Forum Post: I am going to interview with CNN tomorrow as OWS spokesperson
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 11, 2011, 8:58 p.m. EST by FriendIyobserver
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I am sitting down with Anderson Cooper to give him our view on where I am going to take the movement. Here are my talking points.
- We are tired of the 1% robbing and stealing from us
- Corporations are evil and make profits which is evil as well
- An egalitarian society where everything is bartered and there is no money is what we are working for.
- A violent and bloody overthrow of society is on the table, anyone who is not with OWS is against us.
- I don't want to pay student loans
Does anyone have anything they want me to pass on
-Chest
TROLL
fruitcake troll
full of crap, worst of the worst troll, troll by def.
Maybe you should stay home until you know what the fuck you are talking about.
Your out, don't ever come back to this website again. I speak for the 99%.
Eat a dick
How dare you insult me like that I am the voice, I am the message. One day you will be begging me for your life.
This is pathetic. You are not fooling anyone.
Go away stupid.
This post is bullshit. Another lame attempt to make us out to be psycho anarchist radicals. Don't fall for this crap. Instead focus on the ugly truth.
For example:
The most profitable industries in the world (energy, healthcare, finance) have been given billions in government handouts and tax breaks. Meanwhile, they keep raising charges causing hardship for millions. With all those massive handouts, tax breaks, and obscene charges, profits rise to record high levels. Millions in bonuses are paid to the executives. With record high profits, record high dividends are paid. 40% of all dividends in the United States are paid to the richest one percent. All of this causes a gradual concentration of wealth and income. This results in a net loss for the lower majority who find it more and more difficult to cover the record high cost of living, which again, is directly proportional to record high profits for the rich. As more and more people struggle to make ends meet, more and more financial aid becomes necessary. Most of which goes right back to the health care industry through Medicare, Medicaid, and a very expensive prescription drug plan. This increases government spending. This has been happening for 30 years now. During the same time, tax rates have been lowered drastically for the richest one percent. Especially those who profit from investments. These people pay only 15 percent on capital gains income. As even more wealth concentrates, the lower majority find it more difficult to sustain there share of the consumer driven economy. Demand drops as more and more people go broke. Layoffs results. Unemployment rises. This results in less revenue and more government debt.
Massive subsidies and tax breaks for Wall Street, massive tax breaks for the super rich, heavy concentration of wealth, record high charges along with record high profits and record high cost of living, more hardship for the lower majority, more government spending in the form of financial aid to compensate, more concentration of wealth, less demand, layoffs and unemployment. All of this results in slower economy and less tax revenue. At the same time more and more financial aid becomes necessary. It's a horrible downward cycle which gradually pushes the national debt higher and higher.
The other big factors are the wars in the Middle East.
This post is not intended to excuse those who sit on the couch collecting welfare, make no attempt to find work, or squease out kids they can't provide for.
The ugly truth. America's wealth is STILL being concentrated. When the rich get too rich, the poor get poorer. These latest figures prove it. AGAIN.
According to the Social Security Administration, 50 percent of U.S. workers made less than $26,364 in 2010. In addition, those making less than $200,000, or 99 percent of Americans (actually more like 98%), saw their earnings fall by $4.5 billion collectively.
The sobering numbers were a far cry from what was going on for the richest one percent of Americans.
The incomes of the top one percent of the wage scale in the U.S. rose in 2010; and their collective wage earnings jumped by $120 billion. In addition, those earning at least $1 million a year in wages, which is roughly 93,000 Americans, reported payroll income jumped 22 percent from 2009. Overall, the economy has shed 5.2 million jobs since the start of the Great Recession in 2007. It’s the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression in the 1930’s.
Another word about the first Great Depression. It really was a perfect storm. Caused almost entirely by greed. First, there was unprecedented economic growth. There was a massive building spree. There was a growing sense of optimism and materialism. There was a growing obsession for celebrities. The American people became spoiled, foolish, naive, brainwashed, and love-sick. They were bombarded with ads for one product or service after another. Encouraged to spend all of their money as if it were going out of style. Obscene profits were hoarded at the top. In 1928, the rich were already way ahead. Still, they were given huge tax breaks. All of this represented a MASSIVE transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Executives, entrepreneurs, developers, celebrities, and share holders. By 1929, America's wealthiest 1 percent had accumulated 44 percent of all United States wealth. The upper, middle, and lower classes were left to share the rest. When the lower majority finally ran low on money to spend, profits declined and the stock market crashed.
