Forum Post: Obama provokes "race war"
Posted 11 years ago on March 5, 2013, 11:40 a.m. EST by GirlFriday
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But Obama's scorn goes far wider than just the religion and ethnicity of Jews and Christians. Particularly apparent since his last fraudulent election to the Office of the President in 2012, it has also become crystal clear that he simply hates people of the white race, even though he is one half white himself. During the campaign he constantly berated Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney as the nominee of the rich, vowing to make the rich pay their fair share in taxes and other socio-economic forms of "reparations" during his second term. And, in just the last few months since his reelection, Obama and his Democrat enablers and lackeys in Congress have moved arrogantly and aggressively to make good on his promise – and he has done so with a vengeance. Obama's constant derogatory references to the "rich" are mostly just a "politically correct" euphemism for "whitey," just as attacks by anti-Semites, of which Obama is also one, frequently are leveled against Israel, in order to mask their hatred of the true target, Jews themselves. In short, making "whitey" pay his "fair share" has become a constant drum beat of Obama and his "white slaves" in The White House, like his embarrassing boy press secretary Jay Carney.
Put Obama's Muslim identification, his anti-Semitism and his pounding of rich whites together and you have a certified, and highly dangerous Black Muslim in The White House – ala (pun intended) Malcolm X, Elijah Mohammed and Louis Farrakhan.
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Believe me when I tell you, that I did not realize that all of this was taking place. I am shocked I don't understand how Obama could instigate this madness. It is absolute madness.
From Philly.
http://www.citypaper.net/blogs/nakedcity/Philly-Mag-cover-Whites-must-criticize-blacks-more-.html
Huber's idea that white people are uniquely aggrieved because they are muzzled in discussions of race (why are they allowed to say the n-word and not me) is not a new one. It's more that Huber wants to have a particular sort of conversation about race. Namely, he "yearn[s] for....the freedom to speak to my African-American neighbors about...how the inner city needs to get its act together." Like, you know, an arguably racist conversation about race.
It's a uniquely FLAKESnews style of argument.
It just amazes me that it's in a major publication of the city of brotherly love.
Agreed.
I really don't know how anyone could listen to all of that on a 24/7 basis and be sane.
It's my belief that they are not.
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I assumed this insanity was from The Onion
Then, I saw alan keyes name on it
it is not his insanity that scares me-
it is the millions of Americans who believe the endless lies
Isn't it?
The endless lies of your lord and master Obama?
Ma?
Turn on FLAKESnews, I gotta run to the gun show and stand in line like a lemming for a few hours.
You’re lying. The gun show isn’t until Saturday. But we can go to the indoor gun range today if you’d like. I need some 5.56 ammo anyway.
Omaha.
Didn't you mean to say Omaha?
http://www.omaha.com/article/20130306/NEWS/703069923/1685#black-refs-allege-bias-plan-to-file-federal-suit
lol. Yep, that's right. Omaha. My bad.
How can someone be a Muslim and an anti-Semite?
Really GF ??? playing the race card ? .... getting bored huh ?
Is that what this is? Do tell.
Geez, what did Prez Obama ever do to get this kind of rap?
Gee this is news.One group of wealthy Americans trying to use race to divide people.Can we get a weather forcast up in this bitch to see which way the wind blows.
Another political post, and one full of nonsense at that. What a waste of forum space.
If one wants to talk about politics, one should use proper debating. You don't need lame arguments against Obama, you can find a thousand and one real problems with his way of governance. The same can be said for the republicans. We must focus on serious arguments and proper debating. These lame conspiracy theories based on logical fallacies don't help Occupy. They soil our intellectual discourse.
[-] 0 points by clearsimpletruths (26) 13 minutes ago Another political post, and one full of nonsense at that. What a waste of forum space. If one wants to talk about politics, one should use proper debating. You don't need lame arguments against Obama, you can find a thousand and one real problems with his way of governance. The same can be said for the republicans. We must focus on serious arguments and proper debating. These lame conspiracy theories based on logical fallacies don't help Occupy. They soil our intellectual discourse. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink
Did this disrupt your intellectual intercourse?
