Forum Post: Occupy Stockholders Meetings
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 7, 2011, 7:57 p.m. EST by Teacher
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Buy shares in big corporations, go to their meetings and demand to be heard. If you own stock you have a legal right to speak.
This is already done, stockholder meetings are always a riot of colorful characters. If you've never been to one it is definitely worth going.
me2 said it all. colorful characters? what? BS.
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Which corporations? Not all corporations are bad. If we start just firing off at anything that's incorporated, then we don't have a message of repair, we're just throwing bricks at things we're mad at at random. Bank of America and CostCo have very different ways of doing business, for example.
Obviousl you'd have to do some research first. Protesting at a meeting of some random corporation would be silly.
I know, but just in general we need to be sure we're rewarding good behavior as we punish bad.
Why am I telling you this, you're a teacher, lol.
If you own shares, wouldn't you want the stock to perform well? Stocks perform well when corporations make money.
Buying them is your ticket into the meeting. To protest. So you can change the way the corporation does business or at least get your voice heard.
Most of the things OWS would say are anti-business. What makes you think they will let take you seriously?
Stockholders = boss
Fairy tale. Pathetic nonsense.
Nope, a majority of stockholders = boss. There's that pesky democracy thing in action.
But many stockholders do not get to vote their shares, because they are in 401ks or mutual funds. Then the corporation gets to vote them and get the benefit of that power. They, in general, love CEO's to get raises. And raises. And raises. And raises.....
Its still an effective way to protest
As a stock holder, you get 1 vote for every share you own. You don't necessarily have a right to speak at their corporate meeting.
Depending on the policy. BUT it is your ticket inside the building.
Ever here of a MIC CHECK!
Unless your stock is in a mutual fund or a 401k. Then the corporation that holds the stocks votes for their own benefit, not yours.
And you pay them a annual expense fee on top of it. All the more reason for people to get educated and handle their own finances.
The original poster was suggesting buying a share of a company so you can go to the meetings and speak out against the company.
I sometimes find it hard to track a thread all the way back to the beginning. Thanks for the clarification.
Somewhat maybe. Assuiming that you actually have some coherent message beyond that they're bad because they're capitalistic. Also, you do realize that, although it may be new to a bunch of kids, most of what you'd be complaining about really isn't anything new? e.g., CEO pay differentials, environmental and other worker issues, etc.
A better approach would be to occupy a sit-down meeting with some of the larger shareholders and other corporate activists types who have been working similar issues for many years. But that's much too mature of an approach for a bunch of kids who just want to raise hell and play radicals.
Oh, and just because you own a few shares doesn't mean that they can't kick your ass out for being disruptive.
Perhaps. However, there are those who are actually goal oriented and serious
Forget buying stock. occpuy the buildings, let them know we are on to them. hat's the worst that can happen? you get arrested? That's not going to happen. Take over it's your only hope.
The plot for class warfare.
You would get arrested. But they can't shut you up if you own a single share
Yes they can, they can fail to recognize you. You need to storm the share holder meeting. You need to be prepare to give up your own freedom for the cause. Stop being wimps and put it all on the line.
The share you own is your ticket into the building. You can't force your way past security without using violence and that cannot be justified.
Violence is justified when the end justifies the means. Do you want to hold shares in these pig company's? Stop being wimps and stand up for what you believe.
An end that requires unjust means is not a just end.
What are the end?
This is a silly idea. First, you'd need to amass enough shares to have your vote matter. Second, nobody's going to listen to an OWS message at a shareholder meeting. The point there is to make decisions that help shareholders make ROI. Shareholders approve the big pay for CEOs, not the CEOs. If the company performs, shareholders have no issue agreeing to fat stock incentives.
Another dumb OWS idea. United States 663 Canada 82 Germany 45 Russia 40 United Kingdom 10 Australia 6 France 6 India 5 Brazil 3 South Korea 3
They read my blog today. http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
They think its worth reading. Do you?
Corzine/MF Global ripped off customer funds. II
CNBC broadcasters reported that the CME Group is searching for $600,000,000 that vanished from customer segregated accounts that no one except Corzine had the power to rip off unless Corzine specifically involved other people. CNBC broadcasters actually believe that the $600,000,000 might be hiding someplace and might magically reappear from its hiding place. Also CNBC reported that the Obama appointed commissioner of the CFTC, Gary Gensler recused himself (after he spoke with Corzine) from his own job.
