Forum Post: Occupy shows up to a "R on P aul" Event
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 21, 2011, 7:21 p.m. EST by freemeplz
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And he is with us...wake up guys the system is screwed and I know it's hard to vote for any of the two parties...but the fastest way to change this is to infiltrate the two party system from within...and that is what P aul does for us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vtlIBsq9EHA
I have been a frequent reader and occasional poster/commenter @ the busiest of all the Ron Lawl supporters' discussion sites for almost four years. AND, I can tell you...
We the "Paulbots" are and always have been the absolute staunchest supporters of your very most important issue. (one vs. 99) Additionally, Dr. Paul himself has been like a "voice in the wilderness" railing AGAINST the banksters every day of his eleven terms in the House of Reps.
ALSO... Unlike the "peace President" we elected in '08, who now has us in about SIX wars instead of the two (completely illegal and immoral ones) the CRIMINALS baby Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld ignited for their bullet & bomb manufacturing buddies... Ron Lawl as Commander in Chief would IMMEDIATELY close down ALL of our 900 (!!) bases in over 130 countries and bring ALL of our troops HOME to protect THIS nation!!
Would that pullback of OFFENSIVE (it ain't defense killing people in faraway lands) spending allow for PLENTY of money to finance the benefits YOU believe We The People have been getting screwed out of?? Think about it.
Lastly, I encourage you all, young & old, to go to RONPAUL2012.com and click on the "issues" tab. Do some reading and see if his ideas and stands on things aren't about 70/80/maybe 90 percent sensible, palatable, and DOABLE.
Godspeed to all of you, and... THANK YOU for your attendance at Dr. Paul's event today :-)
Ron P. is awesome and (I think) the last chance we have to turn this country around. OWS shouldn't alienate themselves from him. We're all fighting the same battle, it's too crucial, and our numbers are too important to afford this infighting.
I understand the OWS protesters want to remain separate from politicians and therefore wouldn't endorse Ron Lawl. I don't expect them to be libertarians, but they shouldn't turn their anger towards him. We'll work on advancing libertarian ideas while they advance their progressive ones, and while I don't agree with their heroes like Alan Grayson or Elizabeth Warren, I respect them. They should show the same respect to us.
I think dissociation with someone based on a label, like politician, is a thinking error. We should associate with everyone that sees that there's a problem and wants to restore this country back to principles of freedom, and economic prosperity. I believe that we accomplish this by returning to the unfettered free market we had that turned a nation recovering from a revolutionary war into the breadbasket of the world. History stands as our witness that freedom to choose has always caused great prosperity.
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Ron Lawl is the answer and has held steady in the polls, yet do you see the media talking about him? No, because he is not the puppet our other presidents have been. watch this video...it will wake you up to the corruption we have been under for decades.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
He raised Rand Paul. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
anti-choice, anti-women, next....
anti-bank bailout(voted), anti-patriot act(voted), ...happens to believe that life begins at conception. I'll make that trade any day.
Anti-women?
wow, that is pretty mean spirited, as a community, to automatically sensor ron9aul's name to make it Ron Lawl. Very disappointed to see that, in a community that prides themselves as being a 99% as if you aren't allowed to use certain words. Sounds like you might be becoming a power of the few who control this.
OWS = Against Freedom of Speech? It makes you think.
i want to name a band Ron Lawl
The OWS guy leading the chant applauded Dr Paul after his response. The RP supporters should not get too riled up. OWS has a lot of people who recognize that Dr Paul was against the bailouts, the drug war and the crony capitalism. It is true that some OWS will join hands with the corrupt elite in attacking Dr. Paul though.
Please post a comment on Obama Perry Paul for President thank you Obama P Paul or OPP as his friends call him is the newest canidate to announce for President
"Anonymous calls on you, Doctor Ron Lawl, to lend your voice to Occupy Wallstreet and other similar Occupy operations already beginning all across the United States. Visit the protesters publicly, Doctor Paul. Show your support for the Revolution, and Anonymous will not forget you. It may be that not all of the Occupy Wallstreet protesters support your bid for the Presidency, however, thus far it has only been the arrests and brutality of the New York City Police Department that have garnered any attention from the Corporate Media. 0407 believes that a public visit from yourself would bring a favorable light on both the protests and your campaign. We do not ask you to be our leader, we need no leader to take back America, but there must be rule of law in the United States or the great experiment in democracy that the Founding Fathers spoke about will come to an end in a sweeping wave of anarchy which will never see an conclusion.
