Forum Post: Job Theory (still polishing it a bit will need your advice!)
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 15, 2011, 12:52 a.m. EST by Lork
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Avoid jobs that are either outsourcesable, can become automated or bubble prone. Avoid "hot" jobs like real estate that depend on consumer demand. Yes - even tech is bubble prone because it is DANGEROUSLY outsourceable. (Example - South Korean FTA and Bay Area tech jobs) Go for recession-proof, automation-proof and outsourcing-proof careers like nursing, garbage collection (garbage collection MAY become automated, but it cannot be outsourced and will survive recessions), police, firemen, etc.
Remember investment banker Joshua Persky? His job was DEMAND dependant and -now- look where he is. I can just imagine some conservative coldly looking down at him and going "Well in a free economy..." and "Education is speculation...", even as the 1%ers of the world keep pushing the lie that it is supply and indoctrinate us with that mantra from birth to death.
Remember all those law school graduates who came out of grad school with a shitload of debt and no job prospects? Yeah that surprised me too...
My mom is a nurse and even SHE was LUCKY to find a job. With this global economy + overpopulation + job killing free trade + job killing automation + stagnant to decreasing wages and worker rights making people desperate + infinite growth in a finite economy, people are in PANIC MODE and jumping into the "stable" career market...which will only excaberate the problem.
Also - turn the global economy against the globalists! Don't just look for jobs in the US - look for jobs in Europe too for instance! If they're going to overflood the supply - overflood the demand! The only problem with this is that it -may- overflood other countries with supply and then the problem of oversupply will just get worse for everybody. Meaning that we will plague other countries with our disease. But well...it's worth a shot no?
So...what do you think? I reached this conclusion after observing what is happening to me and the people around me and the people that who aren't around me (but still hear about).
Yes it's not a perfect model. YES it will not prevent the consequences of -
Global economy + overpopulation + job killing free trade + job killing automation + stagnant to decreasing wages and worker rights making people desperate + infinite growth in a finite economy.
And YES this MAY even spread the USA's plague to other countries...setting us ALL in a race to the bottom as we become increasingly replaceable and disposable...
But but but - What do you think? I want to know.
"I reached this conclusion after observing what is happening to me and the people around me and the people that who aren't around me (but still hear about)."
Soooooo....all your "evidence" is anecdotal? Whats your background? What information supports your theory outside of your own unscientific observations?
I think it's foolish, ill-informed, and baseless. It's wild, irresponsible speculation.
Plus, it doesn't even make sense: "Avoid "hot" jobs like real estate that depend on consumer demand"
ALL JOBS DEPEND ON DEMAND. The reason nursing jobs are considered evergreen is because it's assumed that there will always be sick people creating a demand for treatment. Not because there isn't a consumer demand.
the minute all these young fresh grad investment bankers put their john hancocks on the employment contract, they agree to play by the rules of the jungle. the fittest survive, the weakest die.
and it is a fucking jungle out there.
Actually, I think one would be falling into a trap by thinking that one's job could be outsourced, therefor there is no leverage to demand higher compensation. The truth is that if one makes enough to survive in the US, then one's employer already would have outsourced one's job if they could. Many tech jobs, for instance, went to other countries as the global economy grew, but the people who used to have those jobs in the US are now managing those activities for their companies. There is a lot more work to do and it is necessary to have someone coordinate that. The tech jobs are transitioning to becoming project management jobs. Just one example I am familiar with.
Duly noted.
So you're saying "Don't play into their hands by making a panic move." right?
I think you're right to advise someone to have a job that is based on the service industry locally, because that is typically much more stable. However, if someone is already in a job where they are afraid that their job will be outsourced my advice would be don't panic, find a way to leverage what you know already, whether you keep or job or not, there is usually a way to do it rather than start over from scratch.
Ah thank you.