Forum Post: NEW FORUM - Occupy Revolution Network
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 13, 2011, 1:44 a.m. EST by escort
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Announcement
Greetings all, we have set up a new forum with improved organization at
We encourage everyone to use this forum to help keep everyone in sync. In solidarity.
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Start singing. I recommend "I'm proud to be an American. Where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget those who died, who gave that right to me. And I'll gladly stand up. Next to you. And defend her. Here. Today. For there ain't no doubt, I love this land. Gawd bless the USA!"
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OccupyWallSt to send $20,000 + 100 tents to #OccupyOakland for legal and medical. http://www.occupyr.com/News/thread.php?id=350
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sorry that is so long, just liked your new forum and wanted to share an article i wrote today. Lots of talented people donating time and skills:) here is a song too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzY6S8KbSmc
“The Lying Game” By James Weston It is somewhat ironic how many films have been recently released depicting zombies, a giant army of mindless cannibals that feed on the living in an attempt to destroy humanity. A classic example of art imitating life. In this model, the powerful corporations act as the disease. A majority of people, very easily controlled, are the Zombies. Finally, you have a small percent of people, who have found out the truth, and they are the hunted.
It is overwhelmingly obvious to anyone seeking actual information on events happening throughout this nation and the world in general, can find a disconnection from reality in the mainstream media. Spin and opinion based articles are scattered across the pages of the largest news sources. Headlines from television news broadcasting companies can be grossly devoid of facts. Political parties run entire campaigns on “catch phrases” and image enhancement by public relations firms. All of this propaganda is churned out and packaged, intended to confuse and divide the people of the United States of America. This model has worked wonders for the ones in charge the past few decades. We the People are fish on a line, and Big Business is having a feast.
All of that began to change with the inclusion of the Internet, a free source of knowledge for all. Technology has been playing a major role in the ability for groups of people to connect, to gather facts and ideas, and to speak out about injustices. So far in 2011, there have been widespread protests that span the globe. Mass marches against injustice have been possible, fueled by different websites. The world stood and watched as Egyptians took to the streets to attempt to win back their rights from a government that they felt, did not have their best interests at heart. They were successful. And here we sat in the U.S. surfing channels of “reality TV” and un-biased opinion based news programs. I think it is safe to say that the majority of Americans are unhappy with the way our government in recent years. From policy, to bailouts, to private lobbyists infecting the ears of those whose job it is to listen to us and act on our behalf, we have become disillusioned. Occupy Wall Street has brought to attention some glaring flaws in our system, and our society. Peaceful protests in cities around the country have flared up. It is not surprising at all that most of the mainstream media outlets have condemned these protests, and have tried to deface them in any way possible. This opinion based journalisms objective is to confuse, incite, and separate us. How can this be allowed to happen, we ask ourselves. They won’t answer us. Courses of Intellectual Self Defense, a phrase coined by Noam Chomsky, explains how actual change can occur. “(It) means you have to develop an independent mind, and work on it. Now that’s extremely hard to do alone. The beauty of our system is that it isolates everybody. Each person is sitting alone in front of the tube. It’s very hard to have ideas or thoughts under those kinds of circumstances. You can’t fight the world alone.” Noam Chomsky goes on to say, “The way to do it is through organization. So, courses of intellectual self-defense will have to be in the context of political, and other organizations.” What he is talking about is now possible to realize as an average, everyday American. We must use the Internet to search for truth, watch videos and documentaries, and most importantly, talk to other people. It is easy to get lethargic and glossed over, we have so many distractions. That is the way our society is controlled. Keep the sheep blind, deaf, and dumb is the motto of Washington.
Yet hope still exists for the betterment of humanity. This is the question we must ask ourselves. And, just as in the film “The Matrix”, we must each one decide which pill to take. Will you choose the blue pill or the red pill? Will you decide for yourself or have the 1% tell you what to decide? Will you wake up or stay in bed? The alarm is ringing. Don’t ignore it. A new dawn rises in this once great country, time for the people to get back to work.
