Forum Post: Question from an early OWS supporter...
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 5, 2011, 9:18 p.m. EST by Skippy2
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What one thing would unite Conservatives,Liberals,Socialists,Communists,Libertarians,Christians,Jews,Atheists and maybe even Anarchists? Vote out every stinking,low life,money sucking, cheating Professional Politician. No politician should be elected for life. Yet we have congressmen and senators whith DECADES in office.WTF? If the American people rise up and vote these scumbags out several things would happen. First the corrupt Establishment would crap themselves at seeing Americans cross party/ideological lines to get rid of the Chosen Ones. Second, whoever got into office would be afraid we would do it to them, and we would. Let no artifical label stand between you and a truly free America. Lobby your friends,family and neighbors to vote out ALL incumbents in 2012. Would we get rid of one or two good ones? Of course, but they are doing us NO good now, so who cares. Give the system an enema, vote out all incumbents in 2012!
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Thanx stevemiller...Mf Global/Corzine is a perfect example of why we need to get rid of incumbents. We ditch enough of his buddies and he'll have no cover. (oh and I liked your band)
SayNo2GovInc....If voting is rigged system wide we loose. If not we win. It costs us nothing to try. Vote out All incumbents in 2012.
Lawmakers are selected by the oligarchs, NOT elected by the People and it will remain that way so long as we allow it, through playing the 2-party game, and rigged voting is ALLOWED to continue by the People. We have to stop it, they won't. Doing what we can to ensure everyone gets to choose who/what they want would UNITE and drastically increase the numbers that vote. Less than 25% of eligible voters actually vote. Sad, eh?
Anti-incumbent would not do as you asked, "What one thing would unite?"
Voting to simply trade the devil for his twin solves nothing... it keeps us in that 2-party FALSE paradigm, and that is essentially what we've been doing, look around, IT DOES NOT WORK. They system is corrupt because the people IN the system are corrupt... NOT all of them are, just 99%. It's a vicious cycle that must be broken.
I don't think it's rigged system wide, however it is probably rigged throughout federal level, as needed by the oligarchs... they select who can best sell their BS (i.e. Obama). I look at all the things this POTUS has done and I am mystified he has 20% support... are they in a coma? POTUS is a puppet with a lot of power and a major change needed there! No more hope-for-change from that... who is on the other side of Uniparty, Romney? Cain? TPTB will not let Ron get the GOP ticket.
I say, Anti-Uniparty Incorporated and Anti-Globalist'sPuppet... the very few that do work for us need to stay, they need a lot of help and it's up to us to get them that help, if we have to take the job ourselves. A lot of real good People are looking for work (they have great health insurance).
We could have referendums for big things too... but hey, we have to have some say before we can have some say.
We need to focus on common things People want to grow People's strength of UNITY... a vote that counts is a step towards democracy and steps away out of this kleptocracy, IMO.
NO corporate lobbying would be fantastic but I'm not so sure everyone would agree... they should since it is a huge problem... try to see your rep... lobbyists do long before you, and they have presents.
We need to OUT ALL of the puppets that are there AND replace them with The People's choice, in this climate, that's likely a third party or Ind w/o corp $$, not GOP or Dem, at least on federal level. We've got to get off this visa-versa-merry-go-round! To do that, we would need GRASS ROOTS, as in hey, a People's movement... We are smart and we can figure it out, wait, we did already.
I suspect more choices by January deadline but having the candidate is one thing, getting them IN, something else. These cheaters won't just stop cheating... it may be worse than ever with people catching on to the fact Dems are owned too. It is REALLY important to demand paper ballots, preferably with verifiable receipts NOW. A person votes and get a receipt where they can later check to make sure the vote counted as cast... systems like that already exist and cheating around that would easy to catch, very risky, not like now. WE the Voter can check, not Diebold.
