Forum Post: Occupy The FED
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 31, 2011, 9:10 p.m. EST by otf
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Wall Street is not nearly as BIG of a problem as The FED
We do need a central bank. How hard is this to understand?
National Credit Union! Only citizens who are natural persons can be owner/members.
NO we don't, we've done fine in the past without one. Who are you anyway, Mr. Rothschild ?
Europe has central banks and they do fine.
Your kidding, right
The bank is corrupt, noone is denying that. Good though to see righties finally admit that the market can fail.
ditto!
Central Banks Are Evil
No they don't. The U.S taxpayer picks up the tab and they are failing as we speak!
The federal reserve HAS BEEN AUDITED! 16 trillion dollar THEFT! BANKER PARTY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-pav_yPFkI&feature=channel_video_title
Alan Grayson: "Which Foreigners Got the Fed's $500,000,000,000?" Bernanke: "I Don't Know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0NYBTkE1yQ
The Fed is corrupt, why we must change it.
and a system that creates money out of thin air with nothing to back it will fail, as it creates perpetual inflation.
Inflation aint the problem. Too much Ron Lawl. Best that you read Dean Baker and Ha-joon chang.
Well, a few 100 Billion went to some of the same Banks that took Bailout money in 2008, BOA got 99.3 Billion and CitiGroup got 99.1 Billion in so called 'Secret Loans' from the FED. So, when those Banks say that they paid back the Bailout money, well... did they? Hell No they didn't.
57% went to the Rothschilds
Yep. And that was only a PARTIAL audit. Imagine what we would find out with a FULL audit. Nice links dutchess. I cannot believe Alan Grayson wasn't re-elected.
Me neither.....
Believe it, if your a whistleblower or if you buck the system, you won't get re-elected.
The "system" is on its way to not getting re-elected!!!
Kucinich and Paul have been re-elected ;) But yes, you are right..
t think the OWS plan it to occupy everything-- globally. soon they won't have enough cops to contain us. then soon they won't have enough national guard to contain us.
They wont be occupying my street or my house so you think wrong.
I hope your right
Its only a symbol, Wall Street...
a symbol, yes, but Occupying Wall Street won't fix the economy, however, abolishing The FED will fix the economy.
I doubt u know what this is all about. What makes u assume abolishing the fed isnt on the to do list?
Still waiting on the 'To Do' list.
I'd like to see the 'to do list'
I don't make false claims to know everything, but if I wanted the country/world to get behind my protest of the FED, I'd call my organization, "Occupy The FED". I'm not hearing or reading anything from OWS about abolishing The FED. Abolishing The FED should be number One on "the to do list".
Solve the problem through enlightened disengagement. Leave the U.S. Dollar system and take back control of your money by adopting the Bitcoin system!
Or, just absolutelty stop paying money to the FED/Rothschilds and their cronies for printing US Dollars
OWS is actually closer to the NY Fed building than it is to Wall Street. So in a sense, we could be said to be "Occupying The Fed", or at least as much as we are "Occupying Wall Street".
Those that want a return to the gold standard need to understand the central banksters own the gold. The idea that gold is the only true currency is a myth. A return to the 'gold is money' ideology would require all debts be paid in gold; all the gold mined since the beginning of time would not be enough to pay all our debts.
Watch this video to understand better the history of the goldsmiths and how the power to create money has succeeded in wiping out entire civilizations: The Secret of Oz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkq2E8mswI
Until this movement realizes the root of the problem, which is the so called Federal Reserve, nothing will change. The power to control the money supply belongs to the government, which should be an extension of the people. This is something our founding fathers understood, and we should return to the standards that made this country great.
Read the links in this thread and understand better that those who stood to abolish the elite's control of the money supply, and as an extension, control governments and politics, are the true heroes (unfortunately, they also ended up dead).
We have a chance to make a real difference. Wars would end, poverty would be stricken, and humanity could finally call this the era of true change for the betterment of all, instead of only a chosen few.
Understand that every facet of your life is a program to control you; how you think (through the media and those that control the educational system), what you believe (through religion), right down to the foods you eat and the drugs that are pushed by the pharmaceutical companies. Energy is another example of how we are squeezed and taught to believe it is finite and the source of it (namely electricity) should be freely accessible. Study Nicholas Testa and learn how we have been controlled and squeezed mercilessly.
