Forum Post: i fully understand how this works.
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 5, 2011, 9:10 a.m. EST by Rob
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Disagree with OWS=troll Republican, tea party, or conservative = troll Capitalist=troll 53%r=troll How in the world can you say you represent 99% when you exclude the majority of Americans?
I think those who disagree should have a say. Its freedom of speech.
99% of people will not agree on much. Lately, I have been coming to this forum often. I can't help it. It is awesome to see so many different people with so many different opinions. People thinking for themselves. Before this movement, all I ever heard was people regurgitating what was on last nights news. Truly SICKENING. I can't speak for anyone else. But I am part of the 99% and I would LOVE to hear your thoughts. As long as they are YOURS!.
It seems anything against Obama and you are a troll. Freedom of speech is not to be found here.
Americans won't think for themselves.
read more -- http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
Americans either want an expert to think for them, many experts know nothing. You still need to choose an expert but there is no thought in doing that. Experts are never going to explain to their victims that they are only 10th best, they are all the best, or Americans want a quote from some big shot. Do they really listen to the quote because that quote is far superior?
Didn't the expert economists who testify before congress or advise the president, destroy the American economy. If it wasn't the experts who designed the strategy that has sunk America, did it all just happen by accident or destiny? I watch sports all the time. The experts are wrong about sports too, most of the time. In the stock market they cover themselves by claiming their advice is long term. There is no definition of long term.
I have been searching for an attorney to sue PIMCO. The class action securities practice is all done on a contingency. From the very beginning of my search I expected to find knowledgeable attorneys who could examine the evidence I presented to them and realize there was no doubt. That hasn't happened yet. They all run to an expert to tell them what to do.
I am very disciplined about using absolute facts with deductive reasoning to arrive at correct conclusions. I've done this since I took a logic course in 1960. I keep it real simple. That doesn't work because 99.999% of Americans are in a trance that is far stronger than I ever imagined. If the trance goes unbroken, nothing will work. People get pissed about the trance. They would rather be called a pervert or anything than admit they are in a trance.
I'll leave it to you to solve that problem. I don't know how to do it.
A decent number of the regulars here seem to have sort of uneasily accepted me even though I'm not always in unconditional agreement. I called out a lot of that kind of 'if you disagree then you are a troll' mentality when I thought that it was the dominant paradigm. But some of the reasoned responses that I've had recently have changed my mind about that.
For example, I was extremely critical of the shutdown of the Port of Oakland during this week's protest in this thread, but only one guy called me a troll, and even he engaged in conversation, instead of just a drive-by "TROLL!!" kind of thing. Nobody called me an 'idiot' or anything. I got thoughtful responses. Mostly disappointing responses, but reasonable ones.
There is a big difference between being uneducated, mistaken, or misinformed v. being a goddamn troll, shill, or propagandist.
There are all types on here! So be it!
Let this forum become the threshing floor then for idiots, fools and operatives.
So OWS is the uneducates, mistaken, or misinformed and those that disagree are the goddamn trolls?
Some of them maybe dumb as hell, but they still know they are getting screwed. They know they got no life, no work, no future, and they damn well know who is screwing them in the ass without even a reach around, the 1%.
Rob - you have to understand:
If Marxist/Socialists/Communists/Statists/Democrats tell the truth they are quickly rejected outright by most everyone since nearly every competent adult knows Marxism has failed at horrific human cost every time/every where it has been tried. Only by deceit & subterfuge can they hope to fool enough of the gullible & mentally deficient (Lenin's "Useful Idiots", see OWS for a large assorted collection) to seize power & impose their hideous, enslaving Marxism on the rest of us.
Should the OWS band of Marxist malcontents succeed in agitating (organizing) the gullible & ignorant into implementing their ideology, we too could soon join the wonderful "Workers' Paradises" of Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, China, Soviet Union. Places SO wonderful you are shot if you try to leave.
Always remember: Marxism is incompatible with truth which is why there is NO free press in the “Workers’ Paradise”
get over is already,. you are a "troll" because you come here to be only negative toward the subject of this forum,. if you do not like that go away,. it has nothing to do with disagreement (real criticism is welcome) and all to do with the non-reality based anti-logic that you post.
You want only those with rose colored glasses on this forum. A disagreement is always the negative of the argument. OWS will not listen to reason and are constantly harping that what they are doing is in the best interest of everyone (except the 1%, they can go to hell, right?). I come on hear and tell you that your movement is misguided and recommend ( as have many, many others) to go to DC, but I guess that just is not a sexy idea. I asked "where is the money going, where is the transparency" ( a reasonable question, don't you think?) Only to be labeled a troll, agent provocatuer, etc.. but the question never gets answered. From the outside this looks like nothing more than a group of angst filled people looking for some reason to exist. OWS claims to be politically independent, yet the only thing 99% about them is the number of protesters who will vote democrat. I have read rants about Fox news, Koch brothers and other conservative leaning entities and the bile thrown at them is repulsive. What about Pelosi, Obama, and the other left leaning entities? They are held up as being stymied by the right (though they hold the majority in the senate as well as owning the white house) I know OWS wants to distance itself from the anarchists and want to claim they do not represent OWS, but OWS owns that mess. You do not want disagreement, you want to brainwash people into thinking this is the way to go. I will not agree with you and I will voice my opinions and if it makes you angry, that is your problem.
Why on Earth would we go to DC before we're forced to go there?
If we end up in DC it's because the government has failed. We're giving them the ability to not lose. Let's hope they take it.
Occupt the forclosures- to hell with the parks.
Great points. Totally agree. I suspect there will not be a major move to focus on DC until/if a Repub wins in 2012.