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Forum Post: Occupy LA's legacy: Stench, trash, property damage

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 30, 2011, 8:07 p.m. EST by DoodlesWeaver (64)
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"The reek of urine and unwashed bodies hung over the former Occupy Los Angeles camp Wednesday as masked sanitation workers hauled away 25 tons of debris from the barren lawns around City Hall.

Collapsed and overturned tents, scattered bedding, paperback books, bicycles, shoes, food and other belongings were tossed by shovel or pitchfork into trash trucks after a small army of police peacefully swarmed the nearly two-month encampment. City officials who had tolerated the economic protest for weeks had finally declared the area a health and safety hazard earlier in the week.

Crews set up concrete barriers and chain-link fencing around the sea of debris and dirt that used to be grass. Left behind was a sea of belongings. Frontloaders scooped up larger items, including wooden cabinets.

"It's so contaminated, it doesn't even make sense to sort it out," said Jose "Pepe" Garcia, 49, superintendent of the city's north central sanitation district.

A dozen city sanitation workers were suited up in white coveralls, gloves and boots after reports that there might be a lice or flea infestation, Garcia said.

Sanitation workers had been hauling away as much as 2 tons of trash a day from the site, but hygiene remained a problem despite rows of portable toilets, he said. Plastic gallon bottles of urine and smaller bottles were set aside for special disposal.

"They had no means to wash up. They had no means to shower," Garcia said.

"You've got bottles of urine, that's the biggest hazard in there."

Crews have cleaned up homeless encampments with similar issues before but never on the scale of the Occupy LA bivouac.

"I've never seen anything like this," said Elton Atkins, a city refuse collection supervisor.

"Pretty disgusting," said Pamela Thompson, a legal analyst who works nearby and saw the camp almost daily.

"This should have been taken care of a long time ago," she said.

However, one former occupant blamed the police raid for trashing the tent city.

Samantha Schrepel, 27, stood by a stroller containing her 5-month-old son, Kenny, on the sidewalk in front of the fenced-off lawn and chatted with police officers guarding the site.

Schrepel had been staying in the tent city but was elsewhere when it was raided. Her tent, warm blankets and other items were being trashed as she watched.

"It's a mess," she said. "When I was there, my area was always clean. We had people who swept the sidewalks. I think everything got crushed in the chaos."

Schrepel was philosophical about her loss.

"I think it's teaching us that these are just (material) things," she said.

The encampment turned the once-lush City Hall lawns into patches of dirt strewn with debris. Crude graffiti was scrawled on some City Hall walls. A treehouse constructed of wooden pallets lashed to four palm trees stood empty. It was decorated with U.S. flags, a pinata, various secondhand objects and signs that read "free hugs" and "we are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams."

Occupy LA protesters destroyed the grass, damaged trees and sprayed graffiti on statues before the statues were boarded up, said Leo Martinez, a division manager with the city sanitation department.

"I understand the political statement they're trying to make. But I don't like the way they went about getting the message across," he said.

"Look at all the damage they caused," Martinez said as he surveyed the heaps of debris.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_19439433

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Occupy LA had plenty of Port-A-Potties, yet these slobs were storing human waste for some reason.

This movement attracts the worst kinds of people.

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[-] 2 points by leavethecities (318) 13 years ago

Calling someone a slob doesnt help peoples hygeine, maybe you should go to an occupy event and bring an potable shower and help sanitation and help clean things up. Then you could help the people in the occupy movement be cleaner and maybe they might listen to some of your ideas.

[-] 1 points by HeavySigh (227) 13 years ago

These people are protesting for the 99% and know what's best for the country, supposedly, and they can't even keep themselves clean? No thank you.

[-] 1 points by leavethecities (318) 13 years ago

Ok, revolution is a dirty job comrade

[-] 1 points by HeavySigh (227) 13 years ago

Please tell me that isn't a serious post/response.

[-] 1 points by leavethecities (318) 13 years ago

Well I'll just keep you guessing it is good for you and when you guess wrong you will feel stupid.

[-] 1 points by HeavySigh (227) 13 years ago

Murder grammar some more while you try to appear witty and smart. I honestly am not surprised by the OWS people anymore.

[-] 1 points by leavethecities (318) 13 years ago

Typing on ipad with one finger and lazy, but i well try to be less witty so you can seem to be more... is that bad enough

[-] 2 points by JenLynn (692) 13 years ago

Living in a park doesn't do much for anything, there are all these people wanting change but all they do is talk about it. Isn't anyone old enough to run for congress and actually start to do something? Great to have demonstrations, but unless you got Harry Potter in one of the Occupy cities, somebody is going to actually do some political work. The system isn't going to change itself.

[-] 1 points by JenLynn (692) 13 years ago

So now it's up to the big O. We'll see if he vetoes it like he said he would.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 13 years ago

Even if he vetoes it; be vigilante for something else to come in it's place. They're moving on us, and I don't thnk they're playing.

[-] 1 points by JenLynn (692) 13 years ago

Being anti-terrorist is the big thing right now, scary but we can change it. Occupy should organize and get some people to run for congress and make being anti-greed the next hot thing to be for a politician. WE have to stop sitting around and just popping out ideas, do something that shows we will vote, that's what scares an incumbent, votes.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 13 years ago

There's a large number of Americans who will continuously return these incumbents to office. What do we do with them ? Also I've read the diebold voting machines are easily manipulated and can throw an election. I regret that so few want to use economic boycotts...impacting their bottom line also scares them.

[-] 1 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

One thing is certain, if we don't even try to vote new people in, then nothing will change. Boycotts may only give us some changes or at least the illusion of change. All you can do is keep working on a number of fronts and try to educate people.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 12 years ago

Totally true Jen.

