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Forum Post: My comment on the NYPost 'Angry Manhattan residents lambast Zuccotti Park protesters' article

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 21, 2011, 4:26 a.m. EST by bozakaxel (2) from New York, NY
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Chip Parker commented on New York Post.

So... I spent 2 hours at Zuccotti just killing time and taking in the scene, and the only nasty words I heard tossed around in those cold 120 minutes came multiple times from the business people walking by. It was sad to watch, being one of them, expecting more, and being disappointed again and again. I was however quite impressed with the calm and thoughtful approach of the protestors. So many interesting people from all walks of life, with a myriad of real concerns that I would find could be boiled down to 2 key tenets.

To top off the disappointing performance by the white-collar ivey league investment bankers and assorted Wall Street cronies, some arrogant & pompous 'big business' man in his 60's was pushing his way through the crowd angrily, snarling, and finally knocked a woman out of the way while using the lord's name in a quite explicit way.

The woman was helped up by the protestors, revealing that she was wearing her Goldman Sachs fleece.

She was very thankful. And I learned the most important lesson I could in those 2 hours... about what is really going on down there. And everywhere in the world as the masses are starting to find a shared voice that says, "eh, something ain't right here."

A lot has been made about "no clear strategy", but I think that's due to liberal usage of horse blinds. It's a lot easier to not tackle the issue when you can claim it doesn't exist. (Thank you Fox News!)

These occupiers for the most part don't hate wall street or banks, (although many have clearly crossed the line of no return in believing they do not act in the general good of mankind and are systematically corrupt). They just think the system has failed. That capitalism, like socialism did in the USSR, has become corrupt. The distribution of wealth is far too vast. Prices go up all the time. People need to be paid a fair wage. Strike that. A fairer wage. The middle class needs to exist again. There is just no justifiable reason for such a small portion of mankind possessing such an astronomical amount of the wealth - a trend that has gotten worse in the last 30 years. And that's because in the last 30 years, a heavily bankrolled by the private sector representation in DC has loosey goosey'd the reigns on big business under the guise of 'free markets!', allowing those with means to work double time to keep hoarding more and more of the wealth using new ingenious securities, tricky mortgages, and betting against the market's success. An endless wide spread greed fueled by the materialism of this country. A veritable cesspool of humanity, that needs a shock to remember the importance of the brotherhood of mankind. A drive strong step in the right direction - the direction towards really differentiating homo sapiens from all other beasts that roam then world. Creating a species where offering your seat on a subway to a pregnant woman, helping a stranger in need, and simply holding the door for someone are inline with making sure that your family of employees are compensated in a way that they can live comfortably too. The social change behind this is strong, as more responsibility and reward drive employees to work harder and really feel a connection to what they do. It also will help alleviate the almost inevitable financial problems all so-called middle class families deal with, which should contribute to employees with clearer heads, more efficient, and a populous that spends and supports the economy to a new degree.

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[-] 1 points by Restorefreedomtoall1776 (272) from Bayonne, NJ 13 years ago

Never have I read a more welcome, well reasoned response to the complex situation in which all of us find ourselves who support OWS. With understanding on this level among those who wlll be among the heroes of tomorrow - to be remembered in history books of the future - we shall overcome. My friends, We Shall Ovecome!

[-] 1 points by michaelbravo (222) 13 years ago

you sound like a nice guy i sense the fine nature of the leaders from california the problems are myriad and concern foriegn policy social injustice and pollution not just the corrupt banking and political process ..we care about the earth and all the people on it..im not there but...it sounds like you got both your eyes and your heart open

[-] 1 points by bozakaxel (2) from New York, NY 13 years ago

So I'd say this is what I learned from talking to them, plain and simple:

1) Get the money out of politics for good. Only then can real change occur. When they are held accountable and in a clear and openly shared way with their constituents and no longer owe favors to the industry, lobbying and special interest groups that currently guide their decision making processes.

I don't agree with all of this article by any means, but its a good read. It's passionate, and really hits on a lot of important points about this movement in a compelling and entertaining way...

http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/95/revolution-america.html

2) Create a system where profits are more evenly distributed amongst all employees. Somebody has to do all those jobs no matter what they are, and they should be compensated much fairer then they are.

People will feel a stronger ownership of their job, and the increase in wages to the middle class will result in far more action in the marketplace and economy then a trickle down approach that jokes by suggesting the misers that have kept sucking in and privatizing more and more money are really going to spend anything substantial, only further supported by the crappy economy? The laissez-faire approach simply doesn't hold water. Just like the mafia's "unseen hand", those with means work diligently to constantly increase their worth. There needs to be a system put in place to drastically shift this horribly unequal distribution of wealth to increase general well-being and driving a stronger economy. Those at the top won't do this on their own, so most likely they will have to be made to do it. This could be the single largest social shift in the history of mankind. Not gender, no race, but wealth. An entrapment that spans across all variations of mankind. A system that has basically enslaved those without means, indenturing them with credit debt offered only to push forward the market.

American Capitalism and Democracy is still by far the fairest and best political and economic system in the world. But it has gone somewhat array at the hands of some very greedy people. And it's time we all faced up to that, have a dialogue that leads to a fairer system that still encourages growth and entrepreneurial, but also guarantees social comfort to those 99% that actually do the work everyday., and get money completely out of the political system - forcing representatives to be much more responsible on all issues to their electorate.

I mean seriously. When you first learned about the electoral college you didn't think,"what the f'!" haha its time for a more direct democracy, with responsible reps, and an economic policy and oversight that strengthens the degree to which all employees are compensated fairly for their hard work. Share the wealth and profits of your company with your employee family. Change the way things have been. Take a stand corporate America, and show your employees that you really do value what they do, just as much as your stockholders, and re-build our middle class.

This will ultimately help everyone. Trickle up time. Enough of the BS.

Angry Manhattan residents lambast Zuccotti Park protesters www.nypost.com Infuriated lower Manhattan residents went ballistic on Zuccotti Park protesters at a chaotic Community Board 1 meeting tonight while blasting politicians for allowing the siege to continue without

[-] 1 points by RobertNDavis (133) 13 years ago

the NY Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch. It's a propaganda machine.

[-] 1 points by bozakaxel (2) from New York, NY 13 years ago

propaganda or not,it spurred an interesting train of thought for me. frankly,i encourage all angles of periodicals