Forum Post: Mr. President - with ALL DUE Respect - FUCK YOU !!!
Posted 11 years ago on Feb. 25, 2013, 2:15 p.m. EST by DKAtoday
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from Coon Rapids, MN
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Your stance on reacting doing something to decrease pollution in response to global warming is pure BULLSHIT.
How the fuck do you expect us ( the Public ) to buy the fact that you say you are concerned and that we need to make changes starting now to end OUR contributions to Global Warming Pollution.
When in Fact you are worsening our contributions to pollution - by opening up more land and areas to drilling and fracking. When we already have what we need. YOU are opening up land to fossil fuel raping for profits/money so that this dirty industry can export the environmental and people killer products.
PURE PROFIT MOTIVATION
YOUR STANCE ON COMBATING GLOBAL WARMING IS PURE BULLSHIT
This includes mountain top removal mining. You know of the clean water act? Is this not expressly what it was to address? So why is it not enacted here? ( private money interests? )
entropy or the move towards disorder is easier than creating order
if society follows the path of least resistance;
the place gets messy
I like to add: Mr. Prez, for all that DKA' stated, and all so much more, a double Fuck You from me.
Hi DKA, Just had to log in for a moment and say, Good Work. Best Regards, Nevada
Will be banned in about 5 minutes.
Hey Nevada - I hope it "IS" You - you have been missed. Thx for the thumbs up on the post to tell the president that we are not fooled by his BS anti-pollution fight global warming stance.
MODS !! It is Nevada1, DKA! He was banned about 6/7 weeks ago, if you can imagine. He's been trying to get back on ever since. He manages to get on with a new moniker, only to be banned within a few minutes. Unbelievable. He is a well liked and fair poster here. I can't imagine what he could have done that would result in a permanent ban. I can think of a few here that would be more likely candidates for bans than Nevada1, although I don't think that should happen either. Unfair. I'd like to put in a request, for the Mods to reconsider Nevada1.
I am with you. It is bizarre to think that anyone could have even one single reason to Ban Nevada1. He has always been supportive and never combative. What reason could anyone possibly have to Ban Him?
I knew you would agree DKA. I'm hoping that comment to the mods will get twinkled enough to get in the best comments, so it stays visible for not only the mods to see, but for the forum members who don't know about the ban and may think Nevada1 is just taking time off the forum. He isn't...he wants to be here, and we need to rally for him. He always cheered on his support when he believed in us.
People - Support Nevada1
That he should be banned is absurd.
Solidarity @ Nevada1. Best regards, Nevada. You have been nothing but a stellar supporter of Occupy for the past year and we miss you.
This is why we need a community made and run website, so that bans and other touchy decisions can be made by the community, and not some super moderator in his high chair. How ironic that anarchists talked about dismantling hierarchy for so long and now they are at the top of this website's pyramid acting like our Gods.
Let us all send in a request to the forum site to ask why Nevada1 has been banned.
I think I love you!
Gawrsh shucks hyuck ( kicking at dirt with toe )
Lolol! Thanks DKA...Nevada1 is watching, and he sees your support.
He should have every supporter of OWS/Occupy support. I can not imagine a single reason for him to get banned - he is not that person = needing to be banned.
Reinstate nevada Please! Ok. Done.
This is why we need a community made and run website, so that bans and other touchy decisions can be made by the community, and not some super moderator in his high chair. How ironic that anarchists talked about dismantling hierarchy for so long and now they are at the top of this website's pyramid acting like our Gods.
Support a Bridge to the Ground.
Let's give Internet users the power of Occupy action!
Sell your spin somewhere else trashy.
Banning should be fair and at least discussed with the accused.
Maybe judged by a jury of our peers.
Let's ask for real "legal" reform on "our" forum.
I think it likely that the site is not responsible for Nevada1's banning or participation difficulties - I think it much more likely that trashy or another forum attacker like trashy is attacking Nevada1 when he logs in.
That being said - the forum site admin is in the best position to see the attacks happening and intervene.
interesting, and disturbing. Like others here I just can't imagine any reason to "ban" Nev1. And for the same reason the trashy one wouldn't appear to have an adequate reason for attack.
In any event the ban process could use reform.
This is why we need a community made and run website, so that bans and other touchy decisions can be made by the community, and not some super moderator in his high chair. How ironic that anarchists talked about dismantling hierarchy for so long and now they are at the top of this website's pyramid acting like our Gods.
So what was the reason he was banned? Is it published? Who is the "great banner" in charge? Dissenting commentary or differing opinion should never be a reason for banishment.
I am not at all certain that the site banned him.
But I would like the site to look into it.
I think it likely that he has been targeted for attack by one of the forum attackers.
Tell him to do the right thing.
http://signon.org/sign/mr-president-end-arctic?source=c.url&r_by=6731446
Absolutely = signed and TWEETED
May others share/circulate as well.
