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Forum Post: Prediction Comes True: If the thousands of protesters are not allowed to stay, expect tens of thousands tomorrow.

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 15, 2011, 8:50 p.m. EST by arealpolitik (154)
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I am a sixty year old man and I cannot afford to go all the way to New York. Given this, if these protesters are not allowed to remain there in defiance of ANY court order, I will be getting on a bus.

It is time for America to stand up to this, whether you support OWS or not. This is the right to protest we are taking about, something America was founded on.

I predict, if police and the Major are foolish enough to attempt to disrupt this peaceful protest, they can expect tens of thousands to descend upon their state and the city of new York.

I have always said that we need millions of people to walk on Washington in order to get things done and take back America.

Probably the best way to accomplish this is for the police and the Mayor to once again flagrantly pull another sneak attack at 4am.

There is a powder keg of emotions ready to explode within this movement and it will not be deterred by storm trooper tactics...

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[-] 2 points by Idaltu (662) 13 years ago

Defiance is our only weapon...better to lose standing tall than cowering in the mud.

From a 68 year old USMC Vet. Give them hell arealpolitik and show 'em how its done.

Last Great Act Of Defiance

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[-] 2 points by technoviking (484) 13 years ago

really nice if this happens but my prediction is that people will just stay at home and try to carry on with their lives

[-] 1 points by arealpolitik (154) 13 years ago

The People are represented by those Patriots in the streets...

Those Patriots will spread the message out to every section of the city. When the police show up, they will go somewhere else before police have a chance to find an excuse to arrest.

Spread the word... and stay peaceful.

The People do not need to 'walk' on any bridge. There are thousands of streets leading to these bridges... This is a movement of the people, for the people and cannot be stopped. Disperse and spread the word everywhere...

These Patriots are flooding cities all over this country and come from all political and ethnic backgrounds. Our Patriots believe in what made this country great, and in it's time of need have and will continue to react, even if you choose not:

When others oppose this movement, show them this...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." . "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

THE PEOPLE have this undeniable right, and we are using it...

Our protest is represented in this line...

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

When this government cannot or will not act, the people will.

This is not political... this a Patriots Duty, for The People, by The People.

In the spring this group of Patriots will be organized and will lead a Peoples march on our Capital.

Career politicians and lobbyist, bankers and corporations, take heed... your time is short.

The People refuse to allow your greed and manipulation any longer...

[-] 1 points by arealpolitik (154) 13 years ago

Don't be stupid. Get mad but stay peaceful...

You 'workers' have a job now, but what about next year when a corporation decides they no longer need you.

Or when the next bank decides to create another LAND GRAB.

Your children and their children's future is at stake and these Patriots are trying to do something.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

Sitting in your office being an obedient slave? In your bank owned home acting like everything is okay? When will you learn?

You people that still have jobs should begin a sick-out in support of these Americans who are suffering at the hands of corporations and banks.

Some say what's the big deal, there are only a few thousand... My guess is they are not watching national news, these few thousand are replicated all over the nation.

By this spring millions will march on Washington. This is a grass roots movement, not an organized republican/conservative right-wing political group as is The Tea Party.

They are closing bridges and subways are being closed to prevent more from coming. Do not believe the police are shutting down transportation access to protect the subways. They are doing it to stop more protesters from coming in.

But they will come, nothing can stop this...

The police are shutting down access so more protesters can not get in...

This is a movement of the people, for the people.

Those Patriots flooding cities all over this country come from all political and ethnic backgrounds. They believe in what made this country great, and it it's time of need have and will continue to react, even if you choose not:

When others oppose this movement, show them this...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." . "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

This is not political...

[-] 1 points by arealpolitik (154) 13 years ago

Don't they understand... Moving barriers, sitting in streets, shoving police, it is playing into the hands of those that do not want OWS to succeed...

Remain peaceful at all cost...

Even CNN is reporting that OWS is turning violent.

Don't be stupid. Get mad but stay peaceful...

You 'workers' have a job now, but what about next year when a corporation decides they no longer need you.

Or when the next bank decides to create another LAND GRAB.

Your children and their children's future is at stake and these Patriots are trying to do something.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

Sitting in your office being an obedient slave? In your bank owned home acting like everything is okay? When will you learn?