Anonymous knows that the corporate media will try to marginalize you just as they did in 2008. Stick to your guns Texan... If you are elected President, remember this one very simple fact... Anonymous is watching... The Whole World is Watching..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2N3HMhPvUg
R o n Paul is the original OWS...he has been attacking the privately run Central Bank that has created all this artificially low interest rates, malinvestment, inflation, and has facilitated the bailouts for decades. If we are truly the 99% we must not discredit him and his followers for they too are apart of this movement. It doesn't mean supporting him as a candidate, but it means bringing him into the fold and allowing him that respect he deserves. This is not a Liberal or Conservative issue...Wallstreet and the FED is an American issue. One in which we can all rally behind.
Wall ST. is the symptom, the Federal Reserve is the Disease.
he should occupy then
Not everyone can occupy. Someone has to do what HE is doing...and has been doing for the last 30+ years. He has already done much more than any occupier has done.
He does it everyday on the campaign trail! The actual act of "occupying" only does good past a certain point for some. It makes a very strong statement, but some see being more proactive in spreading the message is more helpful to them personally. I have have joined 3 times myself , but I feel I can spread the message more by doing other things too.
The Ron Lawl community feels your pain. We believe in ending fraud, ending a central banking system that supports the already rich, ending a government that provides welfare for the rich and corporations, to give the power back to the people, the states, the communities, to end authoritarianism, and to let the people choose to do what they want to do.
We support you and hope you will join the Revolution Ron Lawl has been lucky enough to be a part of.
"The Wall Street Manifesto"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8GFarsNtJQ
I wish the OWS would show up here too! The KTC welcomes you with open arms!
http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/
The Revolution starts here!
He's been doing it for 35 fucking years and has changed absolutely nothing.
considering he is like 1 out of like 200 and something in Congress AND in the minority when it comes to the constitution of course he can't change anything at his level.
BUT look at his voting record...sometimes I was the whole congress vs. him
He tries very hard..and with the average American being a zombie for the last 30 plus years it is pretty fucking hard.
His voting record is a fucking joke. He even votes against shit he says he's for. Some of the few bills he's voted for were shit like DOMA.
huh? Votes against what he says? We are talking about the same Dr. Paul right? DOMA is a dumb issue. It isn't the governments job to tell people who they can marry. That is between two adults and their god.
So why did he vote for a law that allows government to tell people who they can marry.
Ron.Paul Voted AGAINST the 2006 Marriage Protection Act (H.J. Res. 88), which proposed an amendment to the Constitution that would ban gay marriage.
Which is obviously BS. ;)
He voted against the patriot act, and against the bank bailout(far more important than DOMA). That, right there puts his voting record way ahead of many.
he's just ahead of the curve.. now back him. he's the way in
http://occupywallst.org/forum/ron-pauls-connections-to-gary-north-christian-reco/
Free market, unregulated capitalism. More job killing free trade agreements. That's what the RP agenda would bring. Sorry folks, we already have enough of that. He's right in line with the Koch bros.
The Koch bros. are a bogeyman, like George Soros. Even were he friends with the Koch bros. (he isn't), you should be more concerned about the rest of the 1% who the media doesn't talk about and vilify.
The Koch brothers don't like him at all. Neither they - nor any of their groups - have donated a single penny to him.
Gmartine is right on this one - we haven't had free markets in a long darn time....just cronyism.
We haven't had free markets. The federal reserve is the biggest enemy of free markets. We had crony capitalism. Free trade means you can buy cheap chinese products or local products and support your local economy. That is what freedom is.
Neither RP or his deluded followers understand the Fed, fiat money, or the hazards of the gold standard. Freedom could mean you have the freedom to own slaves. I'm not for that either.
your freedom not to be a slave would prohibit anyone from enslaving you.
"Neither RP or his deluded followers understand the Fed, fiat money, or the hazards of the gold standard. Freedom could mean you have the freedom to own slaves. I'm not for that either." - notaneoliberal
Do you not understand how stupid your comment is? Liberty for all means all races. This is an automatic ban on slavery. Read Lysander Spooner before you go calling people slavery supporters. And saying RP supporters don't understand Fed, Fiat Money or a gold standard is just completely ignorant considering we have been attacking these issues for years.
The 13th Amendment already takes care of the slave issue.
He's whiny, get nothing done republican, that only actually backs his own and other republican bills.