Make the forum look as similar as this one except the labels, news live stream, forum chat, user map should be all issues where we can discuss solutions.
sorry, i'm not clear on what you're asking. are you saying to remove the labels, news live stream, forum chat, etc., or to add a place where we can discuss solutions to those pages?
Citibank arrests customers for closing their account . Youtube documents it firsthand. Ridiculous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3kiaJ1-c8&feature=colike
That is an awesome site, I recommend everyone check it out. Also, take a moment to support the occupation movement and its artists. Thanks and God bless! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reazEr_AIBk
Hi everyone, we congratulate you on your struggle! Here's a youtube link to a OWS video we made with its own marching them composed to compliment the "we are the 99%" chant Hope it's useful: http://youtu.be/gLTWajxuZHU
Okay, forums and activism are something I understand VERY well.------
I document cognitive infiltration and the post 9-11 psyops here. http://algoxy.com/poly/nwo_cognitive_infiltration.html http://algoxy.com/psych/whatis9-11disinfo-sitemap.html
Accordingly, IF we were able to expose cognitive infiltration, http://politics.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/ on a web forum, it would be optimum for all of us to see it happen. MEANING, we all need to stay on this forum UNTIL we are able to recognize cognitive infiltrations and structure ourselves so that infiltations are exceedingly difficult to pull off.--------
How we do this is by using our HUMAN VALUES, because our opposition cannot use those to defend its infiltration into our government or our society:) ----
then, with that invulnerability, we proceed to lead the nation into an Article V convention.
I've heard about the Article V thing. Can you explain what this is to me in human terms?
In human terms it is majority control over the operation and principles of the republic, or the constitution that carries the principles. It is every Americans first constituional right.
Please ask for more explanation if you need it.
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
Article. V.
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.------
Most important, is that Truth be shared so the democratic action by the public can form quality decisions for voting, then the election system needs reform. We can do anything.
Okay, so it's a way to basically change the Constitution (by adding Amendments).
I don't see how this is useful if we need to get two-thirds votes from BOTH Congress and Senate. These political bodies consist of the same corrupt politicians (Republicans and Democrats) that would never have the courage to side with us. They care too much about their government-sponsored paychecks.
Read it like this:-) Congress, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments . . .
The states have made 32 applications by one interpretation and 700 by another. Congress wasn't even counting until this lawsuit. Lots of resources on this page. http://algoxy.com/poly/article_v_convention.html It is constitutional law implied by the use of the words "two thirds" that congress count the applications. Congress did not. Congress did not use the 9th amendment and the 14th amendment to interpret Article V ignoring 700 applications for amendment by the states.-------
At any rate, 2 more states and by the most strict interpretation congress must act. They avoided Article V like this.-----
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_to_propose_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution "Congress acted preemptively to propose the amendments instead. At least four amendments (the Seventeenth, Twenty-First, Twenty-Second, and Twenty-Fifth Amendments) have been identified as being proposed by Congress at least partly in response to the threat of an Article V convention."
Citizens need to use ballot initatives to compel state legislations. If that is not an option, demand and demonstrations at state offices are justified at this point.
Some key features of the new forum:
http://www.occupyr.com/
this looks really great!
there are photos too.
