Forum Post: Possible alternatives
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 14, 2011, 1:29 a.m. EST by pm35
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from Waterbury, CT
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Looking at the immediate future, however, the Occupation faces some uncomfortable truths. One of course is the weather; New York City is not Cairo, and the possibilities of sustaining an effective outdoor 24/7 campaign are more than daunting. The participants in the movement are no doubt already deeply in discussion as to how to address this issue, and they will decide for themselves how far and how long they can go. It may be wise to change strategy according to a specific timetable, rather than turn the occupation into a test of physical endurance.
One possible alternative might by for Occupy to replace its physical locational focus with a more temporal one: to meet, to occupy, only during specific hours or days of the week, perhaps not always at the same location, ,with other locations strategically chosen. Or it might join with other occupations to establish a presence in Washington D.C., where the capital grounds or the mall might offer opportunities.
Another logical possibility might be finding locations that locally can be occupied consistently regardless of weather. That would be an entirely different approach, looking, for instance at Convention centers as spaces where General Assemblies might be convened, or other public halls or meeting places. Perhaps marches to strategic destinations, rather than focus on a single stable place of occupation, might work: marches to the headquarters of specific banks, specific firms, specific institutions, specific agencies: Trump projects, Wal-Mart, Goldman Sachs, the Federal Office Building. might be effective. But those decisions must be made by the participants themselves, and made with the same imagination and resourcefulness that has characterized their actions thus far. Outsiders can be well see themselves as supportive, indeed as admiring, of what Occupy and its participants have so far accomplished, and help them do what they themselves in the end decide to do. They have earned our confidence so far . From an outside supporter
Glad to see you guys are getting kicked out finally. It's a city park, not a campground for unemployed hippies. The park rules (drafted long ago) are clear about prohibited activities. Police are kicking the miscreants out in the morning. Good riddance. No one is above the law.
Sometimes it's just not about "rules". There are bigger issues here.
Well that's your view. The owners of the park disagree. That's the beauty of this country. You can disagree, but you still have to follow the law. You can't just unilaterally say screw the other people and do your own thing.
The law is a little hazy on this whole private-but-public-because-it-was-bribery park thing. I've done a good bit of research. Why do you think OWS wasn't kicked out immediately? It's not as simple as you seem to believe.
Because it's privately owned and the owners, in their discretion, decided to entertain you kids for a bit.
Aren't you cute! Willfully ignorant but cute. Good for a momentary LOL.
Either way, the park is going to be cleared tomorrow. You can LOL now. I'll LOL when the unemployed filth of our society get dragged out in cuffs.
Your moment is over. You're boring me now.
You sound like a miserable human being. I feel sorry for you. G'nite!
I'm sorry I bored you. Your commentary revealed you as such an exciting person. I just couldn't keep up with you.
Calling fellows citizens that raise some real issues with current economic and social policies doesn't do any good. If you disagree with their criticisms then please explain what should be done differently, or why things should stay the same.
No one knows what "their" criticisms are because they are just bitching about everything under the sun (many of which are contradictory).
Name them, show the contradiction, and respond with a solution.
Here's one. Student loans.
What's so complicated about that? You ask for a loan. So you have to pay it back. Stop bitching about it.