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Forum Post: It is amazing to see that the people realize how their money is created

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 5:21 a.m. EST by candlelighter (16)
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For me the most explosive core topic along with the Occupy Wall Street movement ist the fact that the people more and more realize how their money is created. It seems that for years only a few people knew how the Federal Reserve System is functioning.

It looks like it is run by private banks, creates money out of thin air and takes interest from the goverment which can only be paid with the already existing amout of money. They can increase or decrease the amount of money in circulation and cause a crisis whenenver they want.

I think if this knowledge spreads througout the country people will probably not tolerate anymore how this system works at the moment.

Do you think the Fed will still exist in ten years?

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[-] 1 points by candlelighter (16) 13 years ago

Why not, do you think it is better if things stay as they are and the bankers keep control?

[-] 1 points by Arachnofoil (104) from Charlotte, NC 13 years ago

Let's hope not

[-] 1 points by candlelighter (16) 13 years ago

I wonder if and when the critical mass will be reached

[-] 1 points by antipolitics (127) 13 years ago

Oh so this is how it worked... Thanks for sharing... I did not know this...

[-] 1 points by candlelighter (16) 13 years ago

Yes, still too conditioned but I think this is changing at the moment as already too many people address this issue on the street and on youtube

[-] 1 points by reddy2 (256) 13 years ago

Income tax is used just to pay the interest owed to the Fed.

Which means NO Fed. NO income taxes.

But people still can't put 2 and 2 together yet.

Still too conditioned to being debt slaves.

[-] 0 points by the1in20 (1) 13 years ago

Heh, I wonder who hired the guy posting as "Mcc" ... Federal Reserve perhaps?

edit: Nice copy pasted walls of text, jackass.

[-] 0 points by Mcc (542) 13 years ago

Don't fall for this psychological crap from any one percent goon. It's an obvious attempt to divert our attention from the obscene, unjust, immoral, and illogical concentration of wealth. Donald Trump went on record the other day telling us to blame the government instead of Wall Street and the richest one percent. His goons are obviously online and on air trying to divert our attention. Don't fall for it. Just keep protesting no matter what the one percent goons say or do. Our message is vital. Below is my two cents:

We have been mislead by Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, and nearly every other public figure. Economic growth, job creation, and actual prosperity are not necessarily a package deal. In fact, the first two are horribly misunderstood. Economic growth/loss (GDP) is little more than a measure of wealth changing hands. A transfer of currency from one party to another. The rate at which it is traded. This was up until mid ’07′ however, has never been a measure of actual prosperity. Neither has job creation. The phrase itself has been thrown around so often, and in such a generic political manner, that it has come to mean nothing. Of course, we need to have certain things done for the benefit of society as a whole. We need farmers, builders, manufacturers, transporters, teachers, cops, firefighters, soldiers, mechanics, sanitation workers, doctors, managers, and visionaries. Their work is vital. I’ll even go out on a limb and say that we need politicians, attorneys, bankers, investors, and entertainers. In order to keep them productive, we must provide reasonable incentives. We need to compensate each by a fair measure for their actual contributions to society. We need to provide a reasonable scale of income opportunity for every independent adult, every provider, and share responsibility for those who have a legitimate need for aid. In order to achieve and sustain this, we must also address the cost of living and the distribution of wealth. Here, we have failed miserably. The majority have already lost their home equity, their financial security, and their relative buying power. The middle class have actually lost much of their ability to make ends meet, re-pay loans, pay taxes, and support their own economy. The lower class have gone nearly bankrupt. In all, its a multi-trillion dollar loss taken over about 30 years. Millions are under the impression that we need to create more jobs simply to provide more opportunity. as if that would solve the problem. It won’t. Not by a longshot. Jobs don’t necessarily create wealth. In fact, they almost never do. For the mostpart, they only transfer wealth from one party to another. A gain here. A loss there. Appreciation in one community. Depreciation in another. In order to create net wealth, you must harvest a new resource or make more efficient use of one. Either way you must have a reliable and ethical system in place to distribute that newly created wealth in order to benefit society as a whole and prevent a lagging downside. The ‘free market’ just doesn’t cut it. Its a farce. Many of the jobs created are nothing but filler. The promises empty. Sure, unemployment reached an all-time low under Bush. GDP reached an all-time high. But those are both shallow and misleading indicators. In order to gauge actual prosperity, you must consider the economy in human terms. As of ’08′ the average American was working more hours than the previous generation with far less equity to show for it. Consumer debt, forclosure, and bankruptcy were also at all-time highs. As of ’08′, every major American city was riddled with depressed communities, neglected neighborhoods, failing infrastructures, lost revenue, and gang activity. All of this has coincided with massive economic growth and job creation. Meanwhile, the rich have been getting richer and richer and richer even after taxes. Our nation’s wealth has been concentrated. Again, this represents a multi-trillion dollar loss taken by the majority. Its an absolute deal breaker. Bottom line: With or without economic growth or job creation, you must have a system in place to prevent too much wealth from being concentrated at the top. Unfortunately, we don’t. Our economy has become nothing but a giant game of Monopoly. The richest one percent already own nearly 1/2 of all United States wealth. More than double their share before Reagan took office. Still, they want more. They absolutely will not stop. Now, our society as a whole is in serious jeapordy. Greed kills.