Forum Post: Langone "OWS are a bunch of babies in adult's bodies"...I agree
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 4, 2011, 9:25 a.m. EST by MisguidedYouth2
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Grow up children, and if you're over 40 prancing around OWS camps, forget it, you have nothing to offer society anymore. Ken's point was that joblessness is very often a choice. He spoke of a trucking company he owns that needs 70 drivers, at 40-60K, but his GM of that business's says guys don't like that salary because they can make more on unemployment, supplemented with odd job income.
When will OWS learn that redistribution of income comes at a price to those that receive others wealth. Every dollar costs them an equal share of their self-respect, and another equal share of their individual pride.
Don't be fooled, you won't really be happy unless your wealth is your own, and when it is yours you'll understand its not what you can buy with it you'll value, but how it makes you feel to know you earned it. Giving is a natural inclination of people of self-made wealth, but giving to those who are worthy and just plain down on their luck. Giving it to OWS types and people that dont appreciate the charity is detremenatal to everyone and not compatible with the preservation of dignity, or pride.
I used to believe in all that hard work stuff too. I used to work 14 hour days with a full-time and part time job, but I got sick of never seeing my daughter, not having any time for myself, and just relaxing. Now I just trade momentum for my account, my uncle, and a few others. I sit in front of a computer, watch the monitor a few hours in the morning and the afternoon and make more money in about 15 hours or less a week than I used to do in 14 hours per day. I made 7% on my triple DOW long overnight for me and my friends on Wednesday! Hard work is truly for suckers! True, my dad worked long hours to give a middle-class life for us, but I hardly ever saw him, and that sucked, and when had that heart attack at 54, that really sucked. But hard work now-a-days? Seriously? I'm done at 4PM EVERYDAY. Some weeks, I'm good by Monday morning!
I really can't help but laugh at this Hard Work pity party crap
OWS is creating a class of people that are not willing to work for themselves and just want the government to had them money and a house and food. Well news flash, people have to work for a living and some people have to work even harder for a living. Thats the way the world works. BESIDES, ISN'T AMERICA THE 1% OF THE WORLD? we have the best living and the best overall country in the world.....we also run the fricken world! so welcome to the 1% you are trying to destroy, its America, we are the 1% of the world and if you do't like it feel free to leave....
Most people don't want a trucking job because they have families. And when you are a trucker, you are never there.
if you're a long-haul trucker, then yeah. there's companies here that haul equipment for the oilfield and get to come home and sleep in their beds every night
You sound like a child. I don't want to go to workkkkk. If you knew how hard your ancestors worked you would understand that their 16 hour days left little time for family. Dad's just went out and worked and they made their family's lives better than their own. That's sacrifice. You should try it.
I work in an oil refinery. Tell me I sound like a child again, and I'll tell you about a real job.
My original statement stands.
Well then you should understand my point which is that work often requires sacrifice and being away from home. Your brothers workin on the ocean rigs are often away from their families for months at a time. Your suggestion that traveling away from family is somehow a legitimate reason for turning down a good job is what sounds childish to me.
I travel a ton for my work and have to be away from my family. It's part of my job, I do it because the job requires it. I suck it up, get on the damn plane and go. It's what a real man does. He sacrifices and provides. You of all people should understand that.
Your friend who runs the trucking company...he must be upset that gas prices have increased so much over the past year. That must obviously increase his costs significantly.
He can blame Ben Bernanke for that, and then realize that many OWS supporters want Bernanke removed (or the Fed ended entirely).
china is buying up all the oil.
i suggest speaking to the saudis to get them to open the taps
I highly enjoy your name, Technoviking.
But the reason oil prices have increased is a direct result of Ben Bernanke's $600 billion money-printing campaign (November 2010 - June 2011).
oil is getting expensive in many other currencies too... so, no i doubt it.
All commodities are traded in US dollars. If China is buying oil, they need to use US dollars to purchase it. So when Bernanke printed all that money, it drove up commodity prices, and we exported inflation around the world.
when bernanke prints money, usd gets cheaper for everyone else since there is more usd in the currency markets for foreigners to buy. so that effect should cancel out.
think about it! if bernanke one day decides to put an additional 0 in front of all your bank notes, it just means foreigners will be able to buy 10x more usd than before.
you can't "export" inflation. the currency markets will just devalue the dollar.
