Forum Post: I hate the 1% ers. Will you kids go to bed hungry tonight? They say it's the American way. Does the company you work for spy on you?
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 18, 2011, 7:32 p.m. EST by USCitizenVoter
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I have a job and work 60 hours a week and live pay check to pay check. Do you like your boss? Does the company you work for give you a hoot about your welfare? Does the company you work for spy on you? The list could go on and on. Bottom line the 1% screw us and the people that are climbing the ladder don't give a crap about their co-workers. They say it's the American way.
Here is what I say "we the 99% are much better off than we think, thanks to Wall Street." Even if you lost your job, car and home and can barely buy food -
Imagine opening your refrigerator and finding it empty. Imagine opening your kitchen cabinets and having no food. Sadly, that’s the reality for 50 million United States citizens; they don’t know where their next meal is coming from. That includes over 15 million children and 3 million senior citizens.
Wall Street is here for you and you need to be here for them. The day of the reckoning is near.
waaaaaaaaaaahhhhh
nobody cares, loser
Reading your comments and the comments of others who seem to agree with you, it is not hard for me to understand why we are in the place we are in. Because a person falls upon hard times, they must be a loser; because they struggle, they deserve their plight; because they are in need, they are unworthy of assistance.
It is this heartlessness, selfishness and greed that is the reason we are here. Do you truly imagine that you will -- or can -- be at the level of the 1% because you are merely out for yourself and care nothing for anyone but your own needs?
Do you rely on no one else, in any way, to help you provide for those needs? Are you compeltely and totally self-sufficient -- no one to help you out in times of need? Have you ever asked another for help, in any way? If so, they, by your definition, you are not deserving of this help and, in true form of Nietsche, you should be swept aside as a weakling, unworthy of even life itself, so that the Ubermensch can flourish and create the truly worthy society.
Does the company you work for spy on you too?
If you a 1%er then you can kiss my
Are the middle class the 1% also? Do you hate us? Most folks I know are very happy. I'm getting ready to go on a Sunday drive. Maybe BBQ later. We are not all unhappy.
i don't hate you
Then give back a little more to a friend that you know has less than you.
No, thank you. I don't believe in handouts. But I do wish you the very best.
As the weather gets colder and the protesters figure out ways to get through the night without the sleeping bags and tents now banned from Zuccotti Park, it is the extraordinary care they have taken to welcome the mentally ill and the homeless drawn to their site that poses their greatest problem. Without either the power to tax or to build homeless shelters, Occupy Wall Street has taken upon itself to be more compassionate than the city.
Have you ever thought the reason you are where you are has to do with you and no one else is to blame?
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"Pal" you're the one putting this bullshit out there for other people to comment on...now is not the time to get all defensive.
Try living within your means and maybe you'd be able to save something out of your paycheck. And every company I've worked for (currently own my own business) has cared about my welfare, has not spied on me, and was far more than fair in their pay for the job I was doing.
I worked 50 hour weeks over the summer so that I can have money for school. In both jobs, I liked my bosses, they liked me and they didn't spy on me.
I don't work right now because I was smart and saved my money so that I don't have to while going to school.
It can honestly be done without bitching and whinging.
Did you save up $10,000 during the summer? How much does your school cost you? Do you pay rent? Do you have a car? Do you have health insurance? Do you have any life insurance? Do you eat a balanced diet? Are you a member of a church? Do you pay for you own cloths? Are you part of the occupy movement?
@USCitizenVoter - You should move back in with your parents. I'm sure that next you will come back with some whining story about how your parents were killed by Capitalism--then you would be missing my point all together. Quit being the victim.
Welcome Newbie to OWS. jenga5 I just noticed that you got your accout here at OWS today.
Glad I finally found you. I'm sure we will become fast friends, once you get past your victim mentality, of course.
No, about 3500. My school is public and I got loans to cover it, with a little extra to help for rent. I take the bus, my mom pays for health insurance (which I don't really need). My diet is what it needs to be to get by, no complaints here. I don't go to church and I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. I pay for my own clothes and I'm not apart of the Occupy Movement.
