Forum Post: Obama Exerts Executive Privilege in Showdown Over 'Fast & Furious' Docs
Posted 12 years ago on June 20, 2012, 11:09 a.m. EST by Umong
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President Obama grants eleventh-hour request by Attorney General Eric Holder to exert executive privilege over 'Fast and Furious' documents, as House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chaired by Rep. Darrell Issa takes up contempt of Congress vote against Holder.
now the American people can see what kind of government they have. A suicidal political move by the POTUS
For those of you who like to blame Bush for "Fast and Furious" let me enlighten you.
Bush did set up a program to ship guns across the border and here's what it's about:
There are two differences between the Bush and Obama administration and their operations. At least three of four operations conducted under the Bush Administration, Wide Receiver, Medrano and Hernandez, were conducted by co-operating with Mexican law enforcement authorities. There was no effort by the Obama administration to co-ordinate with Mexico on Fast and Furious.
The next difference is the most important. There were no casualties as a result of any Bush administration efforts.
As the result of Fast and Furious, one US Border Patrol agent Brian Terry and possibly Jaime Zapata have been killed, along with hundreds of Mexican citizens. Eric Holder seems indifferent to this fact.
And one othe fact that needs to be included - Obama met with Hillary Clinton to push more gun control by using "fast and furious" as a means of publicizing that "American guns were being shipped illegally into Mexico".
However, after the Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed someone leaked the program to the news media.
So, as you can see, although Bush did ship guns across to Mexico, he worked with the Mexican Law Enforcement - the Obimination did not for he had personal reasons - more gun control.
Fast and Furious was a horrible failure
Only because some brave ATF whistleblowers came forward. It was never designed to interdict the weapons.
The entire mission failed when all the weapons were distributed and lost track of in turn killing a Order Patrol Agent. My cousin is an agent and was a friend of Brian Terry.
I think you misunderstood me. There was never any plan to track the weapons, so it is rather misleading to say they lost track of them, as the liberal media outlets keep phrasing it.
The plan was always to let the guns walk. Not sure why.
I don't doubt the gun lobby's assertion that it was meant to convince the public that we need more gun control.
I also wonder if we are trying to pick sides in the drug cartel wars. After all, our govt does dabble in the drug trade and the drug war means big profits for private prisons.
It also allows the public to accept our increasingly militarized police forces. Nice way to get around the military being barred constitutionally from acting as police. Can you really tell the difference any more when any warrant for any little reason is served by no-knock Special Ops wannabes with all the neat toys they are getting from Homeland Security?
Does your town have a tank? Mine does.
National gaurd on the border will help stop the drug war. I doubt they have a tank in youre town, it's probably like an amr order swat APC or something.
I mean, I read an article about a little tiny town in Vermont (in the middle of the woods) whose police department just received shipment of an armored military assault vehicle, funded by a Homeland Security grant (our tax dollars hard at work). Make of this what you will.
Obama promised to implement the most transparent administration ever. Once again the Fraud-in-Chief delivers.
Fast and Furious was started by bush stooges
I wonder why issa does no t want to talk to them?
FYI- many of the documents cannot be legally turned over to anyone. but as long as holder is wasting his time on issa's witch hunt, it limits his ability to supress voter supression
Is anything ever Obama's fault? Does "the buck stops here" not apply anymore? He's the "victim in chief" and his apologists are happy to do whatever they can to enable him.
Government is fucked-up - that is pure and simple truth.
Those who are against the people and for the detriment of society for profits have got to be kicked to the curb.
recent immigrant deportation history
sure there are things Obama did wrong - I'm sure you could list them.
Fast & Furious IS a right wingnut - pro gun - lie.
And you know these papers include the names of 26 DEA undercover agents. Issa is on a witch hunt and does not care.
Obama and Holder are traitorous. These are your butt buddies bensdad,I hope your proud.
do you know what "butt buddies" is ?
such a funny boy, you are!
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Yeah I'm sure you have first hand knowledge.
don 't you remember me on Canal St last August ?
you were soooo hot!
Is that what passes for humor in your bath house?