You're 100% wrong on this.
Have a read: http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2011/03/08/fed-exports-inflation-stokes-revolutions/
http://www.cnbc.com/id/42926329/Catch_22_as_Fed_Exports_Inflation
the value of commodities don't just stay stagnant while the value of currencies move around them. other people bid on them too, in reaction to future economic growth or shrinkage. a lot of companies roll futures position against the usd exposure and fx correlation to hedge off the risk, they simply don't care about the "inflation" in the same way americans do.
even if the commodity prices don't move, the value of currencies move in tandem with the usd simply because hot money flow follows a predictable tradition. that influences commodity prices in a predictable fashion that explains the phenomena shown in the forbes article.
i could list a 100 reasons why inflation is not "exported".
Anyone who says they make more on unemployment than working for $50,000 a year is a LIAR. In PA, where I live, the max unemployment payment is around $550 a week. Again, that's MAX, which most people don't even get. That's less than $30,000 before taxes (which you do have to pay on unemployment). And sorry, but I don't see "odd jobs" adding another $30,000 to that. I call bullshit on your claims.
These ar Mr. Langones assertions not mine douche bag. The fact is they can't fill these jobs because we've made people too comfortable in their poverty!
Why do you choose to generalize "OWS types"? I'm in college, WORK MY ASS OFF in school, have a part time job, and I support the movement. And for me, redistribution of the wealth is just the tip of the iceberg. I am most concerned with the lack of interest corporations have in the continually degrading state of the environment. I would like to see corporations working for the public good, rather than for pure profit. "OWS types" are a diverse bunch! Please do your research and realize that only a few people are really threatened by this movement, and you are not one of them.
I used to believe in all that hard work stuff too. I used to work 14 hour days with a full-time and part time job, but I got sick of never seeing my daughter, not having any time for myself, and just relaxing. Now I just trade momentum for my account, my uncle, and a few others. I sit in front of a computer, watch the monitor a few hours in the morning and the afternoon and make more money in about 15 hours or less a week than I used to do in 14 hours per day. I made 7% on my triple DOW long overnight for me and my friends on Wednesday! Hard work is truly for suckers! True, my dad worked long hours to give a middle-class life for us, but I hardly ever saw him, and that sucked, and when had that heart attack at 54, that really sucked. But hard work now-a-days? Seriously? I'm done at 4PM EVERYDAY. Some weeks, I'm good by Monday morning!
I really can't help but laugh at this Hard Work pity party crap
Sadly, expressing views like that do more harm than good for this movement.
Redistribution of wealth and people over profit have socialistic/communistic tendencies, providing plenty of fodder for detractors to discredit us.
If you clowns were really concerned about the environment you would go after the low hanging fruit in China. You clean up their part of the planet and you'll do more for the environment than could ever be accomplished here.
I remember air quality in the 70's and it was horrible. The US companies have done more to make the burning of fossil fuels as safe as it can be, at the expense of their own competitiveness, because they knew it was the right thing to do. If you really want to make a difference, make Asia clean up their continent, and stop demanding we be the only good stewards. We can't do it alone.
Thanks, Misguided. I remember that air. I nearly gag when I go to a little "antique" car show in a small town and smell the exhaust from those cars. Takes me back to those days.
So many of the young people have no clue. They only know cleaner air...here in the US. Again, thanks for the reminder!
Corporations do not work for the public good. They work for profits. And that's not all bad. Without a bottom line and a profit incentive, a corporation will fail. Period. It's how capitalism works. An until OWS puts forth a manifesto that explains, in detail, a better system, I'm sticking with capitalism.
As for the environment: Companies today are cleaner and more environmentally conscious than they were 30 or 40 years ago. Maybe not perfect, but they've come a long way. I would argue the pendulum has swung way too far to the side of the environmentalists, especially under the current administration. The EPA has overstepped its bounds and saddled industry with billions in useless regulations and rules. Money that could go toward growing business and employing more people. And if we cleaned up the tax code, those corporations would be paying more in taxes and getting this country on the road toward a balanced budget.
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