Forum Post: OWS is Being Coopted by WALL ST.
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 2, 2011, 2:18 a.m. EST by Pope
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Please read my blog about how the OWS movement is being coopted by Wall ST. and used to further polarize Americans against one another by the mainstream media. In short George Soros funded and liberal think tank Center for American Progress is taking over media operations for OWS. Read my blog for more. Spread the word to the protesters and send a clear statement to the media. "Cut Back to the Constitution!"
The whole plan is to co-opt direct democracy. Adbusters witnessed the explosion in 97 of a Direct Democracy party in British Columbia. you probably never heard of it in US, it was short lived..something happened to the guy that started it.
Real Direct Democracy...an online voting system...is the thing they do not want you to think abuot, and instead get confounded by what happens in GA
so, to stop them wall street types, and because of the rigged system seen in Ohio 2004, we just finished a full online Direct Democracy system at www.uponlocal.com
Please test it, and use it. There is a full addition for electing OWS leaders...something we don't think they want to happen either....
the leaderless movement..... ya right, we can all see what is behind this....
It's fairly common knowledge that Soros (an evil mofo if there ever was one) helps fund Adbusters and CAP. It's also known that Adbusters was instrumental in the formation of OWS. These are indeed valid concerns. Personally, I don't yet know what to make of it. It is possible that this is indeed part of the NWO plan. What I'm hoping for, though, is that they started something that will grow beyond their original plan and come back to bite them in the ass. There are a lot of pissed off people in the world; for every one of the super-elite there are thousands just waiting to put them in their place. Let's hope that's how it turns out.
I would worry about it. The real revolution has already began. It's time to drop the bomb.
Check out the "osixs plan" and the nuclear option. It's the bomb. Read “Common Sense 3.1” at ( www.revolution2.osixs.org ) and don't stop until you understand the nuclear option.
you people gotta stop looking so closely at this or trying to get an idea of "Who are they going after" "What do they want" the true beauty of this collective movement is not what it will achieve, it's what it has achieved. a presence of the people in the places where things happens, albeit a physical presence but that is slowly changing, one thing they all seem to agree on is GET THE BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS so we can all participate at an equal level. now this is tricky, almost an impossibility because whatever laws they make, money makes things happen.
this movement is proof that the little people can make things happen without moneythe beauty of having no leader is that i didn't join cuz of Adbusters and neither did the THOUSANDS around the world, we joined because we arent scared to say what we think is right when our brothers and sisters will stand beside us and yell just aas loud
you people gotta stop looking so closely at this or trying to get an idea of "Who are they going after" "What do they want" the true beauty of this collective movement is not what it will achieve, it's what it has achieved. a presence of the people in the places where things happens, albeit a physical presence but that is slowly changing, one thing they all seem to agree on is GET THE BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS so we can all participate at an equal level. now this is tricky, almost an impossibility because whatever laws they make, money makes things happen.
this movement is proof that the little people can make things happen without moneythe beauty of having no leader is that i didn't join cuz of Adbusters and neither did the THOUSANDS around the world, we joined because we arent scared to say what we think is right when our brothers and sisters will stand beside us and yell just aas loud
And without a leader you have no one to defend you from being molested and used by the mainstream media to achieve the very agenda you protest.
OWS is a communist movement and for that reason will fail.
Interesting lie. Whom do you hope to deceive?
Message on Marx (you know, Karl?) Mail discussing how OWS protesters need to be steered away from all that anti bank silliness:
Mark, I agree with you completely. In fact just last night I was reading the section in Grieder's book on the Fed where he contrasts the class base and resulting politics of 19th vs. 20th century populists (progressive and reactionary respectively). (See bottom of page 265 for his punchline on this.) That's why I spoke of both left and right wing populists today. The kids today at OWS who are proworker, antiracist, antisexist, anti-imperialist, but who think the solution is ending the Fed, or restoring Glass-Steagall, or breaking up the big banks, or moving our money to credit unions -- isn't left populist a fair term for them? And it's meant not in an elitist or dismissive way, but as a sign of their lack of exposure to basic socialist ideas -- for which we all, of course, share some responsibility.
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.politics.marxism.marxmail
These are not closet communists. They are active communists and they control OWS. That's why OWS got diverted from Wall St and banksters and is being pimped out as a pool of warm bodies for organized labor. It's called bait and switch.
Actually it's called "something you made up".
And your own quotation proves it. What you quoted is a Marxist lamenting that OWS is in fact pursuing the bankers and that (according to the Marxist) OWS suffers from a "lack of exposure to basic socialist ideas".
Really, what are you thinking?
You tell me that the communists are stopping OWS from going after the bankers, and you try to support that by quoting the communists complaining that OWS is going after the bankers?
You complain that "OWS is a communist movement" and then you try to support that by quoting a Marxist complaining that OWS isn't a communist movement?
You tell me that these Marxists "control OWS" when you've just quoted them whinging because they don't even influence the thinking of OWS?
What is going through your head when you do that?
lol
You must have missed the thread on OWS forum moderation - from one of the communists. While you don't like facing the truth that you are being diverted away from Glass-Steagall, ending the Fed, switching to credit unions and breaking up big banks, the self appointed leaders have, in fact, diverted the movement away from those things and into doing the bidding of organized labor. Not that there's anything wrong with organized labor - there are lots of good causes - but OWS was not originally about that, it was the abuses of the financial racket. And, while you protest that you aren't being handled, Pollack reminds: "...their lack of exposure to basic socialist ideas -- for which we all, of course, share some responsibility". They do, indeed, take responsibility and that is evidenced by no more attacking the financial mafia but announcements that you WILL be supporting general strikes and marching with labor. lol, they are slick, I'll give them that. Master manipulators.
Please do not tell me what I am "being diverted away from". I can read my mind. You can not.
As for this:
... what can I say? You seem to be failing basic literacy.
The Marxist says that the Marxists must take the blame for OWS not being Marxists ... and this proves that they are "handling" OWS and that they are "master manipulators"?
Okay, lol, just try advancing the original agenda that Pollack objects to: "...ending the Fed, or restoring Glass-Steagall, or breaking up the big banks, or moving our money to credit unions" and see how far you get.
:popcorn:
This is the agenda that people are still advancing --- as you can see on these forums --- to much acclaim, while the Marxists are, as you have shown, whining because no-one listens to them.
Hey, I'm with you so keep it up. However, I've seen dictates about marching for labor unions but not one iota of support for the aforementioned original cause (talking about the "leadership", here).
Who are the "leadership"? Are they the Marxists who are griping because they have no influence and no-one listens to them?
You are right !
Glass-Steagall, ending the Fed, switching to credit unions and breaking up big banks
Simple demands !!
Vlad Teichberg was unmasked by Daniel Estulin. He works for Wall Street and the elites !
www.danielestulin.com