[-] 1 points by clearsimpletruths (26) 1 minute ago Another political post, and one full of nonsense at that. What a waste of forum space. If one wants to talk about politics, one should use proper debating. You don't need lame arguments against Obama, you can find a thousand and one real problems with his way of governance. The same can be said for the republicans. We must focus on serious arguments and proper debating. These lame conspiracy theories based on logical fallacies don't help Occupy. They soil our intellectual discourse. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink
I am shocked! Shocked! Is this political?
We must be more serious. How many sock puppets do you have goin' right now? Seriously?
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Are you disillusioned? I am serious. Who, or what group, do you see as ending the madness?
lolwut?
sigh. these finer points of sarcasm bounce right off my skull. I honestly thought you were a proponent of the argument in the article. I don't quite know what to make of that, or my state of mind. Because that article sounded just about spot-on to me. I guess I am too dense to help.
I think there is a undercurrent of anti-white feelings at the moment. It seems to permeate from politics, to universities and business. My personal feeling is that people seem to think Whites are conservatives and Tea Party members, and need to repent for being White.
No, I’m not a racist. But you’d have to be blind not to see the guilt trip being laid on Whites. There has always been racism, and probably always will be. But, of recent, it seems Whites are being vilified because of being White. An example is the White Privilege high school class taught in Wisconsin’ the White Privilege conference in Seattle and the Unfair Campaign where Whites have White guilt statements written on their face.
I have no idea how Obama plays into this, but racism is as pervasive as ever in America.
One of the problems that OWS has to overcome is the divide between people of color and the movement on the whole, and we are starting to do this, and that has been evident in the two OWS - MLK celebrations that I have attended...one at Riverside Church near Harlem in 2012 (where MLK gave his beyond Vietnam speech), and the other at St Jacobi Church in Brooklyn in 2013
For a people that have suffered the injustices, that were to a large degree promoted by the elite, and ignored by us for decades upon decades, it is difficult for them to overcome and forgive their accurate beleif that we were not there for them....and we have only suffered some of these same injustices for a relatively short time
When this division heals in Occupy, and it will, just like President Johnson knew when MLK withdrew his support for the Vietnam War...he knew he was screwed!!, and that was made clear in either his memoirs or perhaps by another person close to him..
Hence the corrupt elite will also know that they are screwed when we heal this divide, and once again, we will
That same dynamic will play out in the Occupy movement, as those within the Occupy movement know how important is is to heal those wounds
And I am happy to say that is one of the focuses of the affinity group, Occupy Town Square that I belong to, as it is our plan to go into more multi-cultural areas in NYC to hold our events...as we know the importance of UNITY
On another note, it may not be evident where you live, but where i live racism is dying out both firguratively and literally...or through attrition, that is
~Odin~
I don’t intend to sound cynical, but there have been thousands of marches, protests, meetings, public discussions, awareness campaigns and so on. Alas, racism is as rampant as ever, probably even more so today than fifty years ago.
Resentment among minorities because they haven’t made the headway they expected in our “enlightened” age. Increasing anger among Whites because they feel the laws give preference to minorities over them. Whites don’t see a level playing field.
I applaud your efforts. Hopefully OWS can make a difference. But NYC is hardly a microcosm of the rest of the nation. I’d say racism in most places in the US is rising. The frustration is growing between the races. To not see it is looking through rose colored glasses.
I read somewhere that the number of hate groups has risen considerably since Obama took office. I don’t want to sound dramatic, but I’ve heard people discuss race war.
So, I’m not convinced racism will go away. It’s ingrained in our society to such an extent it will take multiple generations to erase, if ever.