Of course, the rich threw a fit and started cutting jobs. They would stop at nothing to maintain their disgusting profit margins and ill-gotten obscene levels of wealth as long as possible. The small business owners did what they felt necessary to survive. They cut more jobs. The losses were felt primarily by the little guy. This created a domino effect. The middle class shrunk drastically and the lower class expanded. With less wealth in reserve and active circulation, banks failed by the hundreds. More jobs were cut. Unemployment reached 25% in 1933. The worst year of the Great Depression. Those who were employed had to settle for much lower wages. Millions went cold and hungry. The recovery involved a massive infusion of new currency, a World War, and higher taxes on the rich. With so many men in the service, so many women on the production line, and those higher taxes to help pay for it, some US wealth was gradually transferred back down to the majority. This redistribution of wealth continued until the mid seventies. By 1976, the richest 1 percent held less than 20 percent. The lower majority held the rest. This was the recovery. A partial redistribution of wealth.
Then it began to concentrate all over again. Here we are 35 years later. The richest one percent now own 40 percent of all US wealth. The upper, middle, and lower classes are sharing the rest. This is true even after taxes, welfare, financial aid, and charity. It is the underlying cause. No redistribution. No recovery.
The government won't step in and do what's necessary. Not this time. It's up to us. Support small business more and big business less. Support the little guy more and the big guy less. It's tricky but not impossible.
For the good of society, stop giving so much of your money to rich people. Stop concentrating the wealth. This may be our last chance to prevent the worst economic depression in world history. No redistribution. No recovery.
Those of you who agree on these major issues are welcome to summarize this post, copy it, link to it, save it, show a friend, or spread the word in any fashion. Most major cities have daily call-in talk radio shows. You can reach thousands of people at once. They should know the ugly truth. Be sure to quote the figures which prove that America's wealth is still being concentrated. I don't care who takes the credit. We are up against a tiny but very powerful minority who have more influence on the masses than any other group in history. They have the means to reach millions at once with outrageous political and commercial propaganda. Those of us who speak the ugly truth must work incredibly hard just to be heard.
Stop lying, I am the spokesman here. If you donate some money to the OWS website I may be inclined to mention you to Mr Cooper tomorrow.
I don't know who you are but no OWS spokesman would spout such radical crap. You know damn well we don't want to paint the streets with blood or destroy the very concept of business. We only want some reasonable degree of economic justice.
So take your outrageous radical crap and eat it.
I really don't like your tone. You don't speak for the group I do, I have legitimate support from the 99% i speak for them and I am going to give the movement the visual direction for this organization. We have too many conflicting views of what OWS is about, I am the unifier of everyone's messages. Violence will be a last resort, but people must take us serious. See my people are Serious people and I do mean serious.
Bullshit.
Anderson is not that stupid
Please tell them to go back to regular tv instead of this new kind, it is not as good because it starts an stops. The old had better static than this kind.
we don't need to speak as the group we are all individuals with their own ideals. your ideals does not represent the majority of the group. People have taken us seriously why do we have so much support. We have millions of people in the leaderless movement. your voice is just a small cry out of a sea of uproar. your voice means nothing. you bring nothing that has a valid point. here let me see your points again.
"Here are my talking points.
The 1% has not robbed us. You bought their products and the label. If you really want to stop the 1% don't buy their products don't use their crap. Don't support the people who support the 1%.
"2.Corporations are evil and make profits which is evil as well"
ok so you are saying if anyone earns a profit they are evil. You just called yourself evil you called everyone who had/has a job evil.
"3. An egalitarian society where everything is bartered and there is no money is what we are working for."
The first thing I'm not going to lug 5 goats around just to get a piece of technology. It will be a lot easier to steal peoples stuff if society turns to this. Money is a medium of barter. Just in this economy there are rules that are bad and good for the people.
"4. A violent and bloody overthrow of society is on the table, anyone who is not with OWS is against us."
We are not overthrowing society. At most we are going to change government or create our own. A violent and bloody way is not the best of ways as the us military will be able to squash any movement quickly.
"5. I don't want to pay student loans"