Mr. President: End Arctic Drilling Now http://signon.org/s/yg3RkH @signon 4 YOUR Consideration! pls SHARE/CIRCULATE.
If only Al Gore had gotten Ralph Nader's endorsement, oh well, I wouldn't plan on civilization lasting a long time if I were you. If 2000 taught us anything it's that people both inside and outside the government simply don't give climate change the level of attention it deserves, it they did Gore would have been President and we would be addressing this problem, we aren't because we don't want to. Your anger would be better directed at the America people in this case, though I do agree this is a area where leadership would be useful.
Good post, DKA. You tell 'em.
Hey BW - long time no chat. Glad that love can agree with this post. {:-])
There is no issue more important than the environment. It trumps all the other issues. And, hey, my love comments have been voted way into the negative. You can relate to that, lol, being the target of haters and fear mongerers.
DKAtoday is part of the Twinkle Team. They vote each other up, and vote others down. Without even reading their comments!
He gave himself a +10 in a matter of minutes. Such is the way of the Twinkle Team.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/mr-president-with-all-due-respect-fuck-you/#comment-935544
You are just jealous. There is no such thing.
Jealous of what? Points don't matter. Only ideas do. I also gave a point to that comment as I want the moderators to see it. Who knows, perhaps they will respond and tell us why Nevada was banned. It's a long shot, but who knows.
If points don't matter then why discuss your fabricated "twinkle team" all the time?
Exactly. Sooner or later the old troll has got to whine about karma.
For entertainment purposes. I don't discuss that all the time, just when I want to have some gratuitous fun. Iv'e mostly been discussing my idea of a Bridge to the Ground. And, if you followed my comments you'll have noticed I often talked about how the point system should be eliminated because it creates a false hierarchy. New users are often attacked simply because of points. And, many people create sock puppets simply to manipulate votes. It's a lot of overhead on the system for nothing.
I think it likely that you or a shill/troll like you has tagged Nevada1 so that when he shows up you attack him.
To what purpose? Same as your purpose has always been to disrupt this forum to sow discontent and divisiveness.
Again - why Nevada1? Because he is a constant positive individual on this forum.
Yep - I can relate - but you being attacked for being an out and out positive individual is soooooo ludicrous.
And I look at it this way - too - my post is tough love. {:-]) As it needs to be said - truth needs to be spoken to power.
Always speak truth to power. You said right there what needs to be said. The trolls on this forum are a joke. I honestly don't know how they look in a mirror with their sick worldviews of fear mongering, spoil and hate.
It goes to explain their sour attitude - as they have got to somewhere inside hate themselves for opposing health and prosperity for all.
Yes, DKA, greed and hate and a lack of compassion comes from a dark place inside of a person. I agree that they must, in a very deep place, hate themselves. Well said.
They can still save themselves - they can still change - they can still grow and realize truth/happiness/love/contentment. Hey?
I agree. I'm trying to reach them, lolol.
I know - I see you doing your best to reach out.
Perhaps you will be able to spark that necessary 1st moment of honest self examination in them.
The Revolution is Love:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtc-k6dhgs&playnext=1&list=PL1B509EE4CBEC3ADA&feature=results_video
Never give up. It is never too late.
That is a very good video to share/circulate.
It says it all, right?
So much more is possible - then is allowed for - in their philosophy.
[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (12402) 0 minutes ago
Charles Eisenstein has a video on Sacred Economics, too. It's a very good philosophical way of looking at economics and something we better start doing if we want to improve things for the masses. TPTB want us to believe that economics is a science. It is not. It is a social science, and therefore, very subjective and more of an art than a science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEZkQv25uEs ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
aw yes
the good ol' art excuse
It is very good to see a young person who cares, however much is reveled when at 9:35 he moves directly from saying that civilization was a mistake to praising the thoughts generated by the picture of the Earth taken from space. The way forward and the path to peace is The Middle Way.
Monstrous to think - that life can be hobbled by an abstract concept - money.
[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (12402) 0 minutes ago
It's revolutionary. That's what makes it important. Charles Eisenstein is an economist philosopher. Just what we need more of. The study of economics is antiquated and needs to be revamped with younger, more forward thinking people. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
It is, though, and that is what people don't understand. The way money is manipulated affects us to our core and it doesn't have to be a negative affect, the way it is today. We can have a sacred economy and a more peaceful, loving world. It is not far fetched. It is possible.
Good Food For Thought. Thx for sharing.
Internal/External Me/You We/They Me/World We/World
Understanding starts at self but is not complete without all.
