Forum Post: Occupiers = Perverts & Rapists
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 5:17 p.m. EST by ItsOnlyMe
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See for yourself who the occupiers are:
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2011/10/18/occupy-cleveland-protester-alleges-she-was-raped/
Cleveland police are investigating an alleged sexual assault incident Saturday at the "Occupy Cleveland" rally involving a 19-year-old female
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/132064518.html
Man accused of exposing self to children arrested he had been at Westlake Park taking part in the Occupy Seattle protests.
Don't fall for this psychological crap from any one percent goon. It's an obvious attempt to discredit our cause and break our will. Don't fall for it. Just follow the law and keep protesting no matter what the one percent goons say or do. Our message is vital. Below is my two cents:
We have been mislead by Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, and nearly every other public figure. Economic growth, job creation, and actual prosperity are not necessarily a package deal. In fact, the first two are horribly misunderstood. Economic growth/loss (GDP) is little more than a measure of wealth changing hands. A transfer of currency from one party to another. The rate at which it is traded. This was up until mid ’07′ however, has never been a measure of actual prosperity. Neither has job creation. The phrase itself has been thrown around so often, and in such a generic politicali manner, that it has come to mean nothing. Of course, we need to have certain things done for the benefit of society as a whole. We need farmers, builders, manufacturers, transporters, teachers, cops, firefighters, soldiers, mechanics, sanitation workers, doctors, managers, and visionaries. Their work is vital. I’ll even go out on a limb and say that we need politicians, attorneys, bankers, investors, and entertainers. In order to keep them productive, we must provide reasonable incentives. We need to compensate each by a fair measure for their actual contributions to society. We need to provide a reasonable scale of income opportunity for every independent adult, every provider, and share responsibility for those who have a legitimate need for aid. In order to achieve and sustain this, we must also address the cost of living and the distribution of wealth. Here, we have failed miserably. The majority have already lost their home equity, their financial security, and their relative buying power. The middle class have actually lost much of their ability to make ends meet, re-pay loans, pay taxes, and support their own economy. The lower class have gone nearly bankrupt. In all, its a multi-trillion dollar loss taken over about 30 years. Millions are under the impression that we need to create more jobs simply to provide more opportunity. as if that would solve the problem. It won’t. Not by a longshot. Jobs don’t necessarily create wealth. In fact, they almost never do. For the mostpart, they only transfer wealth from one party to another. A gain here. A loss there. Appreciation in one community. Depreciation in another. In order to create net wealth, you must harvest a new resource or make more efficient use of one. Either way you must have a reliable and ethical system in place to distribute that newly created wealth in order to benefit society as a whole and prevent a lagging downside. The ‘free market’ just doesn’t cut it. Its a farce. Many of the jobs created are nothing but filler. The promises empty. Sure, unemployment reached an all-time low under Bush. GDP reached an all-time high. But those are both shallow and misleading indicators. In order to gauge actual prosperity, you must consider the economy in human terms. As of ’08′ the average American was working more hours than the previous generation with far less equity to show for it. Consumer debt, forclosure, and bankruptcy were also at all-time highs. As of ’08′, every major American city was riddled with depressed communities, neglected neighborhoods, failing infrastructures, lost revenue, and gang activity. All of this has coincided with massive economic growth and job creation. Meanwhile, the rich have been getting richer and richer and richer even after taxes. Our nation’s wealth has been concentrated. Again, this represents a multi-trillion dollar loss taken by the majority. Its an absolute deal breaker. Bottom line: With or without economic growth or job creation, you must have a system in place to prevent too much wealth from being concentrated at the top. Unfortunately, we don’t. Our economy has become nothing but a giant game of Monopoly. The richest one percent already own nearly 1/2 of all United States wealth. More than double their share before Reagan took office. Still, they want more. They absolutely will not stop. Now, our society as a whole is in serious jeapordy. Greed kills.
Yeah mcc, with all your life experiences, you know just what to do to cure all ills.
You just want to TAKE from the rich...you're a regular Robbin' Hood. IOW, you're jealous of others.
No. I want the majority to have a reasonable share. They have earned it. This country wasn't built by one percent or 10 percent of the population. The majority made some type of contribution along the way. Still, the lower 90 percent are left to share less than 10 percent of our nation's wealth. That is disgusting. It can not be justified.
Yes, it can. Unless the people with the money accumulated it illegally, they are entitled to it. You have no right to redistribute what others have earned.
You're confusing legality with morality. Huge difference.
You're confusing YOUR morality with other people's morality and the law.
Nothing is stopping YOU from becoming rice, if that's what you chose. OTOH, if you want to be another Mother Teresa, go right ahead. Just don't expect everyone else to be like you or agree with you regarding morality.
But I don't want to be rice. No arms. No legs. No face. Nothing to do except hang around in a red box until one day you find yourself in a pot of boiling water. No thanks.
IOW, you have no cogent reply, so you mock a typo. Bully for you.
Actually we do since I believe it was stolen. I'm a Marxist and I believe money should be based on actually contribution based on labor and hours, not if you're a CEO. So technically IMO the 1% have money that doesn't belong to them and they should return it.
Technically, you're wrong. Legality in this country is not based on what YOU personally believe.
So, I was telling you what I believe and why I believe it's perfect justifiable to redistribute wealth.
Well, it isn't and it's not gonna happen. Get over it and go on with your life.
what's the point in having a brain if you're going to be paid based on labor and hours?
Maybe, probably not but I'm not gonna just stop wishing because you want me to.
Fine, but by the time you're 30, you'll look back and realize how wrong you were on Oct. 18th, 2011. Remember that date.
Doubt it but who knows no one can see the future. This conversation is not significant enough for me to remember tomorrow in all honesty though.
If indeed this is true, guess what, rapists and molestors are anywhere and everywhere. Should we shut down bars, frat houses, libraries, and schools? I heard people were raped and molested by people they met there.
It's true alright. The point is that there is a higher percentage of molesters & rapists in the Occupy camp than in the general population.
based on what data?
Based on the fact the these acts took place among a very small group of people. And that's only the ones that were reported.
That's much higher than what occurs in the general population of millions.
Entirely not true, you pulled that fact out your arse. Rape probably happens every day somewhere around the world but you only hear about it from Occupiers because that is what's making the news right now. The people who are scared of us can not wait to find anything to pin against us, and how perfect is "people from OWS are rapists!" Cmon.
So you are a statistician apparently, who has never heard of variance?
"They see me trollinnnnnn...."
Not surprised at all.
Forgive him. It's the Neanderthal gene (no disrespect to Neanderthals).
And separate the bad apples from the good ones.
This is most stupid played out trick. We will not fall for it.
I've noticed this movement attracts all of the finest people.