Forum Post: Paid Trolls ~ PAID Trolls!!
Posted 11 years ago on Oct. 23, 2013, 3:49 a.m. EST by WSmith
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Paid Trolls.... & Not So Paid Zombies
[Ahem, OWS Forum false-flag, both-same, Obama-betrayed, Unicorn-utopia Trolls.]
Posted on October 21, 2013 at 9:00 am by JM Ashby
Some people will adamantly deny that paid comment trolls are a real thing that exists, but employing paid trolls is exactly what Fox News [almost named RepubliCon News] now stands accused of.
According to an NPR reporter, Fox News’ PR staff created at least one hundred fake accounts to troll blogs. via Media Matters
In a chapter focusing on how Fox utilized its notoriously ruthless public relations department in the mid-to-late 00′s, Folkenflik reports that Fox’s PR staffers would “post pro-Fox rants” in the comments sections of “negative and even neutral” blog posts written about the network. According to Folkenflik, the staffers used various tactics to cover their tracks, including setting up wireless broadband connections that “could not be traced back” to the network.
This is not to suggest that most trolls are actually paid to be concerned — they aren’t — but paid trolls do exist and Fox News is not the only organization to employ them. [Ahem, OWS Forum false-flag, both-same, Obama-betrayed, Unicorn-utopia Trolls.]
The sad truth (for them) is that most comment trolls are working for their masters, unwittingly, for free. Suckers.
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GOP Site Plans To Infiltrate Liberal Sites With “Trolls”
By Casey Gane-McCalla | Jul 28, 2011
Right-wing website RedState.com has offered a comprehensive plan for its followers to infiltrate left-wing sites by pretending to be progressives to hurt the Democratic Party.
The list of directions created by the site are below.
First, infiltrate the site. For this, you will have to avoid creating screen names like “GoPalinGo” or “Heartlandredstater.” Also, some websites may actually have you wait a week before you are allowed to comment or blog. Perhaps, they are investigating the e-mail address you give them against whether it is used for a conservative website. Be sure to avoid that tendency; if you use, for example, aol.com screen name for RedState, make sure you use a yahoo e-mail address for Dailykos, or whatever. Once you are there...
The second part of the strategy is to gain their trust. For this, you cannot be too overtly gung-ho conservative in your outlook. Instead, you sort of have to be the voice of a moderate liberal. This will take a lot of acting skill, but it could be done. For example, over at ThinkProgress, they had an article about how the folks in Alabama got what they deserved with the recent spate of tornadoes because their legislators did not believe in global warming. It took all my energies not to reach through the Internet and strangle these kooks, but I responded, “Well, that might be going a little too far…” Along the way, I gained the trust of certain posters on that thread.
The third step is to move the conversation in the direction you desire. By doing this, you can then form the debate in terms you can win. For example, in the above story, although I said they were going too far in their comments, I moved the conversation somewhat by questioning whether the folks in Alabama would accept Federal funds to rebuild their lives. In other words, the subject was changed from a debate on global warming to one of fiscal responsibility. Once there, you can then highjack the thread. In effect, you have changed the subject and tenor or the conversation and the writer of the original post has lost their ability to moderate the conversation and that creates a free-for-all that gets the conversation far off the original mark. [DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR?] Of course, you will be accused of “threadjacking” or, worse (drumrolls please…) being a “troll.” To this I say, of course you are a troll and you should be proud of it. Embrace your status of being a “troll” on the liberal website and carry it through to its logical conclusion. To put it bluntly: Embrace your inner troll. If they realize what is happening and accuse you of being a troll or such, or if they try to block you and your opinions, remind them of their support for the Fairness Doctrine and their reasoning for it- to ensure that both sides have a say- should allow you to have your say. Force them to practice what they preach.
http://newsone.com/1424285/gop-site-plans-to-infiltrate-progressive-with-trolls/
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Who else but an idiot is gonna work against their own best interests = Health/Life.
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I think that it is besides being out of touch or greedy - that it is a failure in education - in how people are brought up. Not looking at the big picture and seeing how all things relate or interact. Physics class - Action & Reaction should be taken out into how society operates.
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Yep - as it deals with how things actually operate - not with how someone would like things to operate.
Does anyone think there are paid tolls on this board???
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OH no, we scared them!!!
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probably right, Zombies!