[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (12402) 8 minutes ago
Charles Eisenstein has a video on Sacred Economics, too. It's a very good philosophical way of looking at economics and something we better start doing if we want to improve things for the masses. TPTB want us to believe that economics is a science. It is not. It is a social science, and therefore, very subjective and more of an art than a science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEZkQv25uEs ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
It's revolutionary. That's what makes it important. Charles Eisenstein is an economist philosopher. Just what we need more of. The study of economics is antiquated and needs to be revamped with younger, more forward thinking people.
It is a clean communication - it is a start - being imperfect - there is always more that can be said - but that video is a good communication - start.
Charles Eisenstein has a video on Sacred Economics, too. It's a very good philosophical way of looking at economics and something we better start doing if we want to improve things for the masses. TPTB want us to believe that economics is a science. It is not. It is a social science, and therefore, very subjective and more of an art than a science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEZkQv25uEs
Yes - we can all stop being victims of smoke and mirrors. True awakening.
[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (12402) 0 minutes ago
It is, though, and that is what people don't understand. The way money is manipulated affects us to our core and it doesn't have to be a negative affect, the way it is today. We can have a sacred economy and a more peaceful, loving world. It is not far fetched. It is possible. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
His stance on everything is bullshit he is just another corporate boot-lick out to get rich for himself on the backs of the American working class. He is Romney in sheep's clothing.
No - I can appreciate your comment - but - Mittens would have been so much worse for the country.
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why is that ? he is putting all of Mitt's plans into action
list them and show where it was mittens plan.
Healthcare? The mandate and fines and the idea to filter universal coverage through the insurance companies - were initiated by Mitt in Mass (Mass by the way has the highest wealth gap in the nation and the entire government is corrupt which is why they compromised - they all have the insurance industry in their pockets even the good ol boy governor). Um expanding trade polices around the globe that will further cripple the working class while handing WS a pot of gold. I could go on and on here - but I just don't have the will - fuck em all - let's just overthrow these corrupt bastards and be done with it. A little known secret about all these subsidies in Mass is that they benefit Mafia run corporations (like Nursing Homes) and hospitals and development corporations - none of it is done for upward mobility sake - it's all done to feed big corporate pockets and earn a nice parachuted position after the term is up - also they know where to invest their stock - especially when they know who they're giving it to. Old ladies in Mass live in complexes now with single mothers and crying babies (single mothers who meet the guidelines get free college and housing for a rate of $1500.00 a month that goes to the landlord trust company that owns it while she gets free school at a college that ups it's tuition because they know they will just hand that big fat bill over to the state and fed. They even have state paid for daycares in the schools now. But yet all those graduates still won't get jobs due to our fucked up trade policies and downsize this nation - it's all a big scam giveaway designed to look like it's lifting people up when all it does is bring everyone down and make the rich richer and politicians Millionaires.
Health care? The ACA is a mess that was foisted on the public as it was the only thing that was given enough support to pass - and that was after it was even further fucked up by repub/rino/corpoRatists before they would support it.
Mittens was against even the original which he passed as governor.
We need a real universal health care program - which cuts out ins companies 100% from the health care process.
yep but Obama didn't do that instead he took the mandate to the supreme court (try getting fined because you work full time but didn't have insurance for a while when you switched jobs but made too much the previous year to qualify as exempt and couldn't afford your own insurance while your paycheck was being withheld for the first few weeks or month - it's a tax too so you will not escape it - the IRS gets involved.
Bottom Line.
The People Need To Get Involved if there is ever gonna be positive change and growth for the People.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/20/1188404/-Pres-Obama-s-Big-Oil-weekend-host-s-history-of-war-profiteering-discrimination
Donating will get you everywhere.
You know of the clean water act? Is this not expressly what it was to address? So why is it not enacted here? ( private money interests? )
Ya.
Makes me want to beat them all with a stick - tar and feather em - and run em out of the country on a rail.
Bernie knows
Dear Citizen,
Unless we take bold action to reverse climate change, our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren are going to look back on this period in history and ask a very simple question: Where were they? Why didn't the United States of America, the most powerful nation on earth, lead the international community in cutting greenhouse gas emissions and preventing the devastating damage that the scientific community was sure would come?
The issue that we are dealing with is not political. It has nothing to do with the squabbling we see in Washington every day. It has everything to do with physics. The leading scientists in the world who study climate change now tell us that their earlier projections were wrong. The crisis facing our planet is much worse than they had thought only a few years ago. 12 out of the last 15 years ranked as the warmest on record in the United States. Now, scientists say that our planet could be eight degrees Fahrenheit warmer or more by the end of this century if we take no decisive action to transform our energy system and cut greenhouse gas emissions.
What would that mean to planet earth? Sea levels would rise by three to six feet, which would flood cities like New Orleans, Boston and Miami and coastal communities all over the world. It would mean that every year we would see more and more extreme weather disturbances, like Hurricanes Irene and Sandy, costing taxpayers tens of billions of dollars every year and resulting in devastating blows to our economy and productive capabilities.
