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Forum Post: Make your own energy. It's easy.

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 19, 2011, 7:11 p.m. EST by Dweddle08 (0) from Gamagori, Aichi Prefecture
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A means of living without the governement. Look into self sustainable energy, http://theenergylie.weebly.com/. We don't need to rely on the government/oil.

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[-] 1 points by OWSNewPartyTakeNY2012 (195) 13 years ago

I wish the trolls didn't think we were so dumb.

[-] 0 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 13 years ago

Eat beans.... power yourself with methane.

[-] 0 points by fuzzyp (302) 13 years ago

A good example of rhetorical divergence which is the reason this movement will fail.

You guys have no leader or agenda.

[-] 1 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 13 years ago

Tell me if this is an exaggeration: http://www.northjersey.com/news/crime_courts/111511_Used_cooking_oil_stolen_from_Clifton_Fair_Lawn_restaurants.html . Some thieves stole used cooking oil from restaurants, 265 gallons worth $876 according to this report. Now I remember seeing some folks with an ancient VW diesel bus drive through Madison in the early 2000s, who filled it up with old cooking oil that restaurants gladly gave them to get rid of, preaching the virtues of biodiesel. I was pretty skeptical that they wouldn't just tar up their engine before they made it to the ocean.... Now we see that a few fringe crackpots, in just a few years, managed to put oil wells in the backyards of every taco stand and burger joint in America. There wasn't a lot of hoopla about this, because this used oil belongs to the people, the small restaurants and the farmers who grow crops which can now be used twice. There's no special auction or claims office that BP and Exxon can send their lawyers into and claim it all for themselves forever. Obviously it hasn't ended dependence on foreign oil, but it is a tangible, valuable step - so valuable that even one restaurant, one day, has enough of what used to be trash that it is worth having police investigate the theft.

[-] 0 points by fuzzyp (302) 13 years ago

Why does used cooking oil suddenly belong to "the people" after it has been used. Maybe the restaurant uses it, I don't know. Just because it's used doesn't mean it's free to steal.

Not everybody is a hippie, believe it or not.

[-] 1 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 13 years ago

I mean that it belongs to whoever uses it. The restaurants and (eventually) the farmers will reap the benefits of this new energy source, not one or a few companies.

[-] 0 points by fuzzyp (302) 13 years ago

There's not enough cooking oil to run the American economy on it.

It belongs to whoever buys it.

[-] 1 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 13 years ago

There's not enough oil in ANWAR to run the economy either. But a little bit of the oil economy is a whole lot of money. I just feel better about sinking this particular well in a restaurant dumpster than putting it where tanker accidents will ruin pristine wilderness, and seeing the profits go to make fuel cheaper and restaurants and farms more remunerative rather than seeing them handed off to a big company in some dubious secret auction.

[-] 0 points by fuzzyp (302) 13 years ago

I don't think I understand. There's plenty of oil. Some we haven't found yet.

I agree that its bad for the environment but I don't know what point you're trying to make because its not well reasoned.