Yep. I do think so. Why spend so much time trying to get back in after being banned?
Their persistence is hard to understand: they can't be getting paid that much and, for the most part, the topics they troll regard issues, laws or candidates they, their loved ones or society could benefit from. Ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, delusion, blind religious/authoritarian obedience and/or Zombie (Pod People) drive to kill the living (or non-Pod People) are some reasons why. In their free-market view of the world they must always be selling, but no one is buying fascism, so they must always be smearing, misleading, repeating false memes and scrambling open, productive, free and democratic progressive discourse. What I'd like to know, as I've asked many times before, does anybody troll the RW RepubliCon sites??
No, I don't think there are paid trolls on this board. I've been accused of being paid several times, But I'm not. Seems to me a few people use the accusation just to flame posters they don't like.
I wonder why they don't pay you? I think their ripping you off figuring you'd never catch on.
You miss the point. There are no paid trolls on this forum. It's a myth.
You miss the point, you're getting ripped off.
So you gonna pay me?, because no one else will.
Yes, I will pay you with cash, lots of cash.
Go to the nearest gas station and wait for me, I will bring a suitcase of cash.
How do you run into a sock puppet at Shaws?
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What did they say?
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Consolation prize: https://www.dailykos.com/campaigns/543&tag=1022splash1
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I like to see and hear what the trolls and zombies recite.
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Even though I know they have no idea what they are saying, I really enjoy their crazy and twisted logic. And it's fun to hear them defend it.
check out the Fukushima thing I posted
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The Japanese government has a serious lack of revenue. The lost decade thing, and the earthquake/tsunami 1-2 punch.
Zero Nukes!
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When you listen to any one of the Prog-Talk broadcasts ~ Randi, Tom, Bill, Norman, Mike, Stephanie and even Alan, with all their journalist, org., etc. guests ~ you hear many things that never reach MSM. & HC above is actually right this time.
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That would apply to Rush-Beck hate-wing spew.
Japan has been on a QE tear longer than we have.
120 yen for a can of coke.
UR right
little zendoggie yapping. Shhh quiet..bad dog.
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Antenora....Is that a Jimmy Buffett song?
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Just tell me the CD it's on. The song goes something like..".I was sailing down to Antenory, basking in the glory."..something like that. I forget the words
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Does or has anyone here ever trolled on a RW RepubliCon site??
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Funny. Which one did you go on? Builder is looking for one to try.
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Find me one, and I'll give it a go.
Drudge Report, NRA, John Birch Society, American Crossroads, Heritage, Red State or Google insane ass clowns, Tea Party, Republican Party, etc.
Be afraid, but tell us all about it.
Don't forget FLAKESnews.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/27/paid-commenters-flood-internet/
The original "network" of trolls.
Apparently a sponsor of trolls.
And everyone's favorite thing to forget about.
Fox Lies is the News that other countries hear and see about us.
I would not blame the International Community considering tactile strikes against us to end the INSANITY they perceive.
They sure do keep our local trolls ignited.
Are you surprised that they NEVER actually mention one of the most watched news sources in the US?
MSNBC..........they mention every mistake.
NBC, CBS, ABC.............ditto.
CNN.............they watch like a hawk.
It's like FLAKESnews doesn't matter to them...........because they agree with what they say.
Zombies!
There is no reasoning with them.
Zombies??
Hell, at least you could make a Mila Jovovich movie out of 'em, and ejoy watching her slice and dice 'em.
But nope.
They're just flakes.
FLAKESnews: What flakier flakes are made of.
FLAKESsports is even worse..............LOL
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Who more represents your ideals? FOX or MSNBC?
You see, thats how they keep it all going. Keep everyone pointing fingers at the ones they DONT vote for, and give their own a free pass.
That paradigm leads to no one being held accountable, since the only way they determine that is votes.
Its one of the key aspects of a duopoly, keeping everyone pointing fingers.
Perhaps if those who claim to be leftists were a bit louder, we wouldnt be stuck with the Heritage Foundation's health plan for crying out loud.
Voting for public servants is hiring. And everyone is so worried about who their neighbor hired that they dont realize - or want to admit, thats another underlying aspect of whats going on- that the one they DID is burning their house to the ground, robbing them and poisoning their kids food.
Says the guy who still won't follow the money in N. Carolina. Afraid of what he might find out.
like all the rest of the trolls, you refuse to understand "market penetration" and what that actually means.
