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Forum Post: People wake up.... A revolution like this will not change anything !

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 13, 2011, 6:30 a.m. EST by g6g6g6 (27)
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remember the revolution of france in mid 18 centure remember the revolution of the whole arabian countries remember all the revolutions... non-violence revolutions had no results violence revolutions changed the world....

so ur leaders are already peolpe who control the world of media... the internet and everything.... you will keep on these things 100 of years without change

SO TAKE GUNS AND GO DOWN THE STREETS

DONT BE COWARDS !

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[-] 2 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 13 years ago

Guns are used as a last resort against brutal dictators, but practically useless in a democracy, except to defend itself. Remember that many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various demands at the same time, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategic Legal Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do so at:

http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures

Join

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/

if you want to be 1 of 100,000 “support clicks” needed at AmericansElect.org to support a Presidential Candidate – such as anyone you'd like to draft – in support of the above bank-focused platform.

Most importantly, remember that any candidate, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet; it's the STRATEGY (the sequence of steps) that people organize themselves behind, in military internet formation, that's important. Therefore, please read and think critically about the 1st link and join the 2nd link and you'll see and feel exactly what I mean.

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 13 years ago

Your idea is to take on the National Guard and possibly the United States Military with violent force?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 13 years ago

The SECOND we become violent or threatening is when we fail.

[-] 1 points by provojoe (7) from San Jose, CA 13 years ago

MLK, Ghandi.

[-] 1 points by Vooter (441) 13 years ago

Ultimately, I agree. But taking up arms at this point would be a fiasco and completely counterproductive. The American people have been anesthetized by a half century of TV, sugar, and alcohol, and they are in NO condition for an actual fight. Movements like OWS are primarily needed right now to wake the population out of its slumber. A worsening of our current economic depression over the next couple of years--and that's almost certainly where we're headed--will do the rest...

[-] 1 points by g6g6g6 (27) 13 years ago

100000% this is what im talking about !!!

[-] 1 points by RationalReaper (188) 13 years ago

The hell you say!

[-] 1 points by voteforyourself (5) 13 years ago

We have been convinced by the media and the two primary parties that we can only have choice "a" or "b". If we vote third party "c", to send the message that we don't accept "a' or "b", then our vote goes to waste. Like it was said elsewhere on this site, elections are winner-takes-all...

Nobody ever counts the "non-votes" and correlates them as dissatisfaction with the current candidates. We need a clear way of sending a proof positive message that we are dissatisfied with the current candidates/elected officials and the way they operate. If you don't like the candidates on the ballot, what do you do?? Today, many people don't vote at all, because they have no one to vote for that truly represents their interest...

If the 99% is comprised a great deal by people that don't vote because they essentially have no one to vote for, then they need an alternative. They need to be encouraged to write in their own personal name. Then the results of an election will show proof positive that candidates "a", "b" and "c" all got a small percentage of votes, but when the majority of votes cast represent individual voter write-in names, it will illustrate that none of the "a, b, c" candidates were accepted by the voters. No one wins the election...

This should force the candidates "a, b, c" to cater a little more toward the needs of the 99%... right?

[-] 1 points by mrtaylor (17) 13 years ago

What about a National television boycott the week of Thanksgiving? You could cut off political campaigning, hurt corporations, and help the environment all at once. This would send a message as to who's really in control and who really drives the market at the end of the day. You have the power to get this off the ground, consider it.

[-] 1 points by franchisco7 (2) 13 years ago

You are idiotic. If you think standing outside on the street is going to slow down and sort of political campaigning, or hurt corporations your nuts. And tell me please how is standing out in the streets helping the environment. No corporation or politician give a rats ass about a bunch of hippies standing outside with signs. To make a difference in the world of today you have to do more than stand there. Nothing will stop because of this, nothing will slow down because of this and in months time this will all fade away in the rear view and nothing will have changed.

