Forum Post: ❥❥❥ Occupiers Want a Closed Community? Is that What This Has Become? ❥❥❥
Posted 8 years ago on Feb. 14, 2016, 2:22 p.m. EST by fionachuckles
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from Fairview, NJ
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The more I interact with the few users left here, the more I realize almost everyone is happy with a closed community, with a closed forum. No one seems to want to open the doors and have new users. Perhaps because people are scared their voices will be diminished, one of only a few?
I believe in a forum for all who want to sign in, and a news section where anyone can submit articles to be printed?
Why is that so wrong?
This is Valentine's day, a time for love. Let's celebrate by opening up the forum!
This troll is the main reason why the forum is closed to new users. He never ever let up on trolling here and must have a few hundred monikers by now. In the end, he merely represents the establishment in its totality that worked very hard at taking down Occupy in many different ways whether it was out in the streets, through co-optation, or here online.
Didn't quite work, however, because the seeds of change have already been planted despite the establishment's efforts, and we see now, that those seeds are growing.
I wasn't even around when the site got shut down.
I was told jart banned zendog, shooz, shadz, etc... then shut down the signup page so they could not return.
Not sure why she would shut down the signup page for me since I am already a user and it makes no difference whether I can use the site or not.
Not sure either where you got the idea I wanted to shut down Occupy.
I talked so much about creating a bridge to the ground which would have enhanced the use of this site.
In any case, you will believe what you want, I think we should open up the signup page on this site.
Do you disagree with that?
You were so around when the site was closed to new users. You and your hundreds of monikers were a plight to the forum from day one. You pretended to befriend jart in the early days and then you turned on her when she didn't annoint you as the King of the Forum. Your bridge to the ground was just a bunch of b.s.
And, of course, I think the sign up should be open. Stupid question.
I disagree the Bridge to the Ground was B.S. It was an important idea. Still could be. The net is a great way to unite people from different cities, countries, etc... It's a great way to unite occupiers marching in New-York with those marching in Detroit for example. Or any other city. To share ideas, experiences, etc... The Bridge do the Ground is a crucial idea.
I never pretended to befriend jart, or turn on her. Jart does her own thing. I have always stood by my words, by what I believe in. I always believed this site should be for the 99%, and not run like a jartocracy and said as much. I believe it is important to share our ideas and say what we deeply believe.
Perhaps you are not aware, but jart herself detached herself from Occupy. She changed her political persuasions, etc.. That has nothing to do with me.
And no, I was not around when the signup page got shut down.
shadz still posts all the time under "imnotme"
That's fine. As long as shooz is gone I'm happy. I'm not a big fan of shadz and his Alex Jones type conspiracy theory garbage thinking, but I'm even more against censorship and banning users. I believe the forum should be opened to all.
I had proposed long ago an ignore feature, whereby each user could be able to create his own ignore list if he didn't like reading what certain people wrote. That way, absolutely no need for censorship. Give power to each user to write what they want, and also read what they want.
I have suggested keeping a tally of comments separate from stinkle/twinkle and rating posts to get more discussion going, in the past the forum has been attacked because of the rating system employed, the power of people to create a ton of accounts and swamping the system rather than present arguments for their positions is enable through the current voting system, it would be possible to correct it, however i am unwilling to pay for the code to be written so there you go.....
Rating systems are useless. We are grown ups, we can decide who are the good authors by ourselves. If I like to read factsrfun then I read him. I don't need others to give you twinkles for me to make that decision.
I don't need numbers I know everyone, yet the voting is what led to site closure, I don't care about that either, there was a time when reality was discussed here, but reality based people were slowly driven away by ego based. Many were banned, not 'driven away" many were too strong to care about mean comments but their reality was not welcome, some slipped into the enemy's camp too often and let their egos roar in any case it looks like the US will soon have President Trump, you may decide to watch a bit more then.
US citizens love their guns, they potato chips, their army, their video games, an their Trump.