And you should
running a PR firm and all.
so I guess it's just you lying............again.
It's quite the habit for you.
Just like your need for the soap opera of the banned, rather than relying on your own personal responsibility..
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Perceive? Oh, I get it! bush was real and 0bama is just someone's imagination....oh, if only THAT was true
If only you Head-Fucked RepubliCon Cultists knew what truth was.
You and yours on this forum that declare anyone who isn't all Hopey Changey must be a rightwingnut! LOL. If I didn't believe (or hope) that folks like you were the voice of Occupy, I'd be pretty HOPELESS
Hmm
Again, excuse my ignorance, but I'd like to hear your definition of a troll! By mine, you are a pathetic DEMOCRARTIC one. But, as I spend time one this forum and see that term thrown around, I must admit I am confused
Personally, I like to hear the crazy nonsense that braindead Zombie rightists parrot. It's entertaining watching zealous followers eating their young and their own hands and feet. It's a damn spectacle and learning experience. Not too many agree with me.
But many disguise themselves: "I'm so liberal, but Obama killed my cat, Fluffy."
You're a Troll when you disrupt. And I would also add, when you LIE!!
Why don't you tell me something about you so I can understand the real you?
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Consider the word troll was invented to let cognitive infiltrators be a-holes rather than traitors.
There are some that believe what they are doing, they don't know why, but they believe. Then there are those that lurk in the ad hominium galley to be activated when something that might help in the struggle against tyranny needs to be sabotaged before it's understood.
Cognitive infiltration requires internet forum activists to be very disciplined and accountable so their sincerity is easily discerned. With that the infiltrators are disabled.
"Disciplined and accountable" would work great in a unified organization, we're herding cats here, Voting is still a goddamn 50/50 proposition!
Voting is too easily abused compared to a poll in a forum. For that reason we could select any forum that has that and run a poll on some issues we might think we can agree upon.
If we could find a way to see this forum software produced, the infiltrators and trolls will fade away quick, while our agreement becomes more visible each day.
http://algoxy.com/poly/poll_to_post.html
Love SB, not so sure about you.
All We Are Saying, Is Give VOTE a Chance!!
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What is SB, & why aren't you sure about me?
Post voting here?
Not sure about your post.
In this case, you're both. Amiright?
My site is http://algoxy.com/ and I oppose cognitive infiltrators, they oppose me.
Promoting generalizations and labeling to deceive does not work. Meaning your post exposes you.
No. You exposed yourself with your site.
http://algoxy.com/ows/owsinfiltratingforum.html
http://algoxy.com/poly/cognitive-infil.wikipedia.html
http://algoxy.com/ows/owsforuminfiltrators.html
I disclosed treason here.
http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.disclosure.html
Be more specific and then explain why you think exposing various websites violations of a citizens right to free speech justifies your reply?
A cognitive infiltrator or an individual with an agenda that is unconstitutional would perhaps think that being exposed conducting censorship might be something undesirable to their interests, logically.
Let me make something absolutely clear to you. I don't give a fuck who you think you are. I don't owe you shit. You are a right wing fucknut.
You took down your little piece on your little website about your experimenting with different persona on forums. Trust me on this: there is a special little place in hell for folks like you.
You are a fucking troll.
No, an American suffering censorship.
Be more specific and then explain why you think exposing various websites violations of a citizens right to free speech justifies your reply?
Nothing has been removed from the site.
Dude..............you are a multiple ID right wing troll. You are banned from sites because you post jacked up shit like your bullshit site here: http://truthasaur.com/index.html
under multiple IDs. You are not a victim and you sure did take it down.
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Free speech is abridged so whatever it takes to get past the cognitive infiltration of the secret government is okay. The truthasaur is is speculation based on fact from the worlds media. That you do not like it is very telling.
Nothing has changed here, all links work. What is "it" that you refer to?
http://algoxy.com/ows/owsinfiltratingforum.html
http://algoxy.com/poly/cognitive-infil.wikipedia.html
http://algoxy.com/ows/owsforuminfiltrators.html
There were 3,000 victims whose death would be understood IF I wasn't a victim of free speech abridged.
Said the pot to the kettle. How much do you and your SOCKS get for for trying to obliterate the BOR???
