Forum Post: Occupy DC protesters arrested After getting Hit by car -- Children used as Traffic Blocks
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 7, 2011, 10:51 p.m. EST by electrictroy
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Three protesters were arrested in DC after they jumped in front of a moving car, including one that was jumping on the hood (according to police). All three were taken to the hospital, and then charged with "blocking traffic from proceeding during a green light".
Also some protesters were captured on camera using their children as human shields. Other uses their kids to block car traffic. (None of this shit ever happened during the last 4 years of rallies in the Tea Par...... nah, never mind.)
VIDEO 1 . http://youtu.be/26fuglmHlxk
VIDEO 2 http://youtu.be/roxvNzyhrp8
VIDEO 3 http://youtu.be/yL5I8otQmU0
so.. the 1% think its ok to run people over. we see what we are up against now dont we.
If we block a road and it keeps other people from using it, then we are violating their rights and the police can take back their rights for them. They may also choose to take back their right to use the road themselves.
Peaceful assembly doesn't mean 'quiet' It means not disturbing the peace. Which we do if we rob other people of their rights. If we take a park and keep the kids from playing in it on the swings, then we are violating their rights and the police can take back their rights that we took. when we blockade a port and close it and keep people from earning their paycheck, we are stealing their rights and the state can come in and take back their rights for them that we took. Im all for doing this, Im in a local camp, but don't think for a second that the state is violating our rights. they are not. They are taking back rights for other people that we took with our occupation. Just to be clear. peaceful assembly does not equal forceful occupation. We are forcefully occupying. Not that we should stop, but we should stop whining about people wont let us break the law. And just do it, just occupy, knowing that we are. Don't rationalize the occupation as lawful. Its not. But we might just might be doing the most moral thing anyone's done in decades.
i dont think blocking a road for less than 10 minutes is prohibiting to use of that road. it is against the law for any car under any circumstance to strike a pedestrian. just pointing out., they are much more eager to inflict physical damage than we are.
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"They may also choose to take back their right to use the road themselves."
By running them over?
Putting yourself in someone's way, think about it. Blocking them in. Keeping them from going anywhere. To keep people from going anywhere? Holding them captive ? People can be in fear for their safety. You are accosting a person in their car. The next thing we might see when OWS blocks a person's car, is they will be attempting to drag them out of it. A real possibility. Yes, it is their right to remove themselves from threat to their safety and why do you think they shouldn't do it through the person who is holding them captive? Im OWS, Im in a local camp. Why is this hard to understand what we are actually doing is disorderly at least, and violent at times?
the back of the car was not blocked in... he could have reversed... other cars even turned around and went another way... this is reckless endangerment and the driver should be charged. Who did the harm here? The driver! Not the protesters.
If you watch the press conference video, it clearly shows that no one threw themselves in front of the car. They were blocking traffic and standing in line on the border of the intersection long before the car arrived... again, like others he could have turned around and not endangered anyone..
We forced him to a choice. Did he make the same choice? Depends on his level of fear for his safety. What we are doing is breaking laws. Only if we don't break any laws, can we bitch about other people who break laws in response to us breaking laws.
It does not matter what they were doing in the street... the act of breaking a law, does not give another person the ability to break (in this case an much worse law) another law. This is absurd.
He had other non harmful ways to react. Many other people faced the same decision he did that night, and chose not to run over protesters.
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By your logic, someone who let's say is loitering or violating a curfew by ten minutes has no complaint if assaulted, robbed or raped. I don't think so...
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Of course revolution is disorderly and even violent at times and I do think OW is a form of incipient revolution. I congratulate you for being active in a camp btw.
Simply it's against the law to run people over with a car. The cops in DC refused to even take a report.
btw what do you think of these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk_n-C5S8g4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zo0Gx0aCWA&feature=related
Circular logic. Its against the law to block someone in their car, and caused the act. I see them, that's why I posted these tips for how to confront people on the street and in their cars and remain non-violent:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/accosting-or-confronting-people-tips-for-non-viole/
The police charged the 3 protesters with attempted suicide (jumping in front of a moving car) and blocking green-light traffic.