Are you back on the forum because of the Bernie Sanders movement?
No, not at all. I don't follow US politics all that closely, but I do support Bernie Sanders. He seems like a great people's man. Good ideas, humble, energized, etc...
Do you like him as well?
Do you think US can ever have a social health care system like in more modern thinking countries?
Good ideas, humble, energized, and fair. Yes, from what I know about him, he is close to OWS values. Humanity is in trouble unless we choose to take care of every human.
How can you be knowledgeable without following US politics?
US is not the center of my world. There are so many things to learn etc... US politics is just not my main cracker. I chew on other stuff these days. I read a bit about it though, from time to time.
Wall Street is in the US this is an occupy Wall Street site, if you no interest in this site I have no problem with that.
I consider Occupy a world wide movement, not only a US happening. There were many Occupy protests in my country. Often, the problem with US citizens such as yourself, is that you think you are the only thing that matters, the center of the world. It's like you view the world with a big selfie stick, never bothering to look at what others are doing around the world.
BTW - This site was considered for a long time as being the Hub for the entire Occupy movement. Not only for people in NYC.
It's a shame you would try to discredit someone just because they aren't from US. Occupy needs all the help it can get. You should welcome anyone who wants to be part of the protest.
Of course Occupy is worldwide it started in Egypt, there are many Occupy sites all over the world, perhaps you would find a site based in a country you actually care about to be more interesting. you are a small minded idiot who thinks acting above it all makes you "special' I do think you are 'special" in that short bus way, it is you stuck on a selfie stick unaware there are many sites to learn about the worldwide Occupy movement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Occupy_movement_protest_locations
This site used to accept people of all nationalities, no questions asked. It used to be the international hub for OWS. I guess that has changed.
Provide me with a link to another active Occupy forum, and I'll be glad to check it out. Somewhere that has daily posts. As far as I know, there are none. Apart from a handful of users here, the movement seems completely dead.
I guess without leaders it was hard to move the movement....
People did not trust the leaders behind the scenes; the leaders in the shadows. People like open & transparent democracies.
Fair enough. I understood you were knowledgeable anyway. When I asked you about US politics, I was thinking about the military superiority that the US might have. Regardless of where I lived, I would want to be knowledgeable about US politics, even if I lived in a NATO country.
Sure, that makes sense. I am knowledgeable to a degree, but not in the details. I follow the broader lines, but don't follow that on a daily basis. That's one reason I like to come here. To catch up a bit. To learn from the more knowledgeable like yourself.
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Where were you when this forum's death knell was sounded? Nowhere to be found! You who had sock puppets galore, you could have checked in instead of leaving this movement for dead.
There may very well be security reasons for the shutdown of the signup page, after the Charlie Hebdo Massacre.
I quote from John F. Kennedy's Inaugural Address - Let both sides unite to heed in all corners of the earth the command of Isaiah—to "undo the heavy burdens ... and to let the oppressed go free."
Despite the triumph of the goddess of peace, driving the chariot atop the Brandenburg Gate, in the land of far too many bloody wars, my people still carry heavy burdens and the oppressed have not gone free, so the dogged vigil goes on, awaiting a new generation, to accept the torch.
Where I was is of no importance. No one must be here all the time. It's perfectly legitimate to take breaks from the forum from time to time.
Kind of crazy to link Charlie Hebdo with the closing for the signup page. Seems like nutcase fishing in my opinion.
What's the point of a forum for the 99% if only a few can use it?
Censorship is still rampant here too, sad indeed.
The U.S. has never succeeded in pushing our First and Second Amendments to the whole world, so yes, I don't mind being called a crazy nutcase. The First Amendment was somewhat recognized as a universal human right but far too many countries and religious sects either ignore or only pay lip service to it as they see fit.
That's why I have our Second Amendment for our footstool. Liberty is under assault worldwide and it is our sacred honor to defend it everywhere.