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Forum Post: im tired of our taxes going too welfare foodstamps and gov saleries!

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 3:29 a.m. EST by bizel36 (16) from Virginia Beach, VA
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i pay for this every hour i bust my ass and i cant have food stamps or welfare not too mention i don't support any political party and yet my taxes pay into each politicians salary

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[-] 6 points by thebeastchasingitstail (1912) 13 years ago

The largest chunk of the Federal budget is military expenditures. That's where your tax money is going.

[-] 2 points by BHicks4ever (180) 13 years ago

True.

[-] 1 points by Macrocosm (7) from Santa Maria, CA 13 years ago

what about all the money going to militarism worldwide?

[-] 1 points by RichardGates (1529) 13 years ago

you're right. employers have pushed their responsibility to their employees onto the government for far to long. employers need to pay the cost of doing business and people need to stop accepting employment that does pay cost of living, taxes and healthcare. it's our patriotic duty to demand a wage the unburdens the government of our victimization by hunger and destitution.

it cost it t make it. if you cannot pay your employees these wages, you are a failed company no less than your considering an unemployed person a failed human. you are a deadbeat employer. you like that term? i'm going to be spreading that far and wide. say it with me "deadbeat employer" ...just rolls right off the tongue.

[-] 1 points by peacescientist (169) 13 years ago

You could have both if you wanted, but we can both agree that you would have to give up your dignity if you did right? Maslow had this idea that in order to develop a "good" human being, you also needed a "good" society in which this person was to develop. This term good was used to mean self actualized. Do you feel that our society promotes self actualization? Is offering the same as promoting? If you were raised in a different set of circumstances how would you be able to come to the level of success that you have attained now?

[-] 1 points by bizel36 (16) from Virginia Beach, VA 13 years ago

wow thanks for the true brain food uve given me something to sincerely think about and i thank you.

[-] 1 points by radelato (36) 13 years ago

Then Welcome. Join the Movement. Pick a spot and share your thoughts on how to improve our system. you talk, everyone will listen.

[-] 1 points by Mcc (542) 13 years ago

Don't fall for this psychological crap from any one percent goon. It's an obvious attempt to divert our attention from the obscene, unjust, immoral, and illogical concentration of wealth. Donald Trump went on record the other day telling us to blame the government instead of Wall Street and the richest one percent. His goons are obviously online and on air trying to divert our attention. Don't fall for it. Just keep protesting no matter what the one percent goons say or do. Our message is vital. Below is my two cents:

We have been mislead by Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, and nearly every other public figure. Economic growth, job creation, and actual prosperity are not necessarily a package deal. In fact, the first two are horribly misunderstood. Economic growth/loss (GDP) is little more than a measure of wealth changing hands. A transfer of currency from one party to another. The rate at which it is traded. This was up until mid ’07′ however, has never been a measure of actual prosperity. Neither has job creation. The phrase itself has been thrown around so often, and in such a generic political manner, that it has come to mean nothing. Of course, we need to have certain things done for the benefit of society as a whole. We need farmers, builders, manufacturers, transporters, teachers, cops, firefighters, soldiers, mechanics, sanitation workers, doctors, managers, and visionaries. Their work is vital. I’ll even go out on a limb and say that we need politicians, attorneys, bankers, investors, and entertainers. In order to keep them productive, we must provide reasonable incentives. We need to compensate each by a fair measure for their actual contributions to society. We need to provide a reasonable scale of income opportunity for every independent adult, every provider, and share responsibility for those who have a legitimate need for aid. In order to achieve and sustain this, we must also address the cost of living and the distribution of wealth. Here, we have failed miserably. The majority have already lost their home equity, their financial security, and their relative buying power. The middle class have actually lost much of their ability to make ends meet, re-pay loans, pay taxes, and support their own economy. The lower class have gone nearly bankrupt. In all, its a multi-trillion dollar loss taken over about 30 years. Millions are under the impression that we need to create more jobs simply to provide more opportunity. as if that would solve the problem. It won’t. Not by a longshot. Jobs don’t necessarily create wealth. In fact, they almost never do. For the mostpart, they only transfer wealth from one party to another. A gain here. A loss there. Appreciation in one community. Depreciation in another. In order to create net wealth, you must harvest a new resource or make more efficient use of one. Either way you must have a reliable and ethical system in place to distribute that newly created wealth in order to benefit society as a whole and prevent a lagging downside. The ‘free market’ just doesn’t cut it. Its a farce. Many of the jobs created are nothing but filler. The promises empty. Sure, unemployment reached an all-time low under Bush. GDP reached an all-time high. But those are both shallow and misleading indicators. In order to gauge actual prosperity, you must consider the economy in human terms. As of ’08′ the average American was working more hours than the previous generation with far less equity to show for it. Consumer debt, forclosure, and bankruptcy were also at all-time highs. As of ’08′, every major American city was riddled with depressed communities, neglected neighborhoods, failing infrastructures, lost revenue, and gang activity. All of this has coincided with massive economic growth and job creation. Meanwhile, the rich have been getting richer and richer and richer even after taxes. Our nation’s wealth has been concentrated. Again, this represents a multi-trillion dollar loss taken by the majority. Its an absolute deal breaker. Bottom line: With or without economic growth or job creation, you must have a system in place to prevent too much wealth from being concentrated at the top. Unfortunately, we don’t. Our economy has become nothing but a giant game of Monopoly. The richest one percent already own nearly 1/2 of all United States wealth. More than double their share before Reagan took office. Still, they want more. They absolutely will not stop. Now, our society as a whole is in serious jeapordy. Greed kills.

