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Forum Post: Leaderless + X X X X = Y Y Y Y whether we intend it or not

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 16, 2011, 8:46 a.m. EST by vets74 (344) from New York, NY
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Let's do some analytical work.

See what we can learn from running a protest movement and trying to make it last. I'll make first-person observations about OWS@Zuccotti Park and you folks chime in with what works.

Writing from my own personal winter quarters....


Leaderless + political demonstrations = Political influence.

Leaderless + focuses to Wall Street crime and societal inequality = Social influence.

(Facts matter. They stole $7-trillion. They are thieves.

The increased income and wealth inequality are government induced -- from giveaway actions from Reagan, Bush43, Republican Congresses, and the Federal Reserve.)

Leaderless + social media = Internet existence for ever.

Leaderless + voter registrations = A political prize, if you work at it.


There are down sides that indicate needs for "adult supervision" to set standards for health care, safety, and Civil Rights Movement patterned non-violence.


Leaderless + no training for outdoor survival = 30 hypothermia cases that required medical intervention the first snow day.

Leaderless + one pressure point = Control of Occupy Wall Street by whoever controls the agendas for the NYCGA meetings and plants supporters strategically to support favored proposals.

(NYCGA is not exactly a functioning democracy. There is nothing much with NYCGA that looks like Athens and its voting system. No citizenship qualifications. No voter list. No single-issue, prepared discussions. No secret votes. No reports from open committees. No ostracism for the truly arrogant.)

Leaderless + no identification = Occupier/protesters getting hammered by violent individuals including one felony rape and a psychotic episode that produced multiple assaults.

Leaderless + no required medical checks = Exposure to infectious diseases: hepatitis, strep, pneumonia, et.al.

(Simple strep pyogenes is what killed Muppets founder Jim Henson, here at New York Hospital in 1990. He delayed going for treatment. That fatal case could have been replicated a dozen times. Simply, Zuccotti Park was not managed for health risks. "Come when you feel like it" fits anarchy, not even minimally competent health management -- fitting to "an 18th Century military encampment.")

Leaderless + little sense of play-well-with-others = Next to no working day-to-day operational relationships with existing civil rights and pro-democracy organizations.

(No joint marches, except with labor unions. No voter registration. No organized/experienced training for non-violence. No filtering marchers to eliminate rightie provocateurs. No crowd management interface with NYPD.)

Leaderless + use Penn Station for winter quarters = Common sense

(Borrowing from George Washington who kinda went through this in the way-back machine. And from NYC's homeless. Nobody in the whole crew at Zuccotti thought seriously about doing winter quarters. The lower level of Penn Station (34th Street) is what the NYC homeless use for their winter quarters. Couple hundred people sleep there every night. They're not especially smart/educated/politically sophisticate. But proof's in the pudding -- they're weather-smarter than this OWS-in-Zuccotti leaderless tent-dweller crew.)

Leaderless + socially random = Gone ???

(That's one future. A guess, because if you blow something bad then usually it stays blown. The NYPD clean-out yesterday eliminated grave health risks to our tent-dwellers.)


Leaderless + no teevee = Tain't all bad.

Zuccotti had its advantages.


BTW: there's some damn shill accounts going through and clicking "dislike" on everything. Rightie sabotage. When you read comments, please click "like" on everything just to balance things out.

Best to all --

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[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 13 years ago

Excellent points. Excellent post.

The problems that brought us together still remain. The tent city provided an opportunity to come together, network, awake the social consciousness, and examine first hand the issue of homelessness, a growing fact of life thanks to the ills we are confronting - and all of this reaches far beyond one simple park.

Park occupation or not - I don't believe we are going anywhere.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 13 years ago

Excellent points. Excellent post.

The problems that brought us together still remain. The tent city provided an opportunity to come together, network, awake the social consciousness, and examine first hand the issue of homelessness, a growing fact of life thanks to the ills we are confronting - and all of this reaches far beyond one simple park.

Park occupation or not - I don't believe we are going anywhere.

[-] 1 points by fredastaire (203) 13 years ago

I think you need to add Dems(I'm a Dem) in the blame arena. Also I think expecting perfection in a movement that formed so quickly is expecting a little much. However, after having been given time to address these issues and not doing so was and still is a problem. If we do not get stuck in movement branding, we can move past this to a stronger more intelligent approach. The lack of organisation I believe stems from extreme socialists in the leadership that wanted to lead from behind a curtain and create confusion because they know that organisation and proper management will squeeze them out. They forget that having no leadership leaves a vacuum that will eventually be filled.

[-] 0 points by vets74 (344) from New York, NY 13 years ago

There wasn't a true "leadership vacuum." It was just hidden. I'd also vote for "weak" relative to practical problems.

A tiny little clique got control of the daily agenda for the GA meetings. Two people ran it, at most four. GA meetings went to PC chat instead of resolving tent-dweller management problems.

This clique has not taken responsibility for much. Health and security and winter, for example, did more than just creeping up on the Zuccotti Park community. They were consistently ad hoc and reactive. Apparently fearful of criticism.

[-] 1 points by buphiloman (840) 13 years ago

Who needs Faux Noos, when their fighter drones will come right to us. lol.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 13 years ago

balance

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[-] 0 points by vets74 (344) from New York, NY 13 years ago

More of these shill "unlike" clicks.

Site management could have a look at this bit o' ugliness.

[-] 0 points by karenpoore (902) 13 years ago

Thanks for being here ... They certainly need help.