You people that still have jobs should begin a sick-out in support of these Americans who are suffering at the hands of corporations and banks.

Some say what's the big deal, there are only a few thousand... My guess is they are not watching national news, these few thousand are replicated all over the nation.

By this spring millions will march on Washington. This is a grass roots movement, not an organized republican/conservative right-wing political group as is The Tea Party.

They are closing bridges and subways are being closed to prevent more from coming. Do not believe the police are shutting down transportation access to protect the subways. They are doing it to stop more protesters from coming in.

But they will come, nothing can stop this...

The police are shutting down access so more protesters can not get in...

This is a movement of the people, for the people.

Those Patriots flooding cities all over this country come from all political and ethnic backgrounds. They believe in what made this country great, and it it's time of need have and will continue to react, even if you choose not:

When others oppose this movement, show them this...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." . "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

This is not political...

[-] 1 points by arealpolitik (154) 13 years ago

Stay peaceful... There are those within this movement who's only purpose is to see it fail. If OWS is going to accomplish change, it can only be done through a PEACEFUL movement.

[-] 1 points by elf (13) 13 years ago

When the finest generation was in the midst of the great depression I wonder what they would have done had the politicians said “Get used to it folks this is the new normal and this will be your future: stop whining and realize you are not special – your purpose is to turn the machine and make the people you serve wealthier than any man or woman should ever deserve to be. So pull up your bootstraps – give your life for the wealthy and be grateful for the crumbs.” I think not. We the people we own the land, we own the courts, we own the government, we own our streets, we own the police, we own the mayors – they are products of our collective will for a society that serves not the wealthy and powerful and connected, but a society built for the people by the people and of the people by the work we do and our willingness to share the chance for happiness and help the least among us. Instead of representing us our politicians choose to do battle with us and take of our generosity and use it for their own gain. If this is not a takeover than what is it? They disgrace our constitution and dare to speak words against us as if they have the right to ignore the people they have vowed to serve and then to use the very institutions we provide and pay for against us. We need a boycott, we need to use the right to disband corporations who bribe our government and commit crimes, we need a national strike. Is anyone ready for this? Let’s shut down our government – it’s time to show them who this country belongs to – LET’S SHOW THEM THE 99 PERCENT ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Forget the subways - you'll be cornered think larger - think where will it hit them hardest - NATIONAL STRIKE - NATIONAL BOYCOTTS - NATIONAL OCCUPY OUR COUNTRY IT's OURS AFTERALL!!!! DISBAND MONOPOLY DAY -DEMAND AN END TO CORRUPTION -DEMAND ENFORCEMENT OF THE PEOPLE"S WILL AND THE CONSTITUTTION!!!!! TAKE EMMINENT DOMAIN OF ANY CORPORATION WHO IS SO BIG THEY CAN CAUSE A NATIONAL DOWNFALL OR TAKEOVER OF OUR RESOURCES LIKE MONSANTO AND TERMINATOR SEED AND TAKEOVER OF CROPSOURCES BY PATENTING THEM!!!!!!!! LET's BOYCOTT DOW AND EVERY SUBSIDIARY LET"S VOTE TO DESTROY THEM - WATCH OUT TELECOM YOU ARE NEXT ANYONE WANT TO TAKE THE BROADBAND LINES FOR EMINENT DOMAIN? I SURE THINK THE INTERNET IS THE NEW LIBRARY OF ALEXANDRIA _ COMCAST -WANT TO MESS WITH NET NEUTRALITY ? WE WILL SHOW YOU WHAT YOU GET!!! Reply

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[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 13 years ago

It will come in time, these general strikes and nation wide boycotts, but the movement is at the stage of creeping and crawling. Next is baby steps, then walking, then running.

[-] 0 points by pinker (586) 13 years ago

They are allowed to stay in the park - the just can't have tents. If you allow camping for one group in a park, then you have to allow anyone to camp anywhere in the city. I'm sure plenty of people don't see the problem with that, but as someone who likes to go to my city Parks, I don't want people camping in it. If people are truly committed to this cause, and feel that their presence in that park is necessary, they will do it without tents. Patagonia could donate long down coats perhaps.

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