I do not at all believe that racism is near as "rampant as ever," and no where near what it was 50 years ago
But i am not surprised that having the first black president has invigorated the hateful, racist groups that still exist, as it gives them a focus point
What is manifesting itself now is an older white generation that is feeling the effects of irrelavance as the world that they knew... where they had an advantage is falling apart, and life is passing them by
And what you are witnessing in your neck (red?) of the woods is the last gasp effort of these hate-filled people in their foolish belief that they can.. 'set the.. coontry... straight'
Whether you realize or not Narley, they are a dying lot, yes quicker in places like NYC than in most places, granted,...and the quicker the better as far as I am concerned
Aside from having traveled a bit throughout my life, I have also spent 7-8 months combined ....in my last 3 visits in the last two years... to Alaska's narrow-minded, intolerant Bible Belt, which BTW Narley - very ironically to me is also home to a very high rate of domestic abuse, alcoholism, and where Sarah Palin's hometown of Wasilla in particular is 'lovingly'referred to as, the Methamphetamine Capital of Alaska. I've always been kinda leery of people who preach morals.
My point is ...I guess, while I may not have been around the block quite as many times as you, my glasses are far from "rose colored"
One of the reasons that the Republicans have been scurrying around trying to REadjust their insidiously, divisive promoting agenda is because the changing demographics, and added to that is a more tolerant youth, who do not buy Grandpa's screwed-up view on life
And in the "enlightened age," that you speak of, aren't people of color far more likely to get arrested for, say drug violations, than their white counterparts are?
And aren't they are far more likely to.. spend far more time in them 'ol private run...., for-profit prisons, for the same offense as us whiteys are
I would think about moving Narley as it doesn't sound so good there. I am always amazed to meet so many people from the Mid West in NYC, really. And when i was much younger, I had a friend who moved to NYC from the southern Illinois Bible Belt where he grew up. He said that he could never return there, and he never did, but at his wife's insistence they moved to Austin where they had attended UT
~Odin~
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I think racism is more prevalent anytime in my lifetime.
Although I’m a country boy at heart. I’m college educated and worked in mid-management in the high tech industry for forty years before retiring. I lived in San Francisco for eight years and Dallas for nine years. Although I’ve never lived in NYC. I didn’t just fall off the turnip truck.
I make an effort to stay in tune to social and political issues. My point is I see a serious undercurrent of racism in America. Not just Whites, but most races seem to have racial tension. And it’s not going away. IMHO.
As for moving to NYC. I have nothing against NYC, but it’s a city, and I’ve had all the big city life I want. Never again a big city for me. Even the nice quite suburb I live in is too urban for me. If it weren’t for wanting to live near the kids and grandkids I’d be back on the farm in a heartbeat.
Everything is a trade-off Narley. All my kids can walk in and out of both worlds, and have a mental toughness from having grown up in rural Vermont where one still lives near the top of a mountain in a very rural farming area, and where another one would live too if she had her druthers
Although i am not fond of the 'burbs that I live in, i would never want to live far from the sea
NYC, while being far from perfect does not have that parochial attitude that is found in most cities, and the people are very tolerant of the differences in other people
That small town narrow-mindedness not found in VT much though, and the malicious gossiping bothers the shit out of me, but i do appreciate the small town 'tightness', for lack of a better word.
You are just calling it as you see it, as I am. I never thought that you were one of the problems, or that you just fell off a" turnip truck," but it sounds like a lot of your neighbors have, and they bumped their heads hard.
~Odin~
Who benefits from promoting racism?
The elite...
Yep. Scrapping over scraps.
Black and white did not always hate each other. White indentured servants and black slaves (freed and in bondage) knew each other and shared a similar lot in life in the colonies. At first. The owning class quickly recognized a common threat and opportunity. The first segregation laws were passed after two or three "epiphanies". Racism was codified and white males bought off with the promise of indian land...
Yea but you know, we have never lived that life. This is a new breed of racism born entirely of life experience.
Sorry, but I remember de-segregation in the South. I had, and have, racists in my family. We live with the long-standing results of those first colonial laws -- all the way thru Jim Crow.
That's not true... racism is evolutionary and it exists worldwide, not just in the US. Desegregation does not equate to full integration; have the Asians, the Natives, Hispanics, Middle Easterners fully integrated? No one voluntarily relinquishes culture and ethnicity. And as long as peoples are "different" they will be divided.
It's not true I have racists in my family? LOL News to me...
I agree, to a certain extent. Jared Diamond may have the right of it...