We would see the price of food go up because crops in the US and around the world would be affected by temperatures substantially greater than what we have today. It would mean greater threats of war and international instability because hungry and thirsty people would be fighting for limited resources. It would mean more disease and unnecessary deaths.
Legislation that I introduced (pdf) with the support of leading environmental organizations in the country can actually address the crisis and do what has to be done to protect the planet. Senator Barbara Boxer of California, chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, co-sponsored the bill that would reverse greenhouse gas emissions in a significant way. It also would help create millions of jobs as we transform our energy system away from fossil fuel and into energy efficiency and such sustainably energies as wind, solar, geothermal and biomass.
A major focus of this legislation is a price on carbon and methane emissions. This fee on the largest fossil-fuel polluters affects fewer than 3,000 entities nationwide but covers 85% of the greenhouse gas emissions in the US, according to the Congressional Research Service. The legislation ends fossil fuel subsidies. It also protects communities by requiring that drillers engaged in a new technology called fracking must comply with the Safe Drinking Water Act and disclose chemicals they use.
To help consumers, 60% of the carbon fee revenue will be rebated to every US resident. To level the playing field for US manufacturers and create incentives for international cooperation, there would be a border fee on imported fuels and products unless the nation they were shipped from had a similar carbon price.
To transform our energy system, the legislation would make the boldest ever investment in energy efficiency and sustainable energy. That includes weatherizing one million homes a year, as President Obama has advocated. It also means tripling the budget for advanced research and investing hundreds of billions through incentives and a public-private Sustainable Technologies Fund focusing on energy efficiency and clean transportation technology, as well as solar, wind, geothermal and biomass alternatives.
In our bill, we also provide funds to train workers for jobs in the sustainable energy economy and to help communities become resilient in the face of extreme weather. We accomplish all of this while paying down the debt by roughly $300 billion over ten years.
With President Obama's commitment in the state of the union address to reverse global warming, we have the opportunity now to make progress. The president must use his executive authority to cut down on power plant pollution and reject the dangerous Keystone XL project. But he must not give up on a comprehensive legislative solution, and neither should we.
We will never fully deal with this crisis until Congress passes strong legislation. Senator Boxer and I are going to fight as hard as we can to do that, and we will work to rally support from American families all across this country that care deeply about their children and grandchildren's future, and want to protect them from this planetary crisis.
Thank you for all that you do and for your efforts to combat climate change.
Sincerely,
Bernie Senator Bernie Sanders
And the speed of development is still uncertain as they really do not know how much the defrosting of land in the arctic circle will act in a synergistic manner.
A few factors are very certain, though:
The inevitable conclusion is that whoever or whatever starts the positive feedback loop going will warm up the Earth significantly. One happier note is that human beings are basically naked apes and seem to have at one time or another adapted to very warm climate because we are mostly hairless and equipped with sweat glands. A very likely future cultural adaptation will be: it's cool to be naked and wet!
And all of us shifting northwards to get out of the new desert heat?
No. Many will perish but the remaining ones will move to the edges of continents to be next to oceans or retreat to cooler latitudes following the precipitation belts. You being in Minnesota will be fine for a while but I am pretty sure that Texas will be baked soon -- there seems to be a poetic justice coming from its love affair with Texas tea.
Good point
Yeah unfortunately I think they are still being conservative with their analysis.
I'm still waiting for my dream green job; any day now.
Shhhh... You're supposed to believe the speeches. Not the voting records and appointments.
Nah - that's only for those who are not paying any attention to what is going on around them.
The Elite's are protected from the effects of future Global Warming.
With their wealth Global warming will have no effect on them.
Except perhaps finding more ways to make profit..
Electric cars .. huge profits..
Global Warming is an Elite's 'dream come true'
There's a movie coming out about that starring Matt Damon. It's called Elysium.
It's from the guy who made District 9, which was a futuristic adaptation based on Apartheid in South Africa.
"Set in the year 2159, where the very wealthy live on a man-made space station while the rest of the population resides on a ruined Earth, a man takes on a mission that could bring equality to the polarized worlds." - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1535108/
I hope jodie foster is no where near the set.
Ya?
Bet they will love raising their beach front properties up on stilts - Hey?
In compliment to this post : ( Mr Pres do the people need to sue you as well? )
SWEET - a rolling jubilee to support such things would be gr8.
http://www.occupythesec.org/files/Complaintpressrelease.pdf
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http://www.occupythesec.org/files/Complaintpressrelease.pdf SEC being sued? What do you think of this? Pls - SHARE/CIRCULATE
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Time to out these hypocritical politicians.
Ratchet up the pressure. If WE don't put their feet to the fire they will continue submitting to the fossil fuel corp puppetmasters.
No peace, No mercy, No shit.
RIGHT - ON
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