Forum Post: question - are we all registered to vote?
Posted 14 years ago on Oct. 7, 2011, 1:10 a.m. EST by yosteve
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from Newbury, OH
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is someone going around at the rally's and registering everyone to vote.
you can voice your opinion, but the real way to voice your opinion is to vote.
personally I think we should vote out every current member of congress just to get fresh blood. after all, they have not done their jobs and if I didn't do my job at work, I would be fired.
I love all the paid trolls in here encouraging people not to vote. This is why we lose. When Republicans get pissed, they dont sit out a fucking election. They go out and vote, in fucking droves.
Yes, vote for Christ's sake. There are shifty politicians, and there are straight up EVIL politicians. Be strategic and get ppl into office who are 1) more receptive to our message and 2) likely to fucking win.
Google Ron Paul.. He is the only one that will return the power to the people not the government or corporations..
he voted against the bailouts, against the wars.. wants to end the war on drugs.. bring the troops home immediately.. he is not bought by any corporation.. the media ignores him just like this movement because both are dangerous for the 1% controlling everything...
he's been wanting to END THE FED for YEARS...
please google Ron Paul.. don't let Herman Cain (the federal reserve chairman ) win... he's winning so far.. that will be our next president if we dont do something about it... remember to vote.. vote for someone.. whoever you think its the best.. but educate yourselves.. research what their voting record is.. if they respect and follow the constitution and our freedom...
what does Ron Paul think of the protesting?
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/185081-paul-offers-support-for-anti-fed-occupy-wall-street-protestors
yosteve...seems like we are all trying to tell you the same thing...the system is broken. Don't even imagine that you can change anything through the system; learn that first and then move forward. 741776TA: as long as you think "little people" you are meaningless.(just had to put that in). Both of you guys need to think out of the box; the more that do so, the more power we have.
you seem to think that telling someone they are not thinking properly is an actual suggestion. I'll admit to not thinking properly, but post something that actually tries to solve the problem of me and people not thinking properly. think out of the box doesn't suggest a solution for the problem. tell me that the system is broken doesn't fix the system. we're all here to try to fix the system not to just constantly told (and we all agree) that the system is broken.
let me write your next post for your.
yosteve, you just don't get it do you
and then I'll write mine
um, that's not a suggestion to help solve the problem
yosteve, you have to learn how the system is broke
um, what are you suggesting we do
do you not see how that doesn't get us anywhere
you need to learn problem solving and brainstorming. i studied it in college, and you're not doing it.
The computer age and internet has given a voice and helped empowered the little people. When our founding fathers created our constitution, a timely participation in our govt (voting etc) wasn't possible. If they would have had our technology, I'm sure they would have empowered the people and given them a direct voice in our govt's proceedings. We should help our present technology empower the people. In the 21st century citizens could vote online for propositions, legislation,etc. This could give the people the potential to over ride our politicians or enact law when we have a "do nothing" congress. Let the people get things done themselves. Of course there are obstacles to this concept, such as hacking, fraud,computer access for the poor, etc. But nothing is easy.
yeah, election reform should definitely include voting online. every single person I talk to is against voting online (as you can tell I'm for voting :D)
it makes you wonder if online petitions bear any weight in the eyes of the law makers.
so what's the plan to change the system, so I can start re-directing my thoughts (after all I'm here to help). but as someone in management, I always realize there are naysayers but rarely people with ideas that can be executed. What is the next step and I can start brainstorming with that.
Every politician on the ballot is paid off. Once each one finds out they'll be voted out next time, it might get worse(if possible).
so then write in ballot would be the only way with the current system, until we take down the system. we need a short term plan for November elections
srsly keep posting, it'll just prove to those against us, that we're not even intelligent enough to be them at their own medicine in the short term.
most americans vote party lines, just pick red or blue and pull the lever.
so what's the plan to change the system, so I can start re-directing my thoughts (after all I'm here to help). but as someone in management, I always realize there are naysayers but rarely people with ideas that can be executed. you can't naysay without a suggestion, so suggest.
What is the next step and I can start brainstorming with that and i'll go from there.
this would be a great idea if it worked, but our system is broken, we haven't voted the bad guy out ever in the last 50 years, the districts are made so that they can get re-elected forever until they retire. Look up the re-election rate for incumbents, it is always over 90%, doesn't really make sense when the approval rating is 20% or less.
"a nation of sheep leads to a government of wolves"
you guys don't get it.
we're fighting for the cause for change but in the mean time we're not going vote out who's in charge now? I get the long term goals but ridiculing the current leaders doesn't get them out of there. what if every state voted out every congress person in the office. yes it would just be another congress wannabe but it would throw them off their feet.
um, first of all, it's the current system. so if you want change, you have to do it through the system. say every election we vote the next guy out, eventually it causes change. we can demand congress (as we are doing) to change laws (and hopefully they will) we're doing it through the system.
it's important to work towards a goal but use the current tools in the mean time.
starting at the system is corrupt doesn't make sense. the better approach is to use the system against the system.
and in case you 2 haven't forgotten, we're on the same team.
way to be intelligent about protesting
The elections are corrupted by the financial power. We need to take the power back to the people, and that will NEVER happen by electing ANY politicians with the power to make decisions in our name. The people need to participate in every decision in the society and not choose some charming person to do that in our place.
so what's the plan to change the system, so I can start re-directing my thoughts (after all I'm here to help). but as someone in management, I always realize there are naysayers but rarely people with ideas that can be executed. you can't naysay without a suggestion, so suggest.