But these people, white and black, were in conditions of servitude and harsh living conditions, far from their native homelands. Whom else do they turn to? Each other and friendly indians. Ideas began to form, some restlessness was heard... Some laws were passed. Blacks in abject chattel slavery. Whites bought off with promise of a vote and indian land. And manifest destiny was born...
Yep. First law came out in Mass.
Problem is, we're still promising indian land...
You have no idea to what depth attorneys in the NY area will go to deny them of even the land they currently own. Anywhere where issues arise to permit a challenge, there is a whole bevy of lawyers (most of whom self label as Democrat) aligned against them because there are millions of dollars involved - there is no political or ethical allegiance when there is money involved.
So this is a partisan Dem problem? NOT Republican?
Yea definitely... all these lawyers in wealthy upscale neighborhoods today are Dems.
You sure are smart. Who was against the Violence Against Womens Act because it included protections for Native American women?
I have no idea who benefits. I think it’s a emotional thing. No logic to it. I just know it’s real and not going away. The civil rights laws were passed in the mid-sixties. There has been considerable benefit to minorities, but the laws can’t overcome emotions.
I work in a very diverse environment but I live in an area-and actually-moved from a town where we had trucks with white dudes rolling down the street threatening to kill black people. The conversations over public transportation are not about necessity but if someone from one town can hop on the train and steal a 54 inch tv, jump back on the train and head back to their town. No lie.
The economic repercussions for everyone involved are insane.
Even though we have laws that were passed, we have had issues of white flight which have decimated areas. I think that it is a very tough issue that a lot of people do not want to face.
That could explain your violent behavior on this forum. I thought you had a case of never ending PMS, but living in the stressful conditions you describe might also cause someone to have fits of emotional turbulence which extend to never ending illogical rants.
You're an Internet bully. Get lost.
GirlFriday stalks and bullies me when I write postings. I'm just returning the favor. Read her posts and you'll often see her ranting and using insults she learned from children in the sandbox. She spends her days attacking people here.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-do-people-solely-discuss-american-politics-on-/
Read all our exchanges in my posting above and count the number of times I insult her as opposed to the number of times she insults me. You'll see what I mean.
The girl has intense emotional problems. I'm writing a book about her called "Forever Bleeding". It's about a girl who is always menstruated.
Do you actually have the galling hypocricy to accuse someone else of stalking and bullying?
What kind of cesspool spawned you anyway? I mean seriously, you (aside from Dick Cheney and Adolf Hitler) are the saddest argument I have ever seen that humnity is beyond redemption.
I say this to you in a spirit of common humanity. What could possibly make life worth living for someone like you . . . ? The endless effort of yours to build up your ego against whatever it is that destroyed you when you were a child - to prove how smart you are to someone somewhere (as if anyone even cared given who you are) - this cannot possibly compensate for your abject self-denegration?
The very existance of people like you is the gravest challenge to humanity. You are beyond therapy. I honestly cannot imagine how you have any hope for redemption.
This is an Internet form for chris sake. Don’t take it so personal. Hell I’m on my third ID in a year on this forum because I got into it with other posters. Now I just ignore those posters. Whether you like it or not it’s bullying. Just chill a bit. Enjoy the forum. It’s really not worth the emotional effort to get upset about it.
I'm not upset in the least. I like trolling annoying users. I do it for entertainment purposes in between my serious postings.
You shouldn't tell people here you're on your third username. People like shooz and GirlFriday will not let you be now. They'll be all over you replying to everyone of your comments to call you childish names.
[-] 1 points by clearsimpletruths (41) 4 minutes ago GirlFriday stalks and bullies me when I write postings. I'm just returning the favor. Read her posts and you'll often see her ranting and using insults she learned from children in the sandbox. She spends her days attacking people here. http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-do-people-solely-discuss-american-politics-on-/ Read all our exchanges in my posting above and count the number of times I insult her as opposed to the number of times she insults me. You'll see what I mean. The girl has intense emotional problems. I'm writing a book about her called "Forever Bleeding". It's about a girl who is always menstruated. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink
You are a well known internet troll. Not just here but all over the internet. Isn't that right?
Well known.
Quit your crying, cockroach.