They clearly did not attempt suicide or jump in front of the car.
Any evidence for your claim. here is mine....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=204ItdAbyRc&feature=player_embedded
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Nobody jumped in front of any cars.
Cops lie.
S.C.U.M.
And the so called 99% think that using children in their protests think it's ok to use children for their own purpose. I see what we are up against. No surprise considering you left wing filth keep pushing the murder of children.
Nothing new under the sun.
Children "used" in protests?! Birmingham, Alabama 1963.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk_n-C5S8g4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zo0Gx0aCWA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvkp8ghRWIk&feature=player_embedded
mmm, seems like the cop decided to choke the woman. As long as she was being peaceful, then there is no reason why she couldnt bring her children. We do not really know all the circumstances, but it sure is easy to spin isnt it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=204ItdAbyRc&feature=player_embedded
Clearly no one jumped in front of the car, they were already there long before this car arrived. Many other cars turned around, or waited until the protesters moved... the driver decided to recklessly endanger his fellow citizens when others took the reasonable route and turned around or waited until they moved out of the way.
Your TEA PARTY Americans for Prosperity candidate was just outed as a RAPIST you dullard.
And you S.C.U.M. want him to be President.
You tards are in here saying you like him MORE now that you know he is a RAPIST.
Sick
Fucking
S.C.U.M.
very difficult to engage in meaningful discussion with some of our members. We'll win more people, Valerie, if we do less name calling.
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Exploiting children is vile.
Human shields.....Liberals love human shields.
I have no problem with the buming it out as long as I don't have to pay for it. But if they want to jump infront of cars, then suck to be them, I aint stopping because some idiot want to sell me his bull shit
Yeah, the whole World is watching our dumbest citizens team up with Canada's dumbest citizens.
Putting yourself in someone's way, think about it. Blocking them in. Keeping them from going anywhere. To keep people from going anywhere? Holding them captive ? People can be in fear for their safety. You are accosting a person in their car. The next thing we might see when OWS blocks a person's car, is they will be attempting to drag them out of it. A real possibility. Yes, it is their right to remove themselves from threat to their safety and why do you think they shouldn't do it through the person who is holding them captive? Im OWS, Im in a local camp. Why is this hard to understand what we are actually doing is disorderly at least, and violent at times?
Because these guys (falsely) believe that they have the "right" to do whatever they want.
If that ever happens to me, it will be a bad day for them.
last I checked cars can reverse...
you're assuming the driver wasn't at a heightened level of fear for their safety. Lets not pretend we're blameless. ONLY if we don't break any laws, can we bitch about other people who break laws in response to our breaking laws.
http://pastebin.com/qFZ5YMSH
that is the guy apparently. Take the following with a grain of salt:
I remember reading somewhere that this guy has a history of road rage and or anger related crimes.
The protesters broke the law and got ticketed... this guy broke the law, and got away. See the injustice here?
The protesters are blameless for his act of reckless endangerment. It does not matter how fearful you are, you have no right to run someone over or attack them. They were peaceful. He was not backed into a corner, he had the option, just like numerous people that night, to turn around. He chose to endanger lives.
Circular logic again. When the protesters broke the law no one caused them to do that. Cause is a defense. We CAUSED the roadblock that precipitated the guy hitting people with his car. See my post here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/accosting-or-confronting-people-tips-for-non-viole/ on HOW to confront people in cars without breaking their rights. Remember, our rights END where another person's rights begin.
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/car-accident-defenses-contributory-comparative-30148.html
In DC, I can see the argument that the protesters were being negligent in their use of the road because they blocked the guy from using his car... in this case, the driver is not at fault, however it is still morally reprehensible to do what he did.
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lol! : )
Sad but true.
To be fair, DC Police have always given tickets to jaywalkers. I used to live in the area and if you did not cross in the crosswalk on the green then you got a ticket.
Too bad it was caught on video, showing they did indeed jump in front of a moving car. The police charged the 3 protesters with attempted suicide and blocking green-light traffic.