To END THE FED would remove the control from the psychopaths and return the power of the government to the people. We would return to our roots of being a sovereign nation, for the people and by the people. This can be begun at the state level, through state chartered banks, in ways that would hurt no one.
The Rothschilds
"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce." — James A. Garfield, President of the United States
"A great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world--no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men." — President Woodrow Wilson
Your right, no way we can go back to a gold standard. But since the FED creates worthless money out of thin air, why can't we and our government do the same, and just pay off our national debt to the Fed, just write them a check or pay them some new worthless money and say "There you go, your paid off" what's the difference? Why should we be paying private bankers like the Rothschilds anything for making "OUR" money ?
John Kennedy went after the fed with Executive Order 11110. http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm
While it might be a bit harder to pull off these days. It still can be done.
Kennedys money was 'Silver Certificates' but we could go something just as worthless as the 'Federal Reserve Notes' that in in circulation now, pay off our Nations debt with them.
Kennedys money was 'Silver Certificates' but we could go something just as worthless as the 'Federal Reserve Notes' that in in circulation now, pay off our Nations debt with them.
Yea other people get it...watch "The secret of Oz" on youtube. It's by Bill Still and it tells a very good history of the FED and how money works. Watch it guys and gals.
http://www.freepatriotism.com
no doubt!
Congress and the White House is not nearly as big of a problem as the Federal Reserve.
As long as Megalacorp. is allowed to contribute gadzillions into the campaign coffers of their candidate of their choice, and said candidate will be obligated to return the favor, then YES The White House and Congress are a Big Problem. Seems like the candidate with the most funds wins, we should change that, huh !
Absolutely.
Who sits on Federal Reserve boards around the country?
Wall Street!
What is the difference between the Fed and Wall Street?
They are BOTH Private and Independent but the Fed goes under the DISGUISE of being Federal!
WHO enacted the Federal Reserve Act?
CONGRESS did!!
WHY??
So Congress could spend ( on whatever program they please) WITHOUT the taxpayer knowing it is being taxed.
So WHERE do we need to Demonstrate?
IN FRONT of the Halls of Congress or your local Rep or Senators office!
You can look up the board members of the Federal Reserve. The Rothschilds (of England) own 57% of our Federal Reserve, I'm pretty sure they don't trade on Wall Street.
I did not say that. I said Wall Street executives ( from Goldman Sachs for example) sit on Federal Reserve boards around the country....
No offense, I wasn't trying to correct you. were on the same side here. I just meant that they are listed.
End the Fed ;)
Folks, please look up the names of the people on the Federal Resrve Board, know who they are, put their names on some signs, let them know that we know who they are, they are not anonymous. Let them know that it is them that should be afraid of us, not us of them. Rout them out, like Andrew Jackson said.!
Ya Congress snuck it in Dec. 23rd between 1:00 and 4:00am when most Senstors were home for the holidays or sleeping. Thanks President Wilson.
No....let me refer to Edward Griffins book 'the Creature from Jekyll Island" a second close look at the Federal Reserve. The most meticulous writer on the subject.
Page 468: The Federal Reserve Act was released from the joint House and Senate conference committee on December 22 1913, just as Congress was preoccupied with deptarture for the Christmas recess and in no mood for debate. It quickly PASSED by a VOTE of 282 to 60 IN THE HOUSE, and 43 to 23 IN THE SENATE. The President signed it into law the next day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In this chart, you will see the historical approximate value of the dollar. In 1913 (inception of the fed) the value was at $3.36, i.e., you could purchase $3.36 worth of goods for your $1. In 2010, the value was set at $ .15! - That's point 15!!! If monetary policy is used to control inflation; I'd say the Fed has done a piss poor job.
http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/Documents/dollar/
It is used to "control" inflation not "stop" inflation. They didn't lie. inflation ought to be illegal because in its current form it is taxation without representation.
You raise a very interesting point, Thank You.
for real!
Keep talking about the Federal Reserve. I am middle aged and I didn't know how corrupt this institution is until just recently. Two weeks ago after reading a story from NPR. I learned that the US was to be debt free by 2012 if things had stayed the way they were but of course they didn't and instead we got tax cuts and war. The document NPR posted was from the Clinton admin. and it discusses alternatives to an economy based on debt. They had a dilemma because The debt would be erased and the Fed reserve banks make money off our US debt.