Now I'm a known troll all over the Internet!? Your deluded conspiracy theories never stop! Wow, just a lying out of control emotional wreck. Seriously, do you ever use arguments, or do you just attack people with name calling all day long. You soil the forum and detract intellectuals from coming here. You're paid for that aren't you?
[-] 1 points by clearsimpletruths (41) 0 minutes ago Now I'm a known troll all over the Internet!? Your deluded conspiracy theories never stop! Wow, just a lying out of control emotional wreck. Seriously, do you ever use arguments, or do you just attack people with name calling all day long. You soil the forum and detract intellectuals from coming here. You're paid for that aren't you? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink
Well known.
You are a slimy little disgusting cockroach. A sorry ass multi ID troll.
[-] 1 points by clearsimpletruths (26) 1 minute ago live in an area-and actually-moved from a town where we had trucks with white dudes rolling down the street threatening to kill black people. That could explain your violent behavior on this forum. I thought you had a case of never ending PMS, but living in the stressful conditions you describe might also cause someone to have fits of emotional turbulence which extend to never ending illogical rants. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink
lol
Yeah, one couldn't possibly believe it could be tied to your douchebaggery. I mean, your multiple IDs and trollishness has nothing to do with it
Try again.
A forum user does not have the capability to turn another user into an emotional wreck. That person must be predisposed. You have a problem that most likely stems from childhood. There's someone wrong when someone rants post after post using insults found in the sandboxes of kindergarteners. You must know you are hurting this site with such tactics? You can't help it because you have no control over your emotions. It's probably more Jungian than Freudian.
[-] 1 points by clearsimpletruths (26) 0 minutes ago A forum user does not have the capability to turn another user into an emotional wreck. That person must be predisposed. You have a problem that most likely stems from childhood. There's someone wrong when someone rants post after post using insults found in the sandboxes of kindergarteners. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink
You mean that one which says that multiple IDs and divisiveness makes you an unethical asshole. You have a problem that indicates you're a sociopath. You don't have a little burial plot with dead animals that you killed, do you?
I thought we were going to be serious. Seriously, how many socks do you have rolling right now?:
Nobody wants to own the deli next to the Mexican laundromat; they sell and sell cheap. And on and on all the way up Main Street until someone refuses to sell or rent cheap... it's been going on since the dawn.
In Wales?
It's going to impoverish every economic hub in the US, even states will fall. California will soon be a wasteland.
You have lost your bloody mind.
California's goose is already cooked.
I live in an almost totally White upscale suburb. The only minorities I see are doing yard work. However, I was raised in a predominately black rural area. I never attended school with blacks and didn’t socialize with them. That was the culture back then. I recently went back to the area where I was raised. I stopped for gas. I asked a black man directions. He bowed his head and said "yes sah, boss", and gave me directions. I was shocked, I mean dumbfounded, that mindset still existed. Not a pertinent story, but worth telling.
As much as people want to ignore it, inner city black neighborhoods are more dangerous. It’s not racist to see that; and it would be foolhardy to ignore it. That is not a racist statement. It’s just the way things are.
I grew up in a very small farming community in the Northwest. In high school there were a handful of American Indian placement students, two Asian students (both adopted by white families) maybe 30 Latino students, but zero, and I mean zero African Americans. In fact, only one school in our championship basketball division had ONE black player. Everyone else was white.
These kids were our friends, and had been since kindergarten. We hung out together, dated together, fought together and graduated together. We were never taught to look down on someone else because they were different-be it a handicap or a skin color. In fact, we were so enamored with the one black player that I recall being disappointed that he didn't play any better than the tall, skinny white kid who was our school's center!
Now I live in a neighborhood like Narley does, but we're not totally "white". Three houses down is a bi-racial couple with four beautiful kids. The husband is African American, ripped head to toe, and works for homeland security. The neighborhood kids think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread because he does this "jump launch toss" thing with them in the neighborhood pool until they wear him out.
Our best friends in this neighborhood are a beautiful, warm, hilarious, and gracious family who moved here from Mexico city. Their sons are probably the smartest kids I've ever met, including my own, and I can't name one person who lives here who hasn't eaten Blanca's homemade Mexican food because we've ALL been in her kitchen at some point.
