Forum Post: I was a campaign manager for Obama in
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 23, 2011, 9:12 p.m. EST by jgriff
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from Tampa, FL
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Tampa. I am currently involved with OccTampa.
I can honestly say that between the Obomacare waivers to big businesses, the bailouts, the wars and games, there is almost nothing more this guy could do to dissapoint me anymore than I already am.
Problem is, 2012 is one year away, and I am having a hell of a time finding people to form alternative solutions.
Maybe next time you should just read the candidates resume. If Obama had been forced to email his resume for the job to the American people, they would have thrown the resume in the trash. Why Americans fall for the "smooth talking" con-artists every time, I will never know.
In my own defense, I was 25 and mainly concerned with getting fucked up until then. Over the last three years, with the studying I have done, I am at a loss of how any adult that has studied politics could vote for one of these two parties?...
Hey, OP, I got my political feet wet working for George McGovern (1972) and went on to work for other Democrats. Kids are enthusiastic but most know nothing about what it is they're supporting. Communists call the rank and file "useful idiots" and it's true. It wasn't until 1981 that i began to learn the truth about a lot of things, including what the Federal Reserve is and what it does. Needless to say, I was floored. The Matrix began dissolving for me then and it still is. We are fed sooooo many lies. I knew what the deal was with Obama but I have never seen such a slick marketing campaign, along with mass mind control, in my life. People were so mesmerized that they willingly ignored the truth about their perceived savior. It was truly horrifying to watch. So, glad to hear that you're Matrix dissolving has commenced. It's a process that will continue for the rest of your life.
I would like ask you a few very honest questions, things I am wondering:
Am I wasting too much time trying to stay ahead of the lies. I have my own business to attend to, and since the OWS started, and in Tampa, my business is not doing has well.
Does a small group of people set out to do something big still have a chance of succeeding?
1 - staying ahead of lies isn't a waste of time
2 - is the question intended to conjure a quote?
Any group that is working for change should ALWAYS be kept local and, no, it's not a waste of time. Once it's no longer local, all control is lost.
Focus on your business and keep educating yourself. You can do both. Don't lose control over your own life by spending an inordinate amount time on OWS or anything. You have to make sure you're meeting your own needs and taking care of yourself. If you don't do that you'll crash and burn. You and family and pets first.
Cool, thats kinda what Ive been thinking. Appreciate the thoughts. Its hard to keep the balance, because Im soo much more passionate about the activism stuff.
If you want to keep educating yourself while taking care of you, I would suggest watching some David Icke videos. The learning curve is steep and you'll get more faster is you learn what he's teaching.
Good luck and hang in there. When it becomes overwhelming, take a break ;-)
I agree, however the media doesn't seem to give equal coverage to independent candidates. They also don't seem to have the same level of financial backing needed to compete in the bias media and the American people have been brain washed to believe that you must either vote Republican or Democrat lest your vote is wasted on an Independent whom media give very little credit or face time too.
It isn't just the media. The Democratic and Republican parties have conspired to keep other candidates out of the presidential debates:
"The presidential debates -- the single most important electoral events -- should provide voters with an opportunity to see the popular candidates discussing important issues in an unscripted manner. Unfortunately, the presidential debates often fail to do so, because the major party candidates secretly control them.
Presidential debates were run by the civic-minded League of Women Voters until 1988, when the national Republican and Democratic parties seized control of the debates by establishing the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD). Posing as a nonpartisan institution, the CPD has deceptively run the debates in the interests of the national Republican and Democratic parties, not the American people."
http://opendebates.org/theissue/
interesting info...thanks...not surprised...I certainly hope the movement continues to build momentum and we reach a point in our country where everyone is truly informed, truly has a voice and vote, and we truly become a nation for the people by the people.
Insane, isn't it?
Been there....Done that.
Living under the Obama administration is like living in prison.
No freedom, crappy living conditions and we all got raped.
I almost want to vote for him but I think we've reached a point in this country where the public has to stop tolerating politicians who lie out their asses during the campaign. If Obama doesn't get a second term I don't the the guy who comes after him will either.
The destruction has been done and there is no way we can go back in time and fix it. We are entering a new era in time that has never been experienced before in the history of America. We have no manufacturing jobs left so in order to rebuild the economy we need fresh new ideas in manufacturing so we can become marketable again. The population has never been higher then what it is today and as a nation we are vulnerable. We need to bring back farming in every state to grow our own local food instead of importing it. Its a small step but it is an important one.
We can't depend on our government the way that it is being runned now so it is up to us to start being creative in new ideas and put them in action.
I agree 100%. It is the one thing that the OWS movements can be happy with, that they are building networks of people.
yeah. The big money got him all right. And when the BIG money gets them, it does not let go. Cue the sadness. I thought he was sincere. Naive.