The US can never be debt free as long as we have a Central Bank. As I have stated many times on here, " The FED orders our Treasury to print the money, then they charge us face value plus interest for it, the Treasury then pays the FED with US Treasury Bonds for the face value and the interest is paid 100% from our Federal Income Tax. Then the private bankers that own the Fed divy up the profit.
Yes, I understood that by reading the document linked to the story I read. It took me two seconds to realize that it's a scheme and we the people are paying for it. Who knew they didn't actually have any reserves? I didn't. I don't think having a central bank is the problem. However, paying interest to banks when you don't really have to is stupid and fractional lending is criminal. What a colossal scam. And I was lied to in school. They told me you borrow money that someone else deposited. Criminals.
It's the greatest scam ever in the history of the world.
When we close our bank accounts the fed will not be friends with the banks any more. They will be forced to be our friends...the voters! The consumers. The unemployed.
It is essential that Everyone learns just who the Rothschilds are and how they have stolen Hundreds of Trillions from America, their goal is world domination, they killed Presidents and Senators and will stop at nothing to get their way. They have created every war on this planet since 1812, and will get their Central Bank in every country on earth soon, only 4 left, and we are doing their dirty work, Please get educated about the Rothschilds and please, please pass the word. ! ! ! ! ! !
The Fed is the epicenter of control !
Simple Demands:
Glass-Steagall, ending the Fed, switching to credit unions and breaking up big banks
We MUST end the FED, but we must, at the same time, stop MegaCorp from contributing gadzillions into candidates campaigns, that would be obligated to return to a Central Bank just like the FED. We must have our own Treasury Dept. print our money and stop paying the Mega rich bankers trillions to do it for us.
I know you mean the federal reserve, but it was created by the federal government, or hidden branches of it. In light of that, occupy the federal government is most accurate. ------How?----
The operating parameters of the federal government are held in the constitution. Our first constitutional right is to have congress to call the states to convene an article 5 convention to amend the constitution when 2/3 of the states legislations have applied for such. Meaning when we occupy our state capitals in peaceful assembly demanding an article5 convention, we are moving towards occupying the position of ultimate authority. When we unify in compelling our legislations to ONLY ratify in our interests, meeting our true needs, which we must know, in an obvious order, all of constitutional intent; our WILL occupies the fed completely.
Created by the Federal Government, but not a Federal Agency by no means., get it ?
Yes I do, and the point is that it can be controlled by its creator and we can control the creator with an article 5 convention.
I Bet MAX KEISER & STACY HERBERT would show up if you invite them!
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Max Keiser #occupys The Grand Social, Dublin Ireland – Nov. 3rd
http://maxkeiser.com/2011/11/01/max-keiser-occupys-the-grand-social-dublin-ireland-nov-3rd/
GIABOZILLA: The Keiser Report Should Occupy Wallstreet
http://bratscal.blogspot.com/2011/10/giabozilla-keiser-report-should-occupy.html
Photo From Original Bed-In Suggests John & Yoko Were Hooked on Keiser Report! http://maxkeiser.com/2011/10/30/photo-from-original-bed-in-suggests-john-yoko-were-hooked-on-keiser-report/
(Keiser Report #204) – Speculators Win Again!
http://maxkeiser.com/2011/11/01/kr204-keiser-report-speculators-win-again/ http://maxkeiser.com/2011/11/01/kr204-keiser-report-speculators-win-again/
The story I read. What If We Paid Off The Debt? The Secret Government Report www.npr.org
NPR? ....NPR?! The perfect example of a waste of government funds.
Who cares about “wall street” the casino!! END THE FED we want debt free money!!
True That
Does the FED have any functions that would need replacing? I do think banks to need to be regulated and even if the FED is doing a shit job of it, would you want to create a different entity to take over the necessary functions?
Yes, the FED has functions that should be replaced, mainly charging us face value plus interest for printed money(even though it's not really money)
Few if any understand the Federal Reserve Banking and people will continue to ignore these ad-hoc calls without a clear example of how it practices counterfeit.
Everyone to whom I explained the method of fractional lending is surprised and understands how it is counterfeit.
So, if you want an example of how to explain it, go here - http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-objective-1-fractional-reserve-lending-is-a-cr
Also, the objective will not be to get rid of the federal reserve banking system, because it is useful to provision available credit, while managing inflation.
The objective is to establish that bankers are not entitled to usury interest on the multiplied money, to cap their net earnings and to disposition the excess from gross earnings to private citizen accounts and not to communist objectives of government.