've said it before, and I'll say it again: One of the main pillars of Conservative propaganda is that both parties are the same. Nothing they say is further from the truth. It is an insidious lie intended to demoralize progressives, and discourage them from voting. Do not fall for this canard, because if both parties are the same, there is no hope for change, and therefore no reason to vote. The truth is that there is a difference between the parties. A stark difference! One party works for the rich, the other party works for all Americans. One party takes money from the needy to feed the greedy, and the other party takes money from the greedy to feed the needy. One party has plans and policies to create jobs, and the other party has a long list of lame excuses for not doing anything. Liberals want to change things. Conservatives want things to stay the same. There is a difference. One party wants to tax the rich, and the other party wants to tax the poor. One party wants to destroy Unions, and the other party wants to support them. One party supports the Occupation of Wall Street, and the other party doesn’t. One party wants to rebuild America, and the other party doesn’t. One party wants to provide health care for all, and the other party doesn’t. One party wants to regulate Wall Street, and the other party doesn’t. One Party wants to end the wars; the other party wants them to go on forever. There is a difference. One party is Myopic, and the other party is Far Sighted. One party wants to help the Middle Class, and the other party is at war with the Middle Class. One party wants to fire Teachers, and the other party wants to hire them. One party wants to create more jobs in America, and the other party wants to create more jobs in Asia. There is a difference. One party wants to protect pensions, and the other party wants to loot them. One party has a heart, and the other party has Ann Coulter. One party protects the right bear Arms, and the other party protects the right of freedom of assembly. One party believes that the only role for the Government is to provide for the common defense, and the other party believes that the Government should also promote the general Welfare. There is a difference, and anybody that tells you there is no difference between the parties is simply not conversant with reality. In addition, anyone that blames the Democrats for the current state of affairs has no understanding of who controls the Government. One Party has the Presidency, and the other party has the Majority in the House, controls the Senate, has a majority on the Supreme Court, and is responsible for current economic policy. So, if you’re angry, and you want to start a real fight, I submit that we should start a real fight with the Conservatives! America has a Two Party System. One party is clearly on your side, the other party thinks you’re and Anti-American mob. At some point in time you’re going to have to pick one. Choose wisely, your future is at stake reply permalink edit delete
The two political parties in this country have been playing good-cop / bad-cop for a very, very long time.
They both represent the rich.
If the two parties are different, then how come Obama isn't rallying behind this movement as a vessel for the change he supposedly stood for and wanted? Because both parties take major campaign contributions, and lobbyists don't just visit one side of the aisle. I suggest you wake up good, sir, because we could no doubt use you in the chase toward some REAL change that we don't have to just believe in, but can fashion with our own efforts.
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+all the stuff money actually buys (and some of the stuff it doesn't).
I got two lines in, and you are obviously a left propagandist. Let me tell you the truth
Both parties are the same, yet appear different.
Republicans appear to help Americans by fighting for smaller government and bigger business.
Democrats appear to help Americans with bigger government and more social plans.
BOTH work for the rich through handouts, bribery, and campaign donations.
Two sides of the same coin, just look how useless and corrupt Obama has become.
Exactly
A vote for either party is a vote for Wall St.
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Downvote for misspelling both words in your two word contribution (even if it was intentional - some things just really aren't art).
Nice reporting
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I thinking making improvements to this forum, without limiting free speech (except hate speech), would be better (although I love your suggested improvements), but what we most immediately need is a comprehensive strategy, and related candidate, that implements all our demands at the same time, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategic Legal Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:
http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures
Join
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/
if you want to be 1 of 100,000 people needed to support a Presidential Candidate – such as myself or another you'd like to draft – at AmericansElect.org in support of the above bank-focused platform.
Candidates cant do anything for us.
Any candidate, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet; it's the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves within, in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing & Group Investment Power, that's important. Sequence is always the key to completing your goals.
There are Natural Social Laws -- in sequence -- that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You MUST follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.
The first step of Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters yourselves. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.
They are the Candidates (or Leaders), just as you must ALL be if you are to CONTROL them.
So read and think critically about the 1st link and then join the 2nd link and then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within that strategy.
Since my job was outsourced to India I've been either not employed or under employed. WHY ARE OUR JOBS OVERSEAS?? Corporate America is getting richer and the PEOPLE of the USA are getting so poor we can't live a decent life!
Watch this video regarding the GATT treaty - it explains precisely why jobs are no more and why it will only get worse.
This is how they moved the USA’s economic engine offshore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQrz8F0dBI&feature=related
De-industrialization was planned.
So-called "free-trade" agreements are designed to shift money, power and jobs offshore.
Congress knew jobs would go overseas but they didn't care.
It's capitalism mixed with globalization. Over time, work conditions will degrade to the cheapest labor in the world, you're competing with third world countries...
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The occupy movement is scattered at the moment. For instance, we have little idea on this forum what the occupySF group thinks. OccupyR is a project that tries to help add some unity and organize all the voices. There are also subcategories, location based forums, search, votable posts, and so forth.