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The entire political system has failed and there is not a single candidate that can create miracles by fixing the problems that have been acumulating over many years in Congress. We need a brand new system of government.
Word. I wish I saw more adults involved in this type of thing. It seems they are content ot let the 20yo try to figure it all out.
I am in my forties so I hope I am not the only one my age on this forum.
I laugh out loud at this! you think the president matters and is NOT just a figure head. You silly goose.
The economy has collapsed and no longer produces enough work to support the population. The political system has also collapsed and doesn't produce change or hope for the millions that are becoming increasingly desperate and despondent. We have NO OTHER avenue but open rebellion !!
And if we don't act now, we will regret it in the future. What we are experiencing now is just the beginning of the total collapse of America.
Maybe. Just remember what Adam Smith once said when asked how long it would take to completely destroy a country. He said, there is an awful lot of ruin in a country.
Obama should "stage a military coup" providing he cares. Restore order to the country and make offenders accountable for there plunder.
The choices suck. I don't like any of them. Ron Paul seems to talk a lot of sense but I don't like his perspectives on healthcare and education. But no one is going to get what I want in healthcare, so that option doesn't matter.
And sad to say but I might be selfish in voting for him because even though I don't like his perspective on education, I am out of college already. But in the end I don't have a candidate that I support. Still undecided. For now. I hope someone will rise up.
come on all.. don't sell Obama too short... remember he didn't have the 99% behind him ... given what he had to work with... he's done a pretty good job... Be Honest... could anyone here have first gotten elected and then done much better ??? ;)
You are correct, Obama doesn't have any support in Congress and no there is no one else that could have done better.
What should be realized is that the President doesn't have as much power as people would like to believe that he does.
I dont think anyone, regardless how honest or hard working, can belong to either of those two parties and get anything done, or the type of stuff the people want.
too true...
I am tired of Ted Turner, the evilness of him
Here are the facts, Republican Economic and Political Policies have destroyed this country and anyone that supports Republicans and their policies are a participant in the destruction of America and the world. This crap has gone on far, far, far too long. Democrat's have put in place programs that have protected young and especially the elderly and Republicans are always trying to find a way to dissolve these very helpful programs that keep people alive. If Republicans got their way, many more of us would be dead.
The Occupy Wall St. movement should be in DC and primarily geared toward the Republican Congress, the people truly responsible for the destruction of America. Here is a history of economic disasters, intentionally and repeatedly caused by Republican Economic and Political Policies and Republican politicians who protect Wall St Execs and Corporate criminals.
1 - Recession of 2008 George W. Bush (R) Greatest downturn since 1929, blamed on lack of regulation of financial markets and collapse of credit markets.
2 - Recession of 2001 George W. Bush (R) Began in April of 2001, marked the beginning of greatest deficit spending in all of recorded human history.
3 - Recession of 1990-1991 George H.W. Bush (R) Deregulation of Savings and Loan industry.
4 - Recession of 1981-1982 Ronald Reagan (R) Massive deficit spending/deregulation of markets.
5 - Recession of 1973-1975 Richard M Nixon (R) OPEC's increase in oil prices and massive spending in the escalation of war in Vietnam led to stagflation, the second economic crash of Nixon's administration.
6 - Recession of 1969-1970 Richard M. Nixon (R) Credited to Nixon's escalation of and massive spending.
7 - Recession of 1960 -1961 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R) Noted for high unemployment, low GDP, high inflation. JFK ended the recession by stimulating the economy 10 days after taking office.
8 - Recession of 1957-1958 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R) Eisenhower achieved the dubious distinction of achieving a second economic downturn on his watch, a record later matched by Richard M. Nixon, and George W. Bush.
9 - Recession of 1953 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R) Increased outlays to National defense and restrictive credit policies blamed for this downturn.
10 - The Great Depression of 1929 Herbert Hoover (R) Lasted for 10 years- Blamed on Hoover's economic policy and lack of regulation of financial markets.
OCCUPY DC......
Someone should find this same list online without the (D)'s deleted from it haha.
You can take your pro-Democrat bullshit and shove it up your ass. You wanna support the duopoly, go ahead.
We arent.
Hurts to hear the facts, the truth.... It's clear you want to continue to support the evil doers, throw your full support behind the people trying to destroy this fine and beautiful country. We good doers support the good of this country. Certainly feel much better about that, I sleep good knowing this.
We support trying to figure something out that works. Something that hasnt been the same garbage for the last 30 years. Somehting that may actually represent the people.
If that is evil, than Im Dr. Doom
Here is what's abundantly clear right now, Democrat's want to serve the people, Republicans want to destroy the people, stop any progress that will allow us to move forward. The solutions are Ohh so simple, serve the people, that's it......Not much to figure out..... Their jobs as public servants are, to serve the people, that is it....
Well, I thought Obama was full of shit the moment I saw him, but nooooo, you Obama True Believers were having none of that.