Community property (communism) is like a public park, where everyone has equal access to its use, whereby social security is a communist program, as is medicare.
Collectivism is like a coop where each individual privately owns a portion of the fraction or whole and may heir, trade, or sell it outright - see privatized social security or http://www.debatepolitics.com/blogs/monk-eye/178-empowering-americans-foundry-public-private-trust.html
Thanks.
Too bad this movement doesn't have more cool heads like you.
Thanks, the OWS participants are doing things that I cannot.
Even though, hopefully our resources will be able to complement each other.
Thomas Jefferson said: "The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our constitution. I am an enemy to all banks, discounting bills or notes for anything but coin. If the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
The United States has functioned quite well in the past during the times that we did not have a Central Bank
The US financial system has also horribly failed several times without a central bank.
Currently, the central bank only retains 6% of all profits from interbank lending, perhaps that should be reduced.
Again, the objective is to preserve the functional aspects of the fractional lending system while rectifying the improprieties of a counterfeit system by limiting the net earnings of bankers and provision the excess to private accounts.
A similar premise exists for excise or sin taxes.
OMG, your soooo far off
Are you able to offer a justification for your comment or is it simply meant to be pointless?
What you said about "The US financial system has also horribly failed several times without a central bank". is just sooo wrong, not true at all.
Look for yourself -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banking_crises
Please read this;
"Why do we need a central bank?"
We don't.
"And what exactly does a central bank do."
It's primary function is to defraud the population for the benefit of the government, and the government's pet favourites, such as the military/industrial complex, the bankers themselves (in exchange for giving government a share of the money stolen), and whoever the government thinks it can bribe for votes. It's literally that corrupt. The reason it can go on under our very noses is because most people don't understand it.
What a central bank does is inflate the supply of money or money substitutes, in other words, it dilutes the existing stock of money by printing more pieces of paper and calling it money. This causes a number of serious negative side-effects.
The first one is that it causes a drop in the value of money. Your money is worth less. That's why the dollar has lost 94 percent of its value since the Federal Reserve was started in 1913. Considering one of the main purposes of the federal reserve is to stabilise prices, we must conclude that it has been a complete failure, compared to the absence of a central bank.
The second negative effect is that inflation is government's main means of funding wars which apart from being supremely immoral, are also extremely destructive of wealth. The USA has become a nation of perpetual war in case you haven't noticed.
The third negative effect is that all the central bank is doing is re-distributing wealth. It's not creating wealth - if it was, we would have found a way to create wealth by stamping pieces of paper. We haven't. All it does is take property from people who own it, and give it entire industries who live at the expense of the productive classes. Basically the central bank enables governments to loot the savings of the entire population without having to bother rifling their pockets to do it.
The fourth negative effect is that the newly printed money creates a bubble in the sector where it enters the economy. That's why there was a bubble in the housing sector - because that's where government was injecting the money. The bubble draws capital away from actual productive activity, such as growing food, or making medicine, and channels it into wasteful activity like making condominiums with gold faucets and five bathrooms. This is because the bubble makes activity appear profitable that, absent the manipulation of the money supply, would be seen to be loss-making (think, for example, investing in real estate during the bubble. The profits made by the speculators and financiers come from skimming the wages of millions of people too poor to own their own house, all courtesy of the central bank).
The fifth negative effect is it distorts the capital structure, in other words, it causes massive dislocation between where people are and where people would be productively employed. The boom collapses into the bust with its bankruptcies, unemployment, homelessness, family breakdown, suicide, hardship, depression and ruined lives - all while the privileged continue slurping at the trough.
The sixth negative effect is moral. The policy of credit expansion corrupts the entire value system of society. It punishes work, savings, individual responsibility and building a future. It rewards debt, consumption, instant grat, speculation and political favouritism.
The declared purpose of the Fed is full employment. In the time since the Fed has been on the job, we have had the two biggest depressions and highest unemployment in the history of the world.
The justifications given for the central bank - that it is necessary for government to "manage" the economy, presupposes that government has a competence to manage the economy in the first place. There is neither evidence nor reason to support this supposition.
The reason economists have the gall to try to justify this institutionalised fraud is because most of them rely, directly or indirectly, on the Federal Reserve or the federal government for their privileged existence. They are like the high priests of old preaching to the masses that Pharaoh can do no wrong even while he and his acolytes live at their expense.
"What Has Government Done to Our Money" by Murrary Rothbard
So then go OCCUPY IT. Jesus christ--talk is CHEAP....