This will be the same as the NYC Judge and DA who protected Strauss-Kahn from a trial for raping the black hotel maid. They are going to protect ex NJ governor, ex US Senator, ex Goldman Sachs colleague Corzine from being arrested for his crime. If OWS sitting in the park near Wall Street (as if being blocks away from Wall Street gives them some knowledge) had any idea of why they are protesting, they would be screaming about the Corzine $600,000,000 crime and his privileged status by the FBI.
America has become a nation of dolts in a trance. The most powerful American leaders and their shills reporting on TV are ignorant crooks. Go back and read prior SCREWED AGAIN reporting about the CFTC and CME Group as it concerns the PIMCO fraud. The OWS protest actually believe that sitting and freezing on the ground in the park will magically force a happy ending for the misery of 50,000,000 Americans whose work is now being done by Chinese slaves. The 50,000,000 Americans have been told by the privileged to go back to school and learn a new occupation so they can return to the middle class life they had enjoyed.
copypasta with sauce?
Steve, please give it up. We know you asked OWS to let you come and give a speech. We know they told you no. We know you want to run for Congress. We know it already, man. Give it up.
Awwwww! Why you make fun of Steve?? Pooor Steve. I feel bad for Steve. I've been trying to get the NYCGA to do something too. But it never does! Whats wrong with this picture?!
Sorry but copy & paste self promotion gets under my skin. I'm wearing my scroll down wheel out with this stuff. LOL.
Ditto the fingers (as opposed to the finger lol)
Contact abuse@occupywallst.org about the wall-of-text builders and cut 'n pasters.
I'd up arrow that twice, but the anarchists won't let me.
Twinkle fingers up, Sista!
That's double twinkle fingers up to you my friend! They can't stop the twinkle fingers!!
OWS are weird people who have delusions that a petition will stop the bribes. Sitting in the park will stop the bribes.
There is no end in sight. If there were a small group of rational people who want a realistic strategy that will end the bribes there would be a possibility they would ask their colleagues to adapt to reality. OWS could be a 70% majority if they would choose leaders to win the 2012 election
Fix the bribes, stoop the wars, prosecute Bush for 9/11, and legalize and tax pot. That is the only solution. There can be no other. They want to sulk and whine. To watch this is agonizing. Its a bottomless pit of stupidity and delusions.
I actually agree partially. Anarchy is a little agonizing. Because the solution is so simple. To get the money out of politics. Not so simple to implement. But I'm a Buddy Roemer supporter. That's a little agonizing too, because he can't even get into the debates yet. But, I'm not too worried about it. Maybe that's delusional too. All I know is that when the anarchy gets me down, I just go get a Buddy fix. And I feel better again!
Buddy can't be nominated. That shows you are ignorant about politics. You may be brilliant other things, I don't know. A Buddy fix is irrational.
I know! You're right! Call me Crazy! I'm here too. And so are you. So there ya go! I'll even read your blog.
How come you think Buddy can't be nominated? Aside from the obvious. I realize the RNC machine will not support him. I don't really want them to. Afterall, they trotted out Rick Perry and Herman Cain. Who wants to be part of that bunch anyway?! Embarrassing. But maybe he can be a write in or something. If not, I'm hoping he can at least help to move the debate a little.
Wake up. This ain't no joke. Your thoughts are nonsense. Americans want everything to be a joke.
Joe Paterno proves Americans are creeps read more -- http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
Joe Paterno allowed a kid to be molested. When a kid is being molested you don't report it to a college president, you report it to law enforcement. For law enforcement to now protect Joe Paterno from the same justice they are pursuing with all of Paterno's staff involved in the molesting incident because Paterno won or lost football games proves that the American people are nasty, stupid, and ignorant creeps.
The fact that the American people allow the entire government to be bribed on the record because they call bribes "campaign finance" is glaring proof that Americans are irrational. They laugh at the jokes by SNL, Jon Stewart, and Steven Colbert while they ignore the reality of those jokes.
Casey Anthony alleged being molested by her father but the Florida State Attorney refuses to prosecute George. George Anthony on the witness stand gave evasive answers when he was confronted for molesting Casey but he isn't being prosecuted for perjury either.
The Florida State Attorney knew that their evidence of the duct tape was rearranged by them for their attempt to execute -- murder -- an innocent woman who was the victim of her father's molesting. Only creeps do that. Then the media lied every day to convince their vast audience that Casey murdered Caylee. Only creeps do that.
You say OWS'ers are weird. Maybe you're the one thats weird. You say my thoughts are nonsense. Maybe you're thoughts are nonsense. You complain that people won't listen to you. Maybe that's because you don't listen to them. A conversation is a two way street. But you don't seem to want a conversation. You just want to give your speech without listening to others. What makes you such an expert that we should all just listen to you and follow your thoughts and ideas?