Yet another new forum. Probably hosted by some guy from Pakistan looking to make a few bucks off the movement. Good going bright spark.
It's independently developed. See the about page.
You're starting a Revolution?
Sorry, friend...I love America and will not watch others destroy it.
America is already destroyed, it needs to be saved.
or so you say...
Unfortunately for your little Revolution, you gonna need to convince 150+ million Americans, the majority of which are Center-Right, that you're right.
good luck!
The Occupy Movement proves that "something" is wrong with America. At the moment, people are not sure exactly what it is or how to fix it, but we are trying to figure it out. One reason may be that there's so much bullshit in government bureaucracy, that it's like untangling a web of lies.
You're sitting quite smug, but your children and future generations will be the ones to suffer. You have a chance to make a difference this moment. Looking back, which road did you want to say you took?
I'm not smug about anything. I'm a Realist.
There will be no Revolution in America. You simply do not have the numbers on your side.
So, you can vote to change things.
Which I fully agree with.
Though I suspect who we vote for and our solutions to these problems are quite different.
To be honest, I don't think a simple ballot vote will change anything. It will set up some timid rules that will eventually be bypassed, or other loopholes will be found.
The very same corrupt politicians are counting on us to be like quiet lambs, voting quietly at our polls. They don't actually care.
As for revolution, it always begins as an idea. Forget about the numbers. If enough of us stand up, others will find the courage in themselves to stand up as well.
I think the convincing has already been done.
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/conservatives-and-liberals-agree-end-malignant-symbiotic-relationship-between-big-govern
Conservatives and Liberals Agree: End the Malignant, Symbiotic Relationship Between Big Government and Big Corporations
"While many pretend that liberals and conservatives are too far apart to work together, there are actually many issues on which everyone can agree.
For example, both liberals and conservatives hate the malignant, symbiotic relationship between big government and big corporations:
Conservatives tend to view big government with suspicion, and think that government should be held accountable and reined in.
Liberals tend to view big corporations with suspicion, and think that they should be held accountable and reined in.
Conservatives hate big unfettered government and liberals hate big unchecked corporations, so both hate legislation which encourages the federal government to reward big corporations at the expense of small businesses.
Most Americans – whether they are conservative or liberal – are disgusted that virtually all of the politicians are bought and paid for. No wonder people of all stripes have lost all trust in our government."
Agree, quad. Great article.
yes, many on the Right and Left see the problems...though they disagree on the solutions.
The Left wants Bigger Govt The Right wants Smaller Govt
And then many of the OWS fringe want an end to Capitalism and a Revolution....which ain't happening no chance in hell.
So then we'll see you at the protest then?
nah...yelling at buildings ain't my thing.
I'll see you at the voting booth though.
If you are voicing your opinions virtually online, then you owe it to yourself to voice your opinions in person. That's how it was done for centuries.
If the Republicans win the Senate and the white house next year destruction will be complete.
Democrats and Republicans are both just as corrupt when it comes to money. The politicians have already sold out, their promises empty. I want to see some teachers, professors, scientists on the list of candidates for president. The whole system's rotten.
That last point I agree with. I'd love to see some economists actually in government (Ron Paul is not an economist he's a fraud). But, I trust Democrats more they seem to be genuinely trying to fix this mess unlike Republicans who are trying to score political points by obstructing the recovery. Sorry but that's the truth.
Do the math...
But the GOP filibustered everything in the senate during those 2 years or are you suffering short memory loss like every other Republican?
You either lie...or forget...which is it??
I'm seem to recall during Obama's first 2 years and Dem control of Washington, them pushing through a massive Health Care Bill (ObamaCare)
And that did exactly what to help the economy and jobs??
Wow is that your delusion now? That's what your fixated on? What's the GOP plan for recovery? Do nothing. Nothing at all.
These are the facts, my friend...and they are indisputable
Don't worry, I'm a Realist and I know the majority of OWS are just Lefties who will vote for Obama again.
No worries...we'll see which side has more ppl voting in 2012.