Forum Post: Not about drugs, about policy.
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 5, 2011, 9:10 p.m. EST by TheEvilFuckaire
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I am not advocating the illegal use of drugs, I am asking why they are banned. The answer you have been programed to respond with is: "They are bad for you." That may be, but it is not why they are banned. The government does not care if you live or die or get sick or stay healthy. That is self evident in our lack of universal health care. So, why? It, like everything, comes down to money, specifically control over currency. Whiskey was used as currency by early farmers in America, the government wanted a piece of these local economic systems and imposed a tax on the distillation of alcohol. This forced the farmers who had no currency other than whiskey to go underground and make their "money" tax free at nite. Moonshine was born. The Opium wars which have resurfaced recently (did you think we sent soldiers to Afghanistan for freedom?) are not about health, but about trade imbalance. Afghans were growing money from a renewable resource (plant) and this had to be stopped, or owned. Cocaine is no different it is banned because it does not grow well in the US. Poisonous addictive drugs like tobacco that grow well in the US are exported, while poisonous addictive drugs that grow in Columbia are banned. MONEY MONEY MONEY. And Marijuana is outlawed for the same reason whiskey was taxed. To keep Americans from having an economic system that is free of the dollar, that competes with the dollar.
The War On Drugs is complete utter waste of everything, with the top two being people and money. It's the old case of you can't legislate morality. We choose which morals to enforce as criminal acts, we choose carefully. Murder is one crime that tops the list that no one argues we must enforce and enforce with a vengeance. This is where justice is crucial to the social contract we all agreed to and entered into because we were born here.
But drug addiction, this is a health issue just like alcoholism (which is a powerful drug), this is a human condition, and yes, some of us are weaker than others when it comes to self control and drugs. Addicts need treatment and sometimes it should be forced as a last resort. But housing them in jails was always a mistake and we pay tons of money warehousing them with low life scum rags who steal, murder, pillage, and physically assault others. Some people belong in jail, drug addicts never did.
It is a tragedy in this country, it started with Nixon, and Reagan doubled down in a very big way, and every year since we spend more than the last. This is ratchet and it is here that our government screwed us.
And, also, although the **Republicans are bigger pricks on this issue**, but the dems aren't clean and they cater to Americans who are all frenzied up about drug feigns roaming the streets pillaging so they love it. (I heard one republican say his cure for the drug problem was this, you get caught with a marijuana joint, we cut your head off and stick it on top of pole and line the streets with these misguided mj smokers. These heads on the top of these poles. His constituents must have loved him for this.)
It was the early 80s, the drug war had reached a fever pitch, everyone thought Reagan was going kick ass and stop these dirty drug habits right in their track. He began even claiming success. Than the CRACK War came, blood in the streets, Uzis, AK-47s, Macs. We went to War. Mexico is doing this now.
Anyway, this is a sore subject for me and it really does go the point that what Americans WANT Americans GET, they wanted a drug war and by God they got it. Whoop ti do. If you were a politician saying slow down, you lost your election. Tough on the War On Drugs, your in. Such bullshit!!!
Any way we're still knee deep in the shit. No one wants to talk about it anymore. They arrest more pot smokers then ever before in history and most here probably don't realize this. Also, it makes the police more money to go after pot smokers, and it a negative cash flow to go after murders. So, you never guess, they let the murders go and go after the pot smokers to make money for the dept. I bullshit you not. Nobody watches this or cares.
The current rate nationally for solving murders has dropped by 10% to around 60%, it used to 70%. DNA tests, forensics, all cost big money. Do the math. Make money, spend money.
Sound familiar! Money before people! Follow the MONEY, Follow the MONEY!!!
This post is a rarity in here. No one really brought it up. It belongs here. We can save one hell of alot money if we stop the war on drugs. legalize MJ and all the soft drugs. And regulate the hard drugs very strictly. Those are dangerous and some, like crack are the most highly drugs known to man.
I'm glad for a discussion here. It's another one surrounded by mythology and uninformed people who don't understand these addicts and so have no empathy. They just as soon as kill the addict because their just weak humans anyway, rugged Individualism. Hitler employed those methods.
Anyway, carry on, I'd like to see if this gains some good posts. You know where I stand. It's a can of worms!!!
I agree with the drugs being a health problem and not a criminal problem. Drug use is an attempt by individuals to make themselves feel good. To me this falls under the pursuit of happiness. The social and criminal problem comes when some individuals with low morals decide it is okay to steal from others to get high. This has nothing to do with the drugs themselves, and all to do with the quality of the parents of the individual.It does not matter what commodity the individual has come to desire. The individual either believes in getting it by earning it or by stealing it. Our banks and governments steal it.
I agree totally. Your right. It's the same as with alcohol, it should be legal as it is. But drink and drive, cause harm to someone, then you are behaving badly. The behavior is the crime. It the same with guns. Handled responsibly they are a tool essentially. But go around indiscriminately killing we have a huge problem with bad behavior in a horrible tragic way. It all comes down to balances. Our current balance is just out of whack. It's insanity the way Einstein defined it.
Good Luck, this post needs to stay up!! Thanks!
The second amendment was put there to protect the other rights with or without the help of government. Foreign observers see our protests and cannot understand why we do not just shoot the cops. After all we have 5 guns for every man woman and child in America. The reason is, we are a people that try to negotiate first. This is not a trait or non-representative government shares with us. If this goes on too long with no resolution sooner or later one side or the other will fire a shot. The result will not be pretty. The government thinks it has superior firepower, but it is broke ass Americans that joined the military because they could not find a good job behind the triggers. Many of the National Guard bases are staffed by the Militias of the states they are in. They believe that they have more control than they really have.
Bong up, dude.
California has effectively legalized pot.