Do you really think 'occupying Wall Street will make anyone repeal the unconstitutional 'Federal Reserve Act? Hell, Presidents have been assassinated for going against the FED. I doubt that a few hundred protesters walking by with signs will scare anyone into changing anything. If any politician did try to get a bill passed to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, the true 'powers that be' would get rid of them, either by killing them or making sure that they lose in their next re-election bid. See what happened to Presidents Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy, also Senators McFadden, Robinson, House and Tower. Look them up
Maybe we could just stop using the banks. And stop fighting their wars.
I was telling someone that the occupy movement was full of conspiracy nuts and they didn't believe me. Mirrors the Tea Party in many ways.
If you think the Rothschilds are a conspiracy, your right, they are. They conspired to steal the wealth of America.
Ummm...the title of your original post was "OCCUPY THE FED"....
Sorry I meant to just say Wall Street, I stand corrected.
GUY FAWKES masks forever
Guy fawkes fought against big government. The majority of these protestors would give the feds all yhe power in the world just for a free ride. Do not try to justify this rabble with the effigy of an honorable man. As this thread states your marching on the wrong place.
read my link before you judge me http://alchemicalreaction.blogspot.com/2011/10/2011-occupy-america-peoples-official.html
I totally don't understand that comment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot_in_popular_culture#Use_of_.22Guy_Fawkes.22_mask_in_anti-establishment_protests
Choose your money
Whaaaaat ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
T w a a a a a t
OK, I prefer my money to actually be worth something.
yes
You want to get corporate $$ out of American politics?
Denounce ALEC! Denounce the Federalist Society! Denounce the behavior of an unelected and unconstitutional Supreme Court!
Watch Thom Hartmann at http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBigPictureRT
No. God bless the fed. This may not seem fashionable to say, but the Fed has been the only arm of government that has done everything it can do to prevent an economic collapse and to jumpstart the economy.
yes that is what the 1% have convinced us-- i just wonder which god is blessing the fed- the one above or below?
Well... The Rothschilds are known to be satanist, and they do own 57% of our FED.
our media is full of disinformation- we can never know what is true and what isn't. the only thing we can know for sure is most of what we are exposed to is lies-- disinformation
Our media or the Rothschilds media? They and their holdings also own and have owned most of the media in the world since before WW2.
that probable disinformation was probably created- to effect someone like you who hates the Jews. its the way they control us - i don't know who the they is. people that hate white people - like some blacks- are subject to disinformation about rich white men-- its all to control our behavior---
Where do you get ""to effect someone like you who hates the Jews"" out of my comments ? ? ? ? The Rothschilds themselves claim to be Askenazian Jews from Khazar, The Rothschilds family originated in an area of Europe between the Black and Caspian Seas, where Georgia is today, The King of Khazar, decided to become a Jew, so everyone in the country also had to convert. I guess we can't even say the word 'jew' without being cosidered an anti-semite.
i am expressing my freedom of speech, you appeared to be one who hates Jews- if i have offended you , i am sorry- as i did not intend to.
but your present emotional reaction , also indicates that you hate Jews. i don't care - what anyone believes other then its interesting to understand one another. --the stronger one reacts to an accusation, the greater probability he is guilty. and why should you care what i think- why should you care what anyone thinks-- they can think anything they want to--as is there right.
you have no right to control anything i think- and i do have the right to say what i believe-
whatever
“It is the 'horse and sparrow' theory of income distribution and its taxation. If you feed a horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.” J. Kenneth Galbraith on trickle-down economics
yes i am familiar, and it has worked very well for a hundred years. the problem is in 2008 we entered the period- called the end of growth- a point of natural resource saturation- where the planet can't supply anymore resources--things like water, oil food- so once that point is reached- no matter how much money you spent, to jump start the world economy- nothing will work.
today we have a battle for resources- it will only get worse- there is no soft landing
Nothing has worked VERY WELL for a hundred years or am I missing something here ?
i am sorry, i am not use to communication. this global economy is based on a growth rate of 5% per year- and as long as growth continues the modified economic fonzi scheme works fantastic- but when growth stops, and can't be stimulated by massive spending- its collapses like the great depression- except this time the depression can never end- natural resource depletion.
That is probably part of why we have continual war. They need to keep feeding the beast.
Exactly.