I'm probably going to get into Finance after I graduate though.
I would submit that you do not work right now because of all the things you mention yourself that someone is paying for you and because you going to be in debt for the amount (probably) of a new home by the time you get out of college. Your idea that you are self-sufficient is an illusion, fuzzyp. When the time comes to pay off those capitalist loans, I hope you have no plans on starting a family or living in your own home for a very long time. Alternatively, I hope you ahve a very good paying job. You're going to need one.
What I'm telling you is that your criticism of USCitizenVoter is misplaced. You suffer from the same short-sightedness that so many have.
And thank your mother regularly and deeply for paying for that health insurance you don't need. All it takes is one idiot running a stop sign when you just happen to be in the intersection and you'll find out very quickly how much you may need it for the rest of your life.
My major is financial economics so I'll get a solid job in finance or something. I'm gay so no kids or house. And my debt should be around 30-35k when I leave at the most (without interest).
I'll be fine because I have a plan of what things are going to look like. My goal is to make money.
I also don't drive so there's little risk of some idiot running into me at a stop sign.
You know, some people can figure a way to get out of the shit.
My 20 year old son lives at home works 40 hours a week at $9.50 per hour. Pays $50 per week for part of the home utilies, Pays for maintainence on his car, Pays for his car insurance, Pays for his car licence plate, pays for his cell phone, pays for his food if he eats out, pays for his health insurance at work, pays for his clothes, Has attended 1 year of college. This year he will save $10,000 for his next year of collage. He refuses to take out a student loan. I'm proud of him.
Ok, good for him. Sounds like things are going good.
So why are you complaining?
3 years ago my income was 90k year I took cuts for the company to survive the recession. My pay is 30k. year now. How would you feel if that happened to you?
Actually, USCitizenVoter, I would truly enjoy having a $30,000 per year job to support my mother and I. And, yes, we have a mortgage we are paying off. We work together and live as well as possible and are, for the most part, content.
While I sympathize with you for your circumstance, I have to imagine that -- just maybe -- when you were making the large salary, you never stopped to think that it may not always be there, and, consequently, you may have have a house much larger than you need, a car that that is far more luxurious and uneconomical than is practical, and perhaps have spent more money on the pleasures of life than are now available to you.
You are right -- I do not know you nor your circumstances -- and my suppositions are, indeed, generalizations that are always dangerous in such cases. But I state them AS generalizations, not as pointed accusatiosn twoard you, and mention them only for points for your consideration.
The phrase "Lifestyle to which we have become accustommed" comes to mind. It's the ". . . towhich we have become accustommed" part that is the problem. Perhaps we all -- including the 1% needs to rethink that part of our existence and find a more sustainable and a more reasonable balance in our lifestyle.
Not good. But economics isn't about how I feel. Appeal to emotions is also a fallacy.
Why didn't you leave?
Even though I have gone full circle in pay I feel lucky to have a deep customer base. If the economy does revive then I'll benifit from helping the company to survive. Some employees have moved on for better or worse. My home is almost paid for and it is valued at $200K. I have made a lot of good decisions in my days. No credit card debt. No car payments.
I work 60 hours a week
By the way, the US has the highest average and median wage of any country on the planet.
The 46.2 million Americans living in poverty was the highest in the 52 years since the Census Bureau began gathering that statistic and was up from 43.6 million in 2009. So what about the USA poverty levels and what is their average incomes?
Poverty in the US is not true poverty like it is across the world.
We are becoming the land of prisons and the home of the uneducated
If you act like an animal you should live like one. I have sympathy for very, very, few people who are in prison and I don't mind them staying there for a long haul.
Imagine opening your refrigerator and finding it empty. Imagine opening your kitchen cabinets and having no food. Sadly, that’s the reality for 50 million United States citizens; they don’t know where their next meal is coming from. That includes over 15 million children and 3 million senior citizens.