Seriously? Ron PauI is NOT AN ENEMY to the 99% wtf are they doing wow. He has been taking on the ridicule and mal treatment BY HIMSELF for over 30 years, before the 99% noticed a thing (yes all of us).
Its like malcom x said "If you’re not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing."
Don't let the controllers win by allowing yourself to be mis informed, the internet has plenty of resources to educate yourself, this is no excuse. ... Ron PauI 2012.
and btw, most ppl would call the OWS movement nasty things too, so I don't think we want call him whiny, its not doing us any good...
That looks like a great campaign ad.
You like to think he's the only one that's ever said those things.
There are others and they don't back all the bad things Paul does, and says.
Economically he's another noeliberal shill.
Check out another way. http://pragcap.com/resources/understanding-modern-monetary-system
Other than that and being anti-war, most of his policies have been ripped to shreds here on the forum. So I won't waste your time and mine repeating them again.
The are others that don't carry the republican baggage that he does, yet you never talk about them.
Why is that?
I could give 2 shits about republican or democrat. I care about the truth. Attack the problem and not the symptom. Don't make assumptions about me buddy.
I asked a simple question, buddy. If you don't answer it, I can do nothing but assume. What and whether I assume is up to you.
As the famous Terrance and Phillip from South Park would say: "I'm not your Buddy, guy!"
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How about voting against the bank bailout, and against the patriot act(when it was popular)? Try ripping that to shreds. And it's not about republicrats & demoplicans. He's the one individual in the current field who is not controlled by corporate and bankster rule. As a Pro-Occupy person, that should matter to you.
We are here to discuss Wall ST, montary policy, the Fed and the Banks...his other issues are not pertinent to this discussion here or towards this movement. We are not asking for the whole movement to jump behind one candidate. This is about ideas!
I'm not out of my mind.
I will not vote for another republican as long as I breath.
Hopefully that means you'll vote 3rd party.
I don't talk about them because they don't and won't get elected...I voted 3rd party more times than I can remember, but they CAN'T get elected in this system we have right now.
As much as we need to change the system we won't be able to fast enough to stop the economic collapse that is unfolding before us right now. Dr. Paul is the only way we can get someone close enough to slow the crazyness down while we figure out how to get someone besides a dem or a repub elected in the rigged system.
Infiltrate from within
I hate to break it to you, but Paul IS a republican.
He's running in the republican party because the major parties are where you can get your voice heard. But he's much more of an independent. The republican equivilant of Dennis Kucinich.
....and what type of dogmatic impression of being a "Republican" has been imprinted on you that you are so readily to dismiss a man because of his political party alignment? Having a label like Republican or Democrat means NOTHING in this political environment. We have fascists and control freaks that have used the Republican Party and Communists and Socialists that have used the Democrat party. These titles are masks at best. Voting records are what counts...that and standing with the Constitution.
"Imprinted"?
I've watched republicans screw things up for 20 out of the last 30 years.
That's not an imprint, it's experience.
In fact a republican just raised my taxes 100%.
They do lie more than the Dems.
That stuff about fascist, control freaks, communists and socialists. Is off base. It's the neoliberalism.
no, really, i didn't know that....
cmon man....
of course he is..didn't you read the second paragraph. Anyway republican has two meanings...these new "20-30 years" of republicans or a real republican.
Libertarian leaning...no harm to others...freedom to choose....no force...yea the basics of life....how hard is that?????????
Has he ever sponsored or voted on a successful bill that wasn't republican in nature?
HELL YES my friend....he Supported a bill too legalize hemp and marijuana Supports ending ALL these WARS, voted against them all Voted against the Patriot Act and FISA bill. supported the right for you to define marriage as you see fit voted against the Bailouts
Wrong answer.
Has he ever sponsored or voted on a successful bill that wasn't republican in nature?
Who cares? That's not the point. Republicans and Democrats are as different as my right and left arm...but I control them both. And the same sources control both of those parties.
End the wars? repeal the patriot act? Vote against Iraq war? you know all of the good things that the people want, but no one else in congress seems to care about?
You don't get it do you...everything he does or votes with will not pass...he is not with the congress...he stands almost alone with no lobbyists...actually there to do what he says he would do...follow the constitution and the rule of law.
Congress does the opposite of what people want...so Paul is always going to be on the opposite side of what Congress does...seriously there is no fight here.
We have been pushing for Ron Lawl for decades...we know what is going on.
".we know what is going on."
Yeah, right. that's what scares me most about the Paul minions.
If you know what's going on. Answer the question?
I voted for him in '88', so I know a bit too.