Oh my, you are so very, very gullable, buying in on all that main stream media bullcrap. Please do a little more research before posting back. You need to find the facts about how the FED makes money regardless of what the economy is doing.
Why don't you explain it to me please?
Puff, I hope you are getting paid well....You sound stupid.
tim G sucks
I think you also mean Bernanke, but if you want to end the Fed as our coiner of money owned by the big banks, think back to the constitution. I have spoken to many movement members that are in agreement that using Article V to amend the constitution is our only recourse. It would start with taking the money out of politics and continue with removing the right of the Fed to print money. There are so many symptoms. Kennedy was the last one to take away the power of the Fed.
read this http://www.usagold.com/federalreserve.html
yes, talking points about the Fed. The Fed and all other abuse of power by our federal government stem from the fact that those who put laws in place are bought and paid for by the politicians. That is what this whole movie is all about in this time of our history. It is not new news as it has been done throughout history. If you take the power of money out of the electoral process, you remove the linchpin that the 1% have to maintain control over the 99. Consider the fact that our congress is acting unconstitutionally by not enforcing Article V and granting the citizens a constitutional convention should be enough to let you know how important this movement is far beyond everything else. As this movement swells, you will see that our chances revolve solely around this provision in our constitution. Anything else would bring our military to start shooting the citizens in protest. Now who here actually believes that military members will do that knowing that they could possibly be shooting their brothers, sisters, parents and children?
They will uphold the constitution, but only of this movement rallies around Article V
explain Article V as you understand it
Article V explains the process for amending the constitution. There are two methods of proposing amendments. One is through congress, but we all know that nothing will go through congress. The other method is through the states. When 2/3 of the states request to congress to convene a convention, delegates are elected and a convention is convened. Congress cannot block any proposed amendments to the constitution. They then go on the ballots in all 50 states for 7 years or until 3/4 of the states ratify them.
Come into this forum. http://articlevconvention.org Check out this set of amendment ideas that I think would be a great start. http://www.articlevmeeting.info/letter.pdf
I am working with some that are eager to make Article V happen for the first time in our history, simply because if it does not happen, we are all going over a cliff.
hey why you guys are at it get rid of the electoral college
Right, that too.
Right on, I will check it out
http://articlevconvention.org sign up for this forum and also hit me up in a private message. I can add you to our Skype group.
I do not use skype and do not want to download it...thanks for asking
Ok, come over to the forum. There will be a lot of great information over there. I hope that it helps you out and hope to share in the fight with you!
Great, finally somebody who wants to do something more than talk...Party X
Not a choice at this point. We have to do it or our country is going over a cliff. See you in the forum!
Your Words "The Fed and all other abuse of power by our federal government stem from the fact that those who put laws in place are bought and paid for by the politicians" Politicians are the ones bought and paid for by the likes of the Rothschilds, Rockerfellers,any many others private bankers and corporations, Hell, you can't get elected without them. Those bankers and corporations buy elections to get the laws they want in place, Many unconstitutional acts have been perpetrated since 1913 and more will come if things don't change.
It is our job as a movement to demand that the constitution be enforced. Article V is absolute and our ultimate right as citizens.
http://articlevmeeting.info/letter.pdf
Keep this in mind and sign up for this forum. http://articlevconvention.org
This specifically talks about article v.
Bernanke is just a Rothschilds puppet, appointed to head the FED by the President, and he really has no other choice in the matter. He HAS to do what they say.
Yes! Even if it is unconstitutional. This movement can change that. Do some research about article v of the constitution. You may find that it is quite surprising the pressure that this movement can generate!
In April, 1963, Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 ended the Fed, He then ordered the Treasury to print 'Silver Certificate Bills' in denominations of Ones and Twos. Fives and Tens were next to be printed before his assassination brought back the 'Federal Reserve Notes' when Johnson revoked Kennedys Exec Order on Air Force One on the flight back to Washington from Dallas after the assassination.
Very true, but we have it in our power to hold those in office accountable through article v of the constitution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution
We need ground support to do this as it is our only means, but it starts by removing the money from the political system.
Ben Franklin said this, At that time, England was throwing into jail those who could not pay their debts. They therefore asked Ben Franklin how he could explain the remarkable prosperity of the New England Colonies. Franklin replied:
“That is simple. In the Colonies, we issue our own paper money. It is called ‘Colonial Scrip.’ We issue it in proper proportion to make the goods and pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power and we have no interest to pay to no one.” They immediately took the necessary steps to have the British Parliament to pass a law that prohibited the Colonies from using their scrip money, and then ordered them to use only the gold and silver money. Franklin added that this was the original cause of the American Revolution – and not the tax on tea nor the Stamp Act, as it has been taught again and again in history books. The financiers always manage to have removed from school books all that can throw light on their own schemes, and damage the glow that protects their power.