I don't have to imagine because I lived it. And then for a time I lived out of my car for several months. I did nbot blame anyone else for my situation.
I understand
That is why I volunteer for the local food pantry, lead the cub scouts pack, and coach soccer. That I had the kids volunteer for "America's Grow a Row" The group has donated over a million pounds of food.
I feel that is the real way to make a difference. I believe the people will always do a better job helping each other than the government will.
The great thing about grow a row is that you donate time and not money. You don't have to be wealthy to help others.
http://americasgrowarow.org/
There are many other ways to help.
Wonderful and I encourage others to follow you.
It is coming from the state. Anyone who can fill out the paperwork can have free food. In the US, poverty is actually correlated with obesity.
Yes take a look at the types of food that can be purchased with food stamps. Plus I think some people are convinced to buy $2. of chips instead of 2 apples for the same $1
I agree. We need to regulate what people use their food stamps for, especially since we eventually have to pay for the health consequences of choosing the potato chips.
It could be that the higher unemployment rate is due to the fact we have the highest average wage.
I know that you cannot force a company to locate here. The only thing you can do is prove to them that it is worth their while to pay the higher wage. In some cases we provide higher production and better quality than other countries.
Are they hiring?
Actaully they are hiring. If you have mechanical, welding, or quality assurance skills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
Do I like my boss? Oh yes I love her. She's pretty nosey and has to know all about me all the time. She knows what I am doing every single minute of every single day. heehee....I am self employed :)
Just saw this online and wanted to share....
Talk about the 1 percent. A new study shows about half the lawmakers in Congress are millionaires, and that their net worth has risen steadily since 2008 despite the financial crash. The analysis by the Center for Responsive Politics found that 250 members of Congress have an estimated net worth of at least $1 million. Though some members of Congress have tried to cozy up to the Occupy Wall Street protests and their message of representing 99 percent of America, assets of more than $1 million would easily put those lawmakers in the top 1 percent. And as it turns out, wealth knows no party. According to the report, 37 Senate Democrats and 30 Senate Republicans are worth more than $1 million. In the House, 110 Republicans and 73 Democrats enjoy the same status. The Senate is more flush with funds than the House. In the upper chamber, the median net worth of a senator is $2.63 million. For a House member, it's about $757,000. Those figures are up 16 and 17 percent, respectively, from 2008. The center crunched the numbers for each member of Congress by examining his or her publicly released assets and liabilities, then calculating the average between his or her minimum and maximum estimated worth. As several previous tallies have shown, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., came out as the wealthiest member in Congress -- with an average net worth of $448 million. Close behind were Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas; Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.; Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.; and Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis.
Bambi, Thank you great report
My company I work for since 10 years they spy on me. I thought it is only my company does this shit.
Here what I say "we the 99% are much better off than we think, thanks to Wall Street." Even if you lost your job, car and home and can barely buy food - Wall Street is there for you and you need to be there for them. The day of the reckoning is near.
The 1% relies on those ladder climbing wannabes to buffer them. They'll find out one day. Thanks for posting, i like your name. It's quite obvious that voter apathy (i'm guilty too) got us into this mess. I don't think the founding fathers felt 'law of the jungle' was the American way. People have forgotten about the true power of the vote... until the 99% showed up. Consider this: https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/
AFarewellToKings, Thanks and I agree with you all the way.
thanks Voter. here's a comment i made on another topic that you might like:
Sometimes it seems like OWS beats the drum of the right of the people peaceably to assemble but yet when I mention the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances I hear that that is not what OWS stands for, it's heirarchical, treasonous, or simply impossible. I appreciate that drafting that list is going to be a difficult task. It has to be acceptable to 99%, but I don't see how OWS is going to actually change anything if people don't use the right to petition as strongly as they've used the right to peaceably assemble. The right to petition is at the heart of this document yet the working group was removed from this website. Why and by who? In the wake of being evicted (when they should have acted first by declaring the occupation / assembly phase successfully concluded) why isn'tOWS beating the petition drum till their hands bleed? https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/ It was petitions that were ignored that led to the Suffolk Resolves in 1774 that led to the Declaration Of Independence. And you call yourselves Americans. I better stop, I'm getting angry
It's working here's a fact that the Mayor hates. According to a 15 November Siena College poll, by a 57-40% margin, New Yorkers think Occupy Wall Street should be allowed in public parks around the clock.