Your welcome

[-] 1 points by mrtaylor (17) 13 years ago

No, I'm talking about not watching TV for a week. If enough people participate it cab physically effect commerce. If your not watching you shut off the politicians voice.

[-] 1 points by g6g6g6 (27) 13 years ago

this is it !!!!! nice one ! lets work on it !!!!

[-] 1 points by mrtaylor (17) 13 years ago

Great, I think it could be meaningful on so many levels. My name is Ken from Philadelphia. My email is Shirttail79@yahoo.com. Where do we start?

[-] 1 points by Downwithcorporategreed (2) from Sparta, NJ 13 years ago

this is a non-violent protest, much like ghandis march in the 1940's and the freedom march in the early years of the 1960's.

[-] 1 points by g6g6g6 (27) 13 years ago

A change will not be made.... without a minimum strike of 24H

[-] 1 points by Vooter (441) 13 years ago

I agree...

[-] 1 points by Downwithcorporategreed (2) from Sparta, NJ 13 years ago

saying that we are cowards is a very foolish thing to say. at least we are actually attempting to make a change.

[-] 1 points by franchisco7 (2) 13 years ago

Change is for hippies......

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 13 years ago

No Sir, the reverse is true. Nonviolent action is more effective, unless the goal is just more unnecessary suffering.

[-] 1 points by g6g6g6 (27) 13 years ago

go for an effective strike it means a 48H strike

[-] 1 points by g6g6g6 (27) 13 years ago

talking about ghandi .... it was long time ago... u r living a fake world... made by ur gvmnt .... and all this ( revolution without violence :P ) will not take u anywhere and BTW a STRIKE of 2H is rubbish !

If u dont want to use Violence.... then go for a trike for 1 to 5 days is the best solution

[-] 1 points by abmebratu (349) from Washington, DC 13 years ago

This ain't no 18th century buddy.....You are centuries late my friend. btw, why do I get the feeling that you are a right winger corporate sabotage infiltrator

[-] 1 points by wavefreak58 (134) 13 years ago

Ghandi might disagree with you.

[-] 1 points by Elysium22 (95) 13 years ago

Disagree Violence solves nothing and loses brilliant young american lives.

[-] 1 points by g6g6g6 (27) 13 years ago

ok so stay like this and enjoy the new world order my friend,,.... all of u will be slaves ... btw ur gvmnt dont care about young lives... they just make some experiments on them in GUANTANAMO !

[-] 1 points by Elysium22 (95) 13 years ago

We can bring change without violence.You go ahead and fight the 1 percent and see how the WTO and the IMF and UN and NATO turns into the new world order so quick you wont even realize martial law is in effect.

[-] 1 points by g6g6g6 (27) 13 years ago

hahaha u will be under NWO and be a slave and chiped ( for what the say security from al-quaeda ) that they made... PEOPLE U R LIVING A LIYYY

[-] 1 points by Elysium22 (95) 13 years ago

The purpose of this movement is to give a voice to true americans the ones who actualy live in this country the 99 percent.Not the 1 percent rulling class that oversees things from private jet windows.If Americans as a people say I Refuse to be enslaved and i refuse to be chipped.No force on earth can tell us otherwise.And real americans will not let the NWO be an influence in our country any longer.

[-] 1 points by g6g6g6 (27) 13 years ago

I love this !! nice one !! hope everyone know this and remember that terrorism was created by the american gvmnt to make people afraid an demand security and being chipped and slaved.... this is what im talking about.... without killing these people they will be back in different faces in different identities .... they will lie and make it seem they are the good guys.... but the future will be the opposite

[-] 1 points by g6g6g6 (27) 13 years ago

do it cuz occupywallst is rubbish and it is not working !!!!!!!! FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[-] 1 points by Elysium22 (95) 13 years ago

Its working dont lose faith .Solidarity we are being noticed.

[-] 1 points by g6g6g6 (27) 13 years ago

make some 24h strikes !!!!!!!!!!!