Wall street sits on the boards of the Fed around the country. The Fed is just as Private and Independent under the disguise of being Federal. Who passed the Federal Reserve Act??? Congress didi!! Where should people demonstrate??? In front of the Halls of Congress!!!! What Congress put in place, Congress can undo!!!
Ya, Congress passed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913 between the hours of 1:00am and 4:00am. 2 days before Christmas, while many Senators were home on Christmas break or sleeping.
Read Griffins 'Creature from Jekyll Island' a second close look at the Federal Reserve. Congress was in a hurry to go home for Christmas vacation. No excuse!!!!
And this: "The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our constitution. I am an enemy to all banks, discounting bills or notes for anything but coin. If the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
During a visit to Britain in 1763, The Bank of England asked Benjamin Franklin how he would account for the new found prosperity in the colonies. Franklin replied.
"That is simple. In the colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Script. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers.
In this manner, creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one." Benjamin Franklin 1
America had learned that the people's confidence in the currency was all they needed, and they could be free of borrowing debts. That would mean being free of the Bank of England.
In Response the world's most powerful independent bank used its influence on the British parliament to press for the passing of the Currency Act of 1764.
This act made it illegal for the colonies to print their own money, and forced them to pay all future taxes to Britain in silver or gold.
Here is what Franklin said after that.
"In one year, the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed." Benjamin Franklin
"The colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction. The inability of the colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George III and the international bankers was the PRIME reason for the Revolutionary War." Benjamin Franklin's autobiography.
Yeah! The Federal Reserve is the criminal. It's a big joke. Remember the name US Federal Reserve Bank is a misnomer, a deception. First it is not a US entity. It is owned by private entities mostly from Europe and a few here in United States including the Rockefellers. Second it is not Federal since it is not a government owned entity. Reserves? It does not have reserves, it creates or shall I say counterfeit money by creating money out of nothing. Then finally Bank - It is not a BANK!
It was set up by few people behind the scenes with a hidden agenda - To steal our money and to dupe the common people and they succeeded. We the people should abolish it. We should stand up against this evil entity before it is too late.
It's The Rothschilds behind the curtain and their agenda is not so hidden, it's One World Order. In 2000, there were 8 countrys that didn't have a Central Bank(Rothschilds Bank), Now there are only 4 countrys without a Central Bank, Iran, Syria, Cuba and North Korea. We will war with every one of them until the Rothschilds have a Central Bank in every Country on Earth.! ! ! ! ! !
Yea it couldnt possibly be because they are full of people who want to kill us.
Ask yourself this, "Why do they want to kill us" ?
Why dont you ask them if you dont know. They hate americans they hate our way of life they hate that we let women drive cars and choose who they want to marry. You have allowed your critical thinking to be eroded and uour last comment was a liberal talking point. Ty for saving me the trouble and lableing yourself.
Why label ? You missed the point, The Rothschilds get their bank in every country, they have caused every war since 1812. The US is just the tool the Rothschilds use to get what they want.
I do not know why you people label yourselves im just glad you do.
I didn't label anything.
You did its jist harder for you to see so i forgive you.
Please do tell, how is "Why do they want to kill us" ? a liberal stand??????
Quit crying
No crying here, just trying to figure out why your trolling for an arguement ?
Oh you seem to have fine point in there, an eye opener..perhaps that is the reason why the US government is pursuing these countries
Look on the back of a one dollar bill, you'll see the Latin phrase 'Novus Ordo Seclorum' it means 'New World Order'
1833: President Andrew Jackson starts removing the government's deposits from the Rothschild controlled, Second Bank of the United States and instead deposits them into banks directed by democratic bankers. This causes the Rothschilds to panic and so they do what they do best, contract the money supply causing a depression. President Jackson knows what they are up to and later states, "You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning."
You are so correct but Americans are very distracted by flashy things on TV.
That, and our education system is not allowed to teach the true history or the truth of what's really going on.
James Madison said "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance."
Thomas Jefferson also stated, "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
Thomas Jefferson very famously said "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties that standing armies"