We can not wait 4 more years... it should have been done years ago so next year isn't soon enough. The time is NOW, else the time is never. Peace
See testimony of rigged voting-> Rigged USA Elections Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs
Voting is rigged. 99% of Federal Lawmakers represent 1% They are Uniparty Incorporated Anti-incumbent voting, Dem to GOP, visa versa, is only trading evil for evil. Demand paper ballots, verifiable receipts, and a vote that counts is something every person wants, regardless of ideas, unless you're the 1%. Forget what any politician says, watch what they do, very carefully. NO MORE Kleptocrats... they're easy to spot, they're in DC now. OCCUPY to OUT the oligarchs's puppets. Anything is possible when PEOPLE stick together... the oligarch's own the rigged voting, that is a problem for us all. Peace http://saynotocorporateamerica.blogspot.com/
ModestCapitalist...I see your points and grant the you may be correct,but(theres always a "but) If we use the survival instincts of politicians to control them, we can direct our path with a little more certainty. If the new batch isn't towing the line we rise up and give them the boot. It boils down to this, if they want to be in power, they gotta do as we want.
http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
Corzine/MF Global ripped off customer funds.
Money never moves by itself. Its not a dog, a cat, or a kid that decides to move to some other spot. The FBI is supposed to be investigating the missing money. There might be other people involved beside Jon Corzine, but there is no question that Corzine took the money or directed some other employee to move it without notifying the customer whose funds Corzine took. There is no mystery. The FBI is trying to find a way to protect Corzine from prosecution or he would have had cuffs on days ago the minute they knew funds were missing.
When funds are remove from a commodity account that will cause margin calls. The clearing house will be involved the minute there is a margin call. OWS people need to watch this case and let me show them how OWS will use that to get elected. As a candidate I will be posing questions on the forums, blog, websites, to expose the cover up of Jon Corzine because he's part of the privileged who gets to commit crimes.
If we replace our current leaders with human beings, they will sell out just as far as the current bunch. Our leaders were not born sold out. Wall Street executives were not born evil. They were born human. With a natural instinct to gather and store for survival. A natural instinct to care for family and community.
When modern society was formed, we began to sell out our natural instincts. Survival turned into survival with a little more elbow room. Then survival with a little more elbow room and a nice view. ThenHere is a list of the top ten companies that not only paid no taxes but got huge corporate welfare from we the people.
Fast forward a few thousand years. With the industrial revolution came mechanized transportation, air conditioning, and television.
We had become somewhat spoiled. Somewhat motivated. Still relatively down to Earth. Still modest enough to appreciate one another, care for one another, and work towards a common goal.
Along the way, the potential for increased personal wealth became more and more intoxicating. Now, just about everyone wants to be rich. They want it so badly, they are willing to sell out basic morality to attain it. They WILL sell out basic morality if given the opportunity.
How can I be so sure? That's easy. Human nature plus years of corrupt influence plus opportunity.
Mother Nature did not plan for modern society. She did not plan on such corrupt influence. She never intended for any of us to seek or attain extreme personal wealth. We simply can not process the concept without being corrupted by it. Without compromising basic morality.
Extreme wealth is the single greatest corrupt influence of modern society. With every 'zero' on the paycheck, our basic instincts to care for family and community are compromised.
Those of you who still aren't convinced, consider this:
If God himself gave you the power to end poverty, bring about world peace, and take a bonus of $100,000,000 for yourself, would you do it?
If God himself gave you the power to end poverty, bring about world peace, OR take a bonus of $100,000,000 for yourself, which would you choose?
Not only is the greatest concentration of wealth in world history the single greatest underlying cause of economic instability. The very concept of extreme personal wealth is the most corrupt influence in the history of mankind.
I speak the ugly truth.
There will be no reform on Wall Street.
There will be no recovery for the vast majority.
There will be no government "of the people" and "for the people".
Not one of us will live to see it.
See, I thought the government was given its power by the people. So I'm pretty sure the people can take it back. Vote out all incumbents, or at least demand a re-election. Something.