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Forum Post: Our bogus voting system in action: Wisconsin

Posted 12 years ago on June 7, 2012, 1:11 p.m. EST by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY
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Did Walker really beat Barrett?

No automatic and random audit of the opscan results?

Forget that, why not just count the paper ballots.

No independent exit polling?

Official exit polls are "adjusted" before being released?

Can anyone say bogus? Before we, OWS, can achieve any electoral victories, the rotten to the core, abetted by the corpoRAT bought and controlled press, electoral process has to be made transparent and trustworthy. Stalin: 'It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the vote.'

WALKER, MOST OTHER REPUBS REPORTEDLY SURVIVE WISCONSIN RECALL ELECTIONS http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9332

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[-] 2 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 12 years ago

Barrett did have that dead man walking personality.I can't stand Walker but Dems could not have found a bigger corpse to oppose him.

[-] 2 points by JusticeForTrayvon (34) 12 years ago

When my candidate does not win, it means the vote is rigged!

When my candidate wins, it means the people support them!

[-] 0 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 12 years ago

You didn't read my points. If the system is transparent then trustworthiness is inherent and the results would be trusted, no matter what they were. It's called democracy.

[-] 1 points by linker (-241) 12 years ago

So it's bogus why? because you lost lol! you people are pathetic

[-] -1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 12 years ago

You don't understand (or don't wish to). You can't prove your candidate won. We just have their word. That's the whole point.

Anytime public exit polls aren't allowed chicanery is going on. Our electoral system, which is at the root of democracy, is bogus.

[-] 1 points by linker (-241) 12 years ago

ah - so when your candidate loses it's fraud & when they win it's legit. amazing

[-] -1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 12 years ago

Prove Walker won.

[-] 2 points by linker (-241) 12 years ago

prove he lost

[-] -1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 12 years ago

That's just the point numnuts. The process is nontransparent. We only have their word. We have an untrustworthy, bogus electoral system.

If the paper ballots were counted manually, if the machine counters were randomly audited, if independent and public exit polls were allowed then the results would be trustworthy. But then your bosses couldn't get away with their con games and fraud.

[-] -1 points by linker (-241) 12 years ago

and I suppose if your guy won you'd consider it legitimate? What's the difference?

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 12 years ago

Reading comprehension is not your strong point is it? If interested please read and re-read my above posts.

It seems the progressive side wins only when the pre-election polls are overwhelming. The RATpublican side has to be too intimidated to cheat.

For example: The Truth About the 2008 Election - Proof that Obama Won by Much More than 9.5 Million Recorded Votes https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/truth2008election/

Winning by cheating -- the RATpublican way.

Our American democracy = bogus, bogus, bogus

[-] 0 points by linker (-241) 12 years ago

your right - never mind - keep occupying

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 12 years ago

I think we really need to go back to the stone age when it comes to voting; instead of a scribble on a page, or a vote on a 'puter screen, which seems to me to be the most easily manipulated, we must use a system where you toss a measured weight into a receptacle.

The observers simply need to watch the receptacles, then weigh them after the vote.

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 12 years ago

LOL. But what about the privacy of the vote?

[-] 1 points by craigdangit (326) 12 years ago

There would be a stanchion the voter would walk up to drop the vote in. The stanchion is covered, so no one can see which tube the weight rolled down. The tubes are helical and clear, so the observing public can see the weights rolling down, but not which box they dropped in. The public is free to walk around the receptacles and observe that no one is adding anything to them.

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[-] -1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Anything is possible. Are the ballots computerized with no paper trail? Who counts the ballots?

We need a transparent money free election system.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 12 years ago

There is a paper trail, the ballots are scanned in an optical scanner and then saved. However there are no random audits of computer results versus actual paper counts. As I understand it the opscan program has a record of being easy to hack. I don't know which body handles the counting.

[-] 2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Thanks.