Forum Post: OWS can make government by the people and for the people
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 4, 2011, 6:53 a.m. EST by alfi
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My original post:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-demand-informed-direct-democracy-online-whos-wit/
We don't even need Demands, just DO IT, we have everything we need to start now!
Latest developments
gawdoftruth speaks the truth (duh): "...the only way to obtain direct democracy is to do the work and operate as if we had it already."
Here are some places to start our work. PEOPLE, let's get to it!
http://www.uponlocal.com/ The most complete online Democracy site I have seen so far, all complete and ready to go. This is up for grabs for OWS members. Please, do the reaseach on it, then TAKE IT!
http://www.law4.org/sede/ open source secure online voting software
http://www.openassembly.org/index.html another open source Democracy software
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Main_Page Wiki - open source information and discussion
The information about the issues is available on some on these sites, mostly you'll have to trust your judgement and use multiple trusted sources on the internet. Soon, I hope to see the open source information libraries
Community referendums,state,and national..working together,let communities decide whats good for their own communities,then state,then national..
Would you have supported direct democracy in America in 2010? You might have lost Social Security, Medicare, had a balanced Budget, and other strongly conservative measures passed. If you still say yes, then go for it, if you cringe at the thought of the other side making dramatic changes in their favor in times of angst on the right, then you bette rethink this nonsense.
Veto powers...direct democracy only has the peoples voice heard as a mandate, the elected can still veto....can cause a new election...but hey..
short answer, yes.
I only wish that for ONCE in the written history of Humanity, the majority REAL well-informed public opinion is brought forth for everyone to see - that's all. I believe if we all knew how most people really feel about the issues we care about most on this planet and in our local communities, and about other people, and basic human rights, we would all instantly understand that collectively, we agree on many core principles which are sorely and obviously lacking in our current world run by the elite. We really can and SHOULD take our planet back from the local community levels all the way up to international decisions between countries and the fair distribution of the world's resources based on fair sovereignty rights for native peoples and a trade system based on respect, not economic slavery, and every other aspect of our world.
For ONCE I want to know what most people REALLY think, not what you think is the majority view, not what I think is the majority view, not what ALL the media displays with all their well-paid actors on the "news" as the public opinion, but the real actual open-sourced voted on publicly debated collective HUMAN general opinion on EVERYTHING starting with the most important issues first, don't you?
If everyone votes the same system we have right now back with the same politicians, then so be it. If they vote for a fascist system, with Nader as our dictator, so be it. If the people say that all naturalized citizens (not US born) are to be shot, I would get shot.
BUT dammit, for ONCE I'd like to know, what do most people think about our country, about our world, about our laws, about our planet and about each other. And if the people take control and choose something worse than what we have now, then I'd like to be satisfied knowing the people as a whole really are that dumb - without real Democracy, we're all just guessing suspicious fearful desperate fools, afraid of each other, and buying into the 1%'s toys, propaganda, ideology every day.
The right is much better at voting lately, so direct democracy would probably benefit them more.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/vote-or-else-this-will-all-be-a-pointless-exercise/