[-] 1 points by Mcc (542) 13 years ago

Is greed really good? 

Doctor discovers cure and prevention of AIDS. Sells discovery for $5,000,000,000,000. Same doctor discovers cure and prevention of heart disease. Sells discovery for another $5,000,000,000,000. Same doctor discovers cure and prevention of Alzheimer. Sells discovery for another $1,000,000,000,000. Breast cancer. Brain cancer. Skin cancer. Bone cancer. Colon cancer. Pancreatic cancer. Cervical cancer. Ovarian cancer. Testicular cancer. Banks cover all related investments by the health care industry. Nobody stops to consider that the lower 99 percent combined could never afford such expensive cures. The richest one percent agree to purchase the bulk of material assets along with millions of unsold homes for ten percent of market value. After a two year spike in revenue, the health care industry tanks. The vast majority have gone bankrupt in a desperate attempt to cover those incredibly expensive cures. The profits made in the first two years were nowhere near enough to cover the $20,000,000,000,000 doctor payoff. The largest debts in world history go unpaid. All major banks fail miserably. Followed by every major industry. Unemployment spikes to 90 percent in all of the G20. The global economy tanks. Chaos breaks out worldwide. Meanwhile, the richest man in the world by far, buys an island and hires a small army to protect his $20,000,000,000,000 fortune. 5000 jobs are created. More as the richest one percent worldwide hire additional security. Unemployment drops to 80 percent across the developed world. Widespread chaos remains. Entire cities burn to the ground. The masses finally converge on the richest one percent in every corner of the world. As the bodies pile up, disease breaks out worldwide. When the dust settles, and the bodies rot away, only a few hundred million remain worldwide. Those few hundred million survivors must find a way to get along and rebuild. Hopefully, with a more reliable and ethical system of economics.       

The answer is hell no. Greed kills..

[-] 1 points by bizel36 (16) from Virginia Beach, VA 13 years ago

dude stop fucking copying and pasteing the same shit everywere. para frase or something got dam man that shits unneccessary

[-] 1 points by Mcc (542) 13 years ago

The answer is 'no'. Deal with it.

[-] 1 points by bizel36 (16) from Virginia Beach, VA 13 years ago

so u have only one long fucking essay to keep repeating like a broken record?

[-] 1 points by Mcc (542) 13 years ago

I have three saved on this computer. At least 20 on the other. The answer is still 'no'.

[-] 1 points by bizel36 (16) from Virginia Beach, VA 13 years ago

y not post em all?

[-] 1 points by Mcc (542) 13 years ago

Because it's not necessary. I chose two in particular for this site.

[-] 1 points by bizel36 (16) from Virginia Beach, VA 13 years ago

whats the other one?

[-] 1 points by HeardofEconomics (59) from Chicago, IL 13 years ago

way to cut and paste the same garbage everywhere....creative....useful....imaginative...you are sure helping push this cause forward....

have an original thought ....then ill read what you have to say.

[-] 1 points by Mcc (542) 13 years ago

The answer is 'no'. Deal with it.

[-] 1 points by bizel36 (16) from Virginia Beach, VA 13 years ago

thank you did not no that. and if thats the case i want military issued guns and no police i can take care of my own.