What I'm the most pissed about is the fact that our government with all of its intelligent minds available as resources waste the knowledge that man has accumulated over the years and continues to make terrible choices and decisions for our people.
Wall Street is here for the wealthy -- always has been and always will be. This country -- if you look through the actual history of it -- was founded for the same reason the Crusdaes were begun: to give ambitious, greedy white men a chance to become land owners and wealthy elitists. even the sainted Boston Tea Party, as we have learned it in school is a lie. The true reason for this was that the Tea Tax was TOO LOW, not too high. The British East India Company was bringing in tea that was selling for LESS than that provided by the colonial SMUGGLERS led by -- who else? John Hancock.
Here are some sources for you:
http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/the-real-reason-for-the-boston-tea-party/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x135617
My point is that this country was not ever intended to be a place where all men were created equal. In fact, according to law at the time, to be a "man" you had to be (of course) male, white, preferably of English descent (Irish were particularly hated) and OWN PROPERTY. Otherwise, you were merely chattle.
No, USCitizenVoter, Wall St. is NOT here for us. It is here to make sure the wealthy stay wealthy and maintain their power over those of us who carry their burden in order for them to be wealthy.
I have said this before, but will state it again: "For every rich man, there must be 500 poor" -- Adam Smith, "The Wealth of Nations"
Reading your circumstances, I ask myself questions concerning your statement that Wall St is here for us all. 1) If this is so, how thenb are you in the situation you are in? 2) Considering your situation, and considering that Wall St is here for us all, why have you not partaken of it to improve your circumstances? 3) IN what way do we "have to be there . . ."for Wall St. If we have no resources to apply to their activities, in what way can we support them? 4) What apocaplyptic "Day of Reckoning" to you imagine? Will the Messiah, Adam Smith ride down again on clouds of fire to smite those who do not truly believe in his Gospel of Greed? Will the True Believers be swept up to the Paradise of Tax-free income and the return to a True Balance of honest, profitable slave labor?
If that, my friend, is paradise, I'll join the forces of Satan in rebellion as soon as I arrive..
Lucifer/Satan could be doing good for the world since he takes all the evil souls to hell and punishes them for the lord. I'm not sure Satin is such a bad guy. Maybe someone changed the story line without realising they were portraying him as his Lords helper. That Holy book seems to confuse a lot of people you know.
The US Congress achieved something last week. In the face of an attempt to make school lunches healthier, politicians fought against a plan to limit the serving of fast food. Instead, the red tomato sauce used to make pizzas will remain officially classified as a "vegetable", so that they can still be served to the nation's schoolchildren. The move followed intense – and successful – lobbying by the frozen food industry.
What's wrong with pizza?
Bread, tomato, and cheese. It cover 3 of the four food groups. Italians practically live off the stuff and have done so since they were the Roman Empire.
A tomato is a fruit not a vegetable but the lobbyist power got the tomatoe sauce classified as a vegetable product to sell their product to our schools. The sales amount to a lot of revenue for the food industry. Billions of $$$$ per school year.
What difference does it make? Whether tomato == Fruit or veggie..... it's still good for you.
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3 years ago my income was 90k year I took cuts for the company to survive the recession. My pay is 30k. year now. How would you feel if that happened to you?
I would feel sad, dust my shoulders off, and hit the streets looking for a better way to take care of myself.
jenga5 is a Newbie enjoying his first day on OWS
USCitizenVoter is a bitter fool wasting his time whining instead of working to pay the bills he says he can't afford.
Hey there, welcome to the 21st century. Of course the company you work for spies on you. Seriously, if any of you are posting to this website from your workplace at any time, STOP NOW