Tell me why I should follow you NOW.
Tell me why I shouldn't look with scorn on any of your new hobbyhorses, such as OWS.
Im not saying anyone should follow ME. Im saying we have a two-party beast that isnt serving ANYONE.
So who is going to step up and start leading?
Ironically, ordinary Americans become the leaders by agreement upon the meaning of Article 5 of the US constitution.--
Congress is very afraid of it. Complete democratic control over the priciples of the republic contained in the constituion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_to_propose_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution "Congress acted preemptively to propose the amendments instead. At least four amendments (the Seventeenth, Twenty-First, Twenty-Second, and Twenty-Fifth Amendments) have been identified as being proposed by Congress at least partly in response to the threat of an Article V convention."
Our first right in our contract is Article V, the right to have congress convene delgates when 2/3 of the states have applied for an amendatory convention.
Article. V.
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.----
Americans only have to step up and say, "I understand the constitution and we NEED an article 5 convention NOW." and they say that to their state legislatures.
Well to be quite honest, I look at OWS and see the exact same people who were into Dean for America (the Orange Hatters - and I considered joining them, but didn't because nobody was in charge)... the exact same people who pledged their blood and soul for Barack Obama, drawing halos around his head... it's all the same group of people.
And guess what? You make shitty decisions every time. You throw yourselves into bad plans with messianic religious fervor. Every single time, you brag about how you are "changing the paradigm," how what you're doing is "unprecedented" and can't be compared with anything else. Except, it can.
And I've had it. I don't trust you people, you seem just as dopey as ever. Oh so passionate... but oh so stupid. Now I can understand this once, twice, but THREE times? Now you are sitting in parks, with winter coming on, with no leadership, no plan, and waiting to be kicked out/arrested by the cops.
Take me to the adults, please.
That's kind of bitter but good medicine you're spooning out there. lol
When you find them, let me know. Until then, you may want to start the leading.
No, quite honestly I am probably just going to run far away from you. Naive, easily led people are sitting ducks to be appropriated by bad leaders. We've seen this throughout history. Dean was just politically unskilled, while Obama is just hollow... but the next bad leader you allow to take you over, could very well be a monster.
Do not assume that just because we're liberal, means that we can't be taken advantage of by a Hitler or a Stalin or a Gaddafi. Stupidity is not the unique quality of conservatives.
You are dodging the question. Where are the adults? Who, outside of a pitful congress, is trying to figure this stuff out? Im trying to ask you some things. Do you have answers?
The adults are working on various things locally - not engaging in childish grandstand plays in parks.
But that's not a good answer for you, I suspect, because you really want a new religious movement that will spread globally. You are trying to save something (an American way of life) that can't be saved. What you want to do, with the small level of actual power you have, is more feasible on a smaller scale (including investing in local banks instead of Bank of America etc).
Ok, I agree with the local banks thing. Im not looking for a religious movement etc, Im looking for people that are serious about figuring stuff out.
Do the groups you are talking about have a specific name, etc?
uh stop fighting
Obama won't be around in 2013. Obama doesn't WANT to be around in 2013. Tony Blair just made $27 Milliion dollars on the public speaking tour after relinquishing his role as Prime Minister. I anticipate Obama will make TWICE that. He's already accomplished exactly what he set out to do... and he's looking forward to a nice, long retirement at the age of 55.
I agree. Obama is the most vacuous personage ever elected to the presidency. There's no "there" there.
You know, when you have to write a book to explain yourself to the American electorate, maybe that's a hint that there really wasn't anything vital there to begin with.
It does not matter who is President since no one can fix the mess we are in right now.
I sense a great deal of sincerity and concern in your tone. But, allow me to qualify something that you may already suspect. The sole purpose of holding a political/public office nowadays is to increase one's "asking price". Book deals, Interviews, Speaking engagements, and Lectures can amount to more money than the CEO of Citibank earns in a year ($43 Million). For example, Newt Gingrich has already confessed that he is currently running for President only to increase the sale of his new Book and to subsequently increase his "value" in the Public Speaking marketplace. Sorry, I know it sounds cynical... but I speak the truth.
You do speak the truth.
Also, presidential campaigns are basically a two-year meal ticket for a candidate and his entourage. Running for office is their "job."
Never thought of that... but it sure would be a real treat to ride that two-year gravy train... like a rock star. No wonder these idiots get such a big head by the time they reach the Oval Office.
Interesting. So what do you see playing out? I can see them pulling some wild situation outta their asses and throwing the election to Biden or something.
Oh, I think Obama will run... as a lame duck candidate. The Democratic Party wouldn't back Biden if their lives depended on it. I predict that Biden will back out and Hillary may run with Obama as the VP Candidate. Or Hillary may run herself. But, in answer to your question, I see Romney winning by a landslide...