What is the next step and I can start brainstorming with that and i'll go from there.
However corrupt the elections are I think that we should still vote for the least harmful bastard with a very clear conscience that it will not bring what we demand. But we need a system where people make decisions and not some puppet of the financial system. It is not hard to imagine such a thing. How is the movement being organized and decisions are being made? With assemblies. That is how the decisions need to be made in the society, teachers discuss thoroughly and decide what to do at the schools, communities decide their local affairs, engineers decide what to do in factories, society decides on laws through referendums. I am not claiming that I know exactly all the details, we should always improve our system, but those are the guidelines.
......which is why we need to register everyone to vote so we can have power together, whether it be write in or just plain taking down the most evil one at the top.
As I said I do not think we should walk away from elections but I do not think that this movement should waste any time even talking about elections. This is to change the system not to put another puppet there of any color or class. We need to focus our energy and not be distracted by little changes in this corrupt model of organizing the society. We, the people, will never take control within this system, we need to think how to do it. The only ways I see is with general strikes, people taking charge in their communities, their workplaces, and growing from there. What do you think?
our current list of demands is going to be through congress
we gotta figure out how to take charge
Baby...you have a lot to learn. Just who is gonna replace the person you voted out. The system is corrupt...start there.
so what's the plan to change the system, so I can start re-directing my thoughts (after all I'm here to help). but as someone in management, I always realize there are naysayers but rarely people with ideas that can be executed. you can't naysay without a suggestion, so suggest.
What is the next step and I can start brainstorming with that and i'll go from there.
www.getmoneyout.com
yes, I realize that. we're signing a petition to ask our congressman to put a bill into a law. guess what's that called, it's called working through the system. and if that congressman doesn't do what we when, then we vote them out. that's what I'm saying, we need everyone to register to vote to push law makers into getting money out. no?
No, the point is ...until the system is reformed it doesn't matter who you vote for...they are ALL bought. Here is how a Constitutional Amendment is passed: http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution/. Does not require Federal Legislative process. Truth is though the process whether done through a Federal process or through the states is harder than climbing Mt. Everest. Still, if enough people are on board we create a tipping point, and the dialog will change. Until then, no matter who you vote for...whether Dem or Repub, they are bought. Learn this first. In other words, so vote out the Dem, or vote out the Republican, you will still get another one in their place who is beholden to the money interest. I know your motives are pure here but I tell you, you don't quite understand.
oh btw, it only takes a few thousand dollars to register and get on a ballot. and we can all vote for that person. and that person can be of the people, not some paid politician.
this is why we're having this conversation. this is why it's called brain storming. this is why, telling someone they don't know what they're talking about when they ask a question solves nothing.
we should, however, always vote for the lesser of the two evils. say cheney is running for anything and we all don't vote and that's supposed to help it.
seems like the only other way is to get all the state legislators to change the show, then that should be the focus cause like you said, we're definitely not going to do it through congress.
finally, I'm not saying vote the dem leader versus vote the gop leader. I'm saying vote for the underdog in each party. at the very least, they won't be so polar. you're thinking is correct in that each one at the top is paid. the under dogs aren't as paid so they don't have to puppet like the top dogs who always get elected.
you don't quite understand yourself
hahahaahha! Like it matters.
so what's the plan to change the system, so I can start re-directing my thoughts (after all I'm here to help). but as someone in management, I always realize there are naysayers but rarely people with ideas that can be executed. you can't naysay without a suggestion, so suggest.
What is the next step and I can start brainstorming with that and i'll go from there.
I suggest boycotting any elections until the corporations are not persons and until they do not control our political process anymore.
You're an idiot. This line of thinking is why we lose. When Republicans get pissed, they NEVER sit out an election. They go out and vote, in fucking droves.
Also cause they're old and don't have jobs. Funny story: in poland, the "republicans" there had an election and the young people spread the word to "steal granny's ID card" the day of the election.
well in the presidents case the electoral college will still vote for everyone else (since obviously you guys aren't voting) absolutely nothing will change. so I hope we have a better plan to have a 3rd party or something. election reform is our best bet I guess.
Terrible Idea, this would just promote the status quo, our two party system doesn't work anymore. The electoral college doesn't work anymore, they were created over 200 years ago and now it is time for a change. You can't change a broken system by taking part in it. Right now we have a choice between a republican (Obama) and a conservative, both parties are moving further and further right every year for the last 20 years. We need a new party, a new leader that will fight for the 99%. Can you name one thing that Obama has done to help us out other than compromise his ideals to appease the conservative extremists?