Yesterday I was in the park listening to ridiculous nonsense. You have no idea what I listen to beside the crazy stuff from you and others on this forum. I've been listening to C-span for more the 2 decades learning what the most prominent, powerful people think. They spill their guts out on C-span.
An Informed, Reasoned Solution for America’s Economic Disaster
By Steve Miller
There is certainly some truth to this. And I understand your frustration. And I believe our political system needs to be changed. But I think that getting the money out of it would open the process up so that more independent candidates would have the opportunity to enter. And that getting the money out would lead to opportunities for other parties to form and have better access in the process.
April it BRIBES not money. Bribes are crimes. Money isn't a crime. You are in a trance or you would write BRIBE.
April the BRIBES won't stop until a 3rd party congressional candidate like me is elected. Sending letters to crooks is stupid.
You put the cart before the horse. That can't work.
When people make ridiculous statements to me they insult my intelligence. I'm expected to be courteous to every insult.
Why are you the only person on this forum who bothers to make stupid remarks about what I write? Happy find another victim to harass and badger with nothing. You should hide your stupidity. But you flaunt dumb comments.
To be honest I'm sick of it too. There's one other guy spamming walls of text and I mentioned it to him yesterday as well. Modest capitalist or something.
All these people around the world read my blog today because they appreciate my observations of the criminals who are taking all of you for a nasty ride. Not to mention the slaves they have in China that are forced to work non stop and you American morons keep choosing the same criminals taking bribes and lying. Obama is the #1 liar who takes $38,000 bribes to fix their law.
OWS believes its all legal. OWS is convinced if they sit in the park the crooks in congress will quit their crimes. They aren't going to prosecute themselves OWS fools. Its a bottomless pit of simple stupidity. OWS people are so arrogant that they prefer losing forever while they whine in the park.
Look at how many people from around the world want to know that all the OWS people are irrational, delusional mental cases who protect their abusers like young girls protect their fathers' sexual molestations.
The Florida State Prosecutor has refused responding to the criminal complaint against George Anthony for molesting Casey since she was 8 years old. The media lied every day to convince the entire country that Casey murdered her daughter even though she didn't. The poor woman was conditioned to keep her mouth shut about being the sex slave in her home for George.
These are the real Americans. They are arrogant hypocrites who refuse any evidence or facts that contradict their ridiculous notions.
United States 663 Canada 82 Germany 45 Russia 40 United Kingdom 10 Australia 6 France 6 India 5 Brazil 3 South Korea 3
They read my blog today. http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
They think its worth reading. Do you?
Corzine/MF Global ripped off customer funds. II
CNBC broadcasters reported that the CME Group is searching for $600,000,000 that vanished from customer segregated accounts that no one except Corzine had the power to rip off unless Corzine specifically involved other people. CNBC broadcasters actually believe that the $600,000,000 might be hiding someplace and might magically reappear from its hiding place. Also CNBC reported that the Obama appointed commissioner of the CFTC, Gary Gensler recused himself (after he spoke with Corzine) from his own job.
This will be the same as the NYC Judge and DA who protected Strauss-Kahn from a trial for raping the black hotel maid. They are going to protect ex NJ governor, ex US Senator, ex Goldman Sachs colleague Corzine from being arrested for his crime. If OWS sitting in the park near Wall Street (as if being blocks away from Wall Street gives them some knowledge) had any idea of why they are protesting, they would be screaming about the Corzine $600,000,000 crime and his privileged status by the FBI.
America has become a nation of dolts in a trance. The most powerful American leaders and their shills reporting on TV are ignorant crooks. Go back and read prior SCREWED AGAIN reporting about the CFTC and CME Group as it concerns the PIMCO fraud. The OWS protest actually believe that sitting and freezing on the ground in the park will magically force a happy ending for the misery of 50,000,000 Americans whose work is now being done by Chinese slaves. The 50,000,000 Americans have been told by the privileged to go back to school and learn a new occupation so they can return to the middle class life they had enjoyed.
Wow! An actual response. If you would talk to us once in awhile instead the copy/paste we might find out we actually like you. I thought you were a roboposter.
I will be in the park today at 1 PM. If you people will listen to me instead of Glenn Greenwald who will be speaking for 2 hours we will win the protest.
If you read my blog its way better than Glenn's. He's just hustling books while he lives in Brazil. I live in CT. I want America fixed because I live here.
I will listen to Glenn at 6PM at 60 Wall Street. Maybe I'll get a chance. Your interest is my interest. If you want to fuck yourself you will fuck me too. That's a simple fact. Get it?