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Forum Post: My 2 cents, I think it's worth more but, it is mine.

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 2:07 a.m. EST by ThaBlackGuy008 (0)
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I thought the idea was to solve problems or share ideas, I just got here for the first time and all I see are the same type of threads you see everywhere online. Are we really not capable of rallying behind common sense? Is there no place left for civilized adult conversation. I mean we complain about politicians like we imported them from another planet, these people are professional actors/puppets. They argue like idiots because that's what we do. We don't respect each other enough so they don't either and everyone thinks their guy has the right idea and everyone else's ideas are shit. I don't agree with a lot of what the T party now represents but I give them and the Republican party one huge nod... they know how to move the crowd, they rally the troops, everyone stays on message, they get each others' backs, even during the debates no matter how much they disagree they all agree that anything is better than Obama. There are common sense ways to get all the "free" things that a civilized country should have. I mean come on, do you think a more advanced society is going to issues with healthcare, starvation, education, shelter. Aren't those the problems of societies that have already come and gone, or at least the problems of 3rd world and under-developed countries. Why are all these "Christ-Like" people so unlike Christ? I hope that people smarter than me can swing the momentum of this movement to addressing the problem with money and especially the control of it. This country was never intended to have a central bank and the problems with it were foretold over 100s of years ago, now we are bearing that fruit. The problems we face aren't as hard as they want you to think they are. Regardless of what you believe never believe that someone who's been allowed to see behind the curtain ever wants to allow anyone else see behind it. Money and power changes everyone, we are all human, we must remember that we're human and not sheep. The way I see it, change will only come 3 different ways. We will be heard and convince them to change things in a dramatic fashion - not likely; We will rally in a dramatic fashion and reset the board - this too is very unlikely, but, it is our strongest tool. Imagine if we as the "99%?" pulled a T party x10 and booted almost if not ALL incumbents regardless of party, just get some new people who aren't accustomed to how Washington works, or doesn't for that matter (oh and no lawyers, lawyers argue, they debate, they don't arbitrate, they don't negotiate, the best lawyers even when wrong will argue they're case just to spite and outlast). And alas, we come to the third and most likely of ways to bring about change... collapse and chaos, use your imagination, you're probably right.

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[-] 2 points by freesyria (43) 13 years ago

Your 2 cents are worth 99 cents brother!

[-] 1 points by SanityScribe (452) 13 years ago

Might I just say..... BAM!

Pay very close attention to that last option that the OP noted. For.."Out of chaos, comes order". One of the plans THEY have include mass disorder, resulting in chaos type events, leading the rest of the public demanding action. But it's too big, too many cities, must declare........_ __ ----Fill in the blanks!

Not saying it will happen, just saying ..THEY sure as hell wouldn't mind.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 13 years ago

Start the war against Injustice by starting our own banks to double the income of the Bottom 90% of Workers, for many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 1% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves, and thus doubling our income from Bank Profits which are 40% of all Corporate Profits; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:

http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategically_weighted_policies_organizational_operating_structures_tactical_investment_procedures

Join

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/

because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org in support of the above bank-focused platform.

Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Congress, and related “new” Businesses, replacing the "old" Congress, and related “old” Businesses, according to your current Occupations & Generations, called a Focused Direct Democracy.

Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet, a political opportunist; what's important is the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing Power & Group Investment Power. In this, sequence is key, and if the correct mathematical sequence is followed then it results in doubling the income of the Bottom 90% of Workers from today's Bank Profits, which are 40% of all Corporate Profits.

Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.

The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 1% Management System of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.

Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupations & Generations.

So please JOIN the 2nd link, and spread the word to as many as possible, so we can make 100,000 support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.

[-] 0 points by Mcc (542) 13 years ago

Don't fall for this psychological crap from any one percent goon. It's an obvious attempt to divert our attention from the obscene, unjust, immoral, and illogical concentration of wealth. Donald Trump went on record the other day telling us to blame the government instead of Wall Street and the richest one percent. Don't fall for it. Just keep protesting no matter what the one percent goons say or do. Our message is vital. Below is my two cents:

We have been mislead by Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, and nearly every other public figure. Economic growth, job creation, and actual prosperity are not necessarily a package deal. In fact, the first two are horribly misunderstood. Economic growth/loss (GDP) is little more than a measure of wealth changing hands. A transfer of currency from one party to another. The rate at which it is traded. This was up until mid ’07′ however, has never been a measure of actual prosperity. Neither has job creation. The phrase itself has been thrown around so often, and in such a generic political manner, that it has come to mean nothing. Of course, we need to have certain things done for the benefit of society as a whole. We need farmers, builders, manufacturers, transporters, teachers, cops, firefighters, soldiers, mechanics, sanitation workers, doctors, managers, and visionaries. Their work is vital. I’ll even go out on a limb and say that we need politicians, attorneys, bankers, investors, and entertainers. In order to keep them productive, we must provide reasonable incentives. We need to compensate each by a fair measure for their actual contributions to society. We need to provide a reasonable scale of income opportunity for every independent adult, every provider, and share responsibility for those who have a legitimate need for aid. In order to achieve and sustain this, we must also address the cost of living and the distribution of wealth. Here, we have failed miserably. The majority have already lost their home equity, their financial security, and their relative buying power. The middle class have actually lost much of their ability to make ends meet, re-pay loans, pay taxes, and support their own economy. The lower class have gone nearly bankrupt. In all, its a multi-trillion dollar loss taken over about 30 years. Millions are under the impression that we need to create more jobs simply to provide more opportunity. as if that would solve the problem. It won’t. Not by a longshot. Jobs don’t necessarily create wealth. In fact, they almost never do. For the mostpart, they only transfer wealth from one party to another. A gain here. A loss there. Appreciation in one community. Depreciation in another. In order to create net wealth, you must harvest a new resource or make more efficient use of one. Either way you must have a reliable and ethical system in place to distribute that newly created wealth in order to benefit society as a whole and prevent a lagging downside. The ‘free market’ just doesn’t cut it. Its a farce. Many of the jobs created are nothing but filler. The promises empty. Sure, unemployment reached an all-time low under Bush. GDP reached an all-time high. But those are both shallow and misleading indicators. In order to gauge actual prosperity, you must consider the economy in human terms. As of ’08′ the average American was working more hours than the previous generation with far less equity to show for it. Consumer debt, forclosure, and bankruptcy were also at all-time highs. As of ’08′, every major American city was riddled with depressed communities, neglected neighborhoods, failing infrastructures, lost revenue, and gang activity. All of this has coincided with massive economic growth and job creation. Meanwhile, the rich have been getting richer and richer and richer even after taxes. Our nation’s wealth has been concentrated. Again, this represents a multi-trillion dollar loss taken by the majority. Its an absolute deal breaker. Bottom line: With or without economic growth or job creation, you must have a system in place to prevent too much wealth from being concentrated at the top. Unfortunately, we don’t. Our economy has become nothing but a giant game of Monopoly. The richest one percent already own nearly 1/2 of all United States wealth. More than double their share before Reagan took office. Still, they want more. They absolutely will not stop. Now, our society as a whole is in serious jeapordy. Greed kills.