We have several neighborhood parties every summer and at the last one, the previously mentioned pool launcher and his best friend here (an equally ripped Apache pilot who is white) challenged each other to a pull up contest using the playground monkey bars. Another short, white, balding guy I'll call "Rod" decided to accept the challenge too, and the entire neighborhood gathered around laughing and mocking the short WHITE guy because he was so obviously outclassed by the other two. Well, he's tiny, but wiry, and he ended up winning by a landslide.
It was hilarious. And fun. And wonderful. And all of our gatherings are like that. I'm aware that racism exists. But it doesn't live everywhere. Nor is it welcome everywhere. Just so you know.
I can understand your story.One day when we was out on the trail a new fella started messin around wit big jim.Back than we used to call them negroes.Jim was a quiet hardworkin sort of fellow.This new guy started layin it into BJ You know old bj jumped up so fast pulled this fellow off his horse and cut him ear to ear.Old BJ he got that blood a spurtin everyplace. I never seen such a mess.Served that new fella right insultin BJ like that.
Wow. That is just......wow. That was a pertinent story.
What is there to ignore? It isn't just inner city black neighborhoods. Every little area in cities has there own little gangbanging crap that has been going for ever-Italian, Chinese, Irish, Korean, Jewish, Hispanic, etc. Wealth buys space and sometimes a drive way.
Actually I think there are a number of factors driving the cost of retail and residential space in cities but one things for sure, nobody feels comfortable amongst dirtbags. The number one mistake at the moment is permitting laundromats... want to lose a neighborhood, insert a laundromat.
Huh?
Once upon a time, there were individuals who owned large pieces of real estate on Main Street, the main thoroughfare of the economic hub. In an effort to grow wealth and increase value these owners crowded in an ever increasing number of small stores or commercial enterprises. Eventually these large land owners and landlords sold in bits and pieces leaving us with all of these individually owned enterprises. Insert just one that allows people of difference to congregate - what appear to be gangbangers - and you lose an entire block within just a few years because the real estate in the immediate area devalues. It's going on nationwide at the moment; this in turn helps drive the value of upscale neighborhoods.
This isn't about NASCAR???
Interesting post GF.
Not sure. I don't think this banks left.
Sure does go into the wall though.
Ya, well, you know it isn't NASCAR unless someone goes into a wall.
I have no idea. I don't have the patience for NASCAR.
I don’t like NASCAR either. That’s sacrilege where I live, but oh well. Just as an FYI, I read the NRA is now sponsoring a NASCAR car.
Are they really?
Yeah, I'm not going to sit still that long.
I'm not much of a motor head either - though I do like mechanics - complex machinery and processes.
lol.
Yeah, not too much into mechanics of vehicles. More the complex machinery and processes of racism.
Ah - the processes of racism - absurd stupidity - fed by the few to the many who will not think for them-self.
Scalia is named Troll.
When A Supreme Court Justice Sounds Like A Racist Internet Commenter, We've Got A Problem
I saw that, it's pretty funny
Yep - once one gets past the initial disgust.
The fact that she called him a troll was funny not the incident itself. I came across an article the other day and it's so insane. Here-this is why I found it funny, I should have been more clear. http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=9225
Fux Spews - HAH ( the fuckers )
Yeah, that's what I thought.
More people "are every day as well" as they see the repub/corpoRATist love fest day after day after day after absurd-um.
I hope so. Sometimes it isn't looking so good for the home team.
I see more and more detrimental things being said about Fux Spews all the time. They are becoming an MSM open joke.
I think they became that a long time ago. I can read it much easier than I can watch it.
To watch it is to risk at the very least ulcers - that is - if one cares and is not already addicted to tabloids.
That would give me a stroke right there.
Agree - reading fiction is one thing - reading or watching fiction presented as truth - OH HOW FUCKING DEADLY.
Yep. But, I don't watch anyone else either. I'm doing well if I watch the local weather anymore. I just read everything. With Fox, I have an uncontrollable urge to scream at the tv which doesn't do anything.
Understood - If I happen to look in on fux - I make sure that I have nothing harmful nearby that I can throw at the screen.