Forum Post: Occupy the Favorite Restaurants of Wall Street Bankers
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 19, 2011, 7:53 p.m. EST by theDaniel
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Bobby Van's Steakhouse and Grill 25 Broad St (near Exchange Place)
SHO Shaun Hergatt 40 Broad St, 2nd fl (near Exchange Pl)
Delmonico's 56 Beaver St (near S William St)
Harry's Steak 97 Pearl St (bet Broad St and Hanover Sq)
Mark Joseph Steakhouse 261 Water St (near Peck Slip)
Brushstroke 30 Hudson St (at Duane St)
Bouley 163 Duane St (near Hudson St)
Scalini Fedeli 165 Duane St (near Hudson St)
You buying?
Way to punish small business owners. You're already screwing over the staff at McDonald's who has to clean up after you trash their bathrooms. Oh wait, you're doing it for them, right? You guys should start bringing in lumber so you can take turns crawling up on a cross every time someone points out that you screw over your alleged 99% on a daily basis, under the guise of "helping".
And...why aren't you helping? is American Idol on tonight, or do you just like being a dull, mindless sheep for a society that doesn't give a fuck whether you live or die?
P.S. Does being a shill for the status quo really benefit you? Unless of course you're a millionaire+... Do you not know you're being fucked, or do you just like it?
How do you know I am not helping? You have no idea what I do with my life and my time away from work. And frankly, I have no interest in sharing it with you. Deflecting acknowledgement that I'm, in fact, right that you are false martyrs screwing over the people you feign to champion doesn't change the fact that you're screwing them over. OWS is all over the map, with no goals, no clear statements, nothing. You can't deny it. Squatting in vacant buildings is illegal, yet you cry when you're evicted by police. You block traffic for people who WANT to work, and call for corporations which employ thousands of people to shut down, yet rent your clothes and shake your fists at the unemployment rates. How are YOU helping?
You're not offering any constructive ideas, we haven't heard any alternative proposals from you; you are not helping. Thanks for re-iterating the very same talking points Faux News has been repeating for the last two months now though.
If I ever watched Fox News, maybe I would have known that and saved you the trouble. Sorry, I'm politically independent and tied to no party. Voted for Obama. Would vote for him again.
Count me in. I love Delmonico's!
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Do #OWSers get discounts at any of them?
Is this where the donated money is going? I though it was suppose to be used to help us defeat the 1%. It's going to pay for lunch for the people who contrl the money?!!!! This is B.S.
What are you talking about? I'm not suggesting we eat at these places.
Great, another way to alienate regular people who are just trying to make a living. What about the servers, cooks, bussers, and so on who work at these places and count on the money to live?
What about all the people who work at the investment banks who aren't part of the 1%, who legitimately are just trying to make a living? That collateral damage is acceptable to you?
So the people who eat at 4 star restaurants are "just trying to make a living"? Ok...Not sure exactly who you're talking about.
I'm talking about the people who work at those restaurants. You said occupy the favorite restaurants of the 1% and gave names and addresses, you said you were not planning to eat at these places. So.... what? Stand outside and prevent business from coming into these restaurants? Or, stand outside yelling about what the customers do for a living while they eat which has nothing to do with the restaurants or those who work there? Real people, part of the 99% you're so bravely fighting for, work at these restaurants and count on their jobs to make a living? Or are you trying to say these people are less important than your "movement?"
You never answered my question.
What about all the people who work at the investment banks who aren't part of the 1%, who legitimately are just trying to make a living? That collateral damage is acceptable to you?
My concern is the restaurant workers. You prevent business from coming to them, real people on the low end of the ladder lose their jobs, period. I have no idea what you are talking about, the people who work at investment banks who aren't part of the 1% as being collateral damage. Aren't you fighting for them too, being as they are not part of the 1%? As far as I know, the star system is supposed to be comprised of food quality, service, atmosphere... I've worked at four star restaurants before that were not expensive and did not cater exclusively to the rich. Is this really the best OWS can do?
So just to sum up your point, the people who work at investment banks who aren't part of the 1% are acceptable collateral damage to you, but not people who work in 4 star restaurants. Gotcha.
No, I said I was unsure what you meant by the people who are not in the 1% working at investment banks being collateral damage and what that has to do with 'occupying' these restaurants.
Ok let's back up. Are you in favor of this movement?
What does it matter? I'm in favor of those who have jobs among the 99% keeping them, especially jobs in the service industry. I am asking you what you are trying to accomplish by this tactic and if you care about the people who work at these restaurants. If you don't plan on eating there and supporting these workers, what are you proposing? Your post comes across as unclear in that regard. And then you bring up the non-1% who work at investment banks as collateral damage and I am asking you what that has to do with occupying these restaurants. I'm questioning the tactic and what you are seeking to accomplish, asking for clarification.
I've worked in many restaurants myself. I never said it was the master plan, just an idea. Your reply raises an interesting question for me though, what is acceptable collateral damage? It's unavoidable, so where do you draw the line?
Honestly, I am not sure anymore. I don't support any action that requires people who put in an honest day's work for an honest day's pay to lose their jobs. I don't support actions that interfere with regular joe's getting to and from work, picking their kids up from school/daycare- give you an example- when my son was at daycare and later preschool in the same facility, their hours were 6-6. If you were late in picking up, it was $1 per minute of lateness. If you hit the 15 minute mark, the police were called and child services became involved. That hurts real people in a very bad way. I want OWS to consider, with every tactic they try, how it will effect the people they claim they are doing all of this for. Some seem to feel the system is broken beyond repair and this is a war, so collateral damage is acceptable. I'm not at that point yet. Some things about OWS I find admirable, others, not so much. This tactic would be something I would not support, nor did I support the proposed blocking of the subway hubs. You need to win over the hearts and minds of the average person if you want this movement to be successful. The more you disrupt their lives, the less likely they are going to be supportive of your message. I think occupying the park has shifted the conversation in this country and that's a good thing because you want people thinking on these topics, income disparity, government corruption, corporations as people- now you need to lead the way and show them what you will do about it besides protesting. I feel that only goes so far, now you need to show the average person the path to change. If you do it in a reasonable way, people will follow. In my opinion, you need to have leaders at this point, you need to choose them carefully. I don't think you will be successful otherwise.
I think that we would be wise to listen to your point of view, because you're totally right about winning hearts and minds. This is a public relations effort as much as anything else, and we need to choose our actions wisely.
Thank you. I think a lot of people can see the truth in these protests, people are smarter than you think, they understand- the deck is stacked. But I don't think Ma and Pa Middle America are ready for a full on revolution. Change doesn't happen overnight, as much as we might like it too- I know I would, I could use some very serious help with my bills right now. I am in support of reasonable action, action that can really bring about change. No matter how much wealth is accumulated at the top, the sheer numbers on the bottom can topple that. I have nothing against people having money, more money than me, a lot more money than me, it's the buying of influence with that wealth that is wrong, I'd like to see that changed. I'm hoping for the best with this movement, I just don't want to see a few bad apples spoil the bunch. :)
Then why post them?
If I posted the address to Lloyd Blankfeins home, would you go inside and have dinner with him and his family?
You posted them as "Occupy wall streets favorite restaurants for lunch" Does this mean the movement approves of these restaurants? If they do why?
My apologies for the semantic misunderstanding. See new title.