[-] 1 points by brettdecker (68) 13 years ago

Actually,OWS will be the recipient of these new detainment rules.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 13 years ago

Connect the dots:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-invades-roads-highways-with-vipr-checkpoints.html

Think it's only for OWS...fooled again.

Camp FEMA - MIAC Report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBcI05t5tA&feature=related

Citizens Urged To Spy On Domestic White Terrorist Threat In DHS Anti-Terrorism Propaganda Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22LKp4Rv6m0

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 13 years ago

Check the MIAC report...constutionalists, libertarians, activists, gun owners, protestors, returning veterans, and scores more. It's kinda like how Americans thought the TSA surveillance was only for brown turban wearing people....fooled you. Lots of us still don't get it, because it could never happen here in America...well it's happening.

[-] 1 points by usernameah (36) 13 years ago

Hey, it's a PUBLIC park. It is the responsibility of the CITY to provide public restrooms. Or does one have to spend $5 on a cup of coffee or $50 at a grocery store just to be able to use their restrooms? How about a restroom for CITIZENS instead of CONSUMERS?

[-] 1 points by CrossingtheDivided (357) from Santa Ysabel, CA 13 years ago

Jose "Pepe" Garcia: "They had no means to wash up. They had no means to shower," Garcia said.

"You've got bottles of urine, that's the biggest hazard in there."


Technically speaking, old bottles of urine may smell bad, but being as it is the most sterile fluid in the human body, it could not "contaminate" anything. No harm could come to poor, ignorant Pepe, or anyone else, if they choose to drink it.

I feel bad for the City workers who are tasked to clean up the mess the police made. And they have no idea who "they" are, who they are made to scapegoat for all the blame.

At least you didn't edit out the one true voice in the article (Samantha Schrepel's) . . . .

[-] 1 points by FrankieJ (86) 13 years ago

Sorry, that's not true. It may be relatively free of any contaminants when it enters the bladder but it's not at all necessarily sterile once there and as it transits and exits the body. Hepatitis among other pathogens can be transmitted via urine as well as viruses. Also blood-borne illnesses if there is blood associated with it.

[-] 1 points by CrossingtheDivided (357) from Santa Ysabel, CA 13 years ago

So, what you should have said in the first sentence, then, is that it's not necessarily true, right?

I never said it was an absolute true, but most of the time it is fundamentally so. Though I'd never do it myself, I know people who have drunk their own urine while on a specific fast. A questionable, fruit-loopy practice to be sure; but not dangerous; unless, as you say, they have some infection in their bladder or are peeing lots of infected blood.

[-] 1 points by FrankieJ (86) 13 years ago

It's only reasonably so in theory since urine exiting the kidneys is relatively well filtered. In practice, not at all though so since there are many possibilities for disease and/or common types of contamination through pathways and other real-world considerations that come into play. It's one of those things that somebody hears somewhere and it gets twisted and passed along in an abstracted form as an "Internet truth."

Also, it doesn't need to be "lots of infected blood." Very small amounts of pathogens can cause very big problems. Generally, coming into contact with your own doesn't matter much since you've already got whatever it might be. Not the case for someone else though.

Point being that your comment that no harm could come to anyone because it's "sterile" is not at all true.

[-] 0 points by slizzo (-96) 13 years ago

then technically pour some all over yourself, stinky. it's sterile and harmless, right?

"No harm could come to poor, ignorant Pepe, "

so you're not only a disgusting filthy pig, you're a racist bigot too. no surprise. the left is full of filthy racist pig bigots.

[-] 1 points by CrossingtheDivided (357) from Santa Ysabel, CA 13 years ago

What he (the main person in the story who was interviewed) said was unfortunately rather ignorant, although nothing compared to your vile, willful ignorance.

I said nothing about ethnicity. Quit projecting.

[-] 0 points by eyeofthetiger (304) 13 years ago

I love the smell of crap in the morning

[-] 0 points by fishb8 (62) 13 years ago

Tired of people saying . . ."Well I understand their message . . . . .but . . .?????" If being heard was their purpose . . .then it'd be over !! BUT that is not their purpose . . . .Their purpose is to simply disrupt, to clog, to annoy, to passively damage property, to challenge all rules and authority until they simply cannot be tolerated ...AND MUST BE REMOVED. AND THEN THE REAL VIOLENCE WILL BEGIN as their progressive masters planned all along.

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[-] 0 points by Spankysmojo (849) 13 years ago

Along with the best. LA OWS shows that people can see through the smog.

[-] 0 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 13 years ago

It's LA folks. Unwashed bodies? Bottles of piss? Mounds of garbage? Just another day in LA.

[-] 0 points by brettdecker (68) 13 years ago

Sounds like the club scene in West Hollywierd.

[-] 0 points by applepie (17) 13 years ago

which only proves that, the media is controlled by the government. and it can print / publish only what the government want the American slaves to read. freedom of the press is dead- in this police state. i am quite proud of the demonstrators in LA, who did a fantastic job. training web page http://tinyurl.com/7rvpv43

[-] 1 points by fuzzyp (302) 13 years ago

It only proves that these protests are unorganized and unsanitary. It's a shit hole.

[-] 0 points by applepie (17) 13 years ago

you Americans are so gullible, and stupid- except for ows people who we respect- for the marvelous work they are doing- training web page http://tinyurl.com/7rvpv43

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 13 years ago

you are mentally ill

[-] 1 points by fuzzyp (302) 13 years ago

Thanks for the blanket statement. It's nice and warm underneath it.