What nitwit numbskullia are you talking about? BOR: borough, Burnt Orange Report, Bor was among the gods that created the universe, Bor- South Sudan? should anyone care?
Socks: that would be you and bensdad, Mideast, ericweiss, and I forget, but I know there are a couple more....
BOR = Bill of Rights. bur why am I not surprised you didn't know that?
Oh go fuck your stupid self!!
Oh, Ouch! For some crazy reason, I bet you think farts are funny (dunno, maybe it's your LIMITED vocabulary??)
http://www.naturalnews.com/042093_internet_trolls_chat_rooms_federal_government.html
Looks like our resident nut job meant to make everyone look unstable and insane just hopped on a thread about trolls, talking about being homicidal.
How ironic.
You just threw an article from Natural News----a Mike Adams website out there AND turned around and called Zen a nut job?
Hahahahahahaha........Mike Adams? Hahahahahahahahahahhahahaha.
Ya....you're a nitwit.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
From Truth Publishing?
Hahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahaha.
That was a good one.
naturalnews, another Alex Jones favorite.
Does more need to be said about the site?
Well, if there is any shortage of material we can go
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence?s=mike+adams
Besides the fact that he was a Y2k fear monger and it's based out of Taiwan and he is known to be full of shit and he's a corporate whore?
Alex Jones says it all. I didn't even touch Arial software.
Your blog link tells the rest of the story, although I doubt even one of his fans around here will notice.
Do think the government ISNT paying trolls?
Theres ample proof on here. How many hours did the three of you- all of whom dont participate at all with any actions, and clearly have a disdain for anything occupy stands for- spend on here today?
But then again, what DOES Occupy stand for. Tough question.
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Really? The establishment has a record on you, and yet the establishment allows you to phone bank for em.
Thats called being an useful idiot. Go to a gym and get some of that pent up anger out.
Or keep trolling this site making us look like deranged, inbred idiots.
Answer this one question: Does your acting like a creep, and attempting to sound all creeped out all the time, does that lead to more or less discussion on here?
Take a look at the comments section, tally up the different users over the course of a week, and report back.
You are a deranged inbred idiot. Hahahahahahahaha. A deranged inbred idiot that posts a bunch of Natural News Mike Adams shit.
You're a hoot.
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It is sad............but he is a worthless piece of shit and can't you just see his dumb ass pounding this shit out on the key board? Fuck, look at how many of these dirtbags post it on the forum.
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I agree.
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You're a fucking two dollar PR whore.... Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
That's rich. Somebody is paying your dumb ass to be here. Hahahahahahahahahahaha You're a right wing libertopian shill.
Ya. That's another good one.
How much has anyone ever offered to pay you for your words? Something tells me two bucks is asking a lot.
Hahahahaha! Another puppet. You're a fucking puppet. A two dollar whore pr right wing fascist puppet. How cool are you? Hahahahahahahaha.
Here's the pulse of what's funny
And here's your finger, far away from the pulse. Say, would you like a chocolate covered pretzel?
You're so predictable.
And stupid.
And .............a two dollar right wing whore. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
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So the link matters more than the content? Is that your point? Are you denying the content? You, who claims everyone is paid?
Or are you here to disrupt as usual?
Politically, you are really not too bright. Thanks for staying away from actions, you would be a real problem creator. Lord knows we dont need anymore of that.
It's like there is no bottom for your stupidity. NONE. Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahaha! You're a riot. A fucking two dollar pr multiple ID cockroach right wing inbred jack off!!!! Hahahahahahaha. A liar and a bullshitter that ..........fucking reads Mike Adams crap. You worthless piece of shit. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Keep insulting. Just stay here and out of anything else.
You have nothing to do with Occupy. You spend way too much time lying.
'Cuz you're a two dollar whore.
Your desperation to cause havoc is quite telling.
Hahahahaha. DUDE........you fucking post conspiracy theory shit. You are a PR two dollar whore.
Now its a conspiracy. Keep going.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/house-stenographer-and-free-masons/
hahahahahahahahaha.
No conspiracy. You're a fucking two dollar pr whore.
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I'm not worried about it. The day you get out of the car and actually do something is the day you stop blabbering all over the internet like an idiot.
Paid trolls, internet tough guys, etc etc etc.
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OH paid troll NO!!!
You're pissed off that you're so stupid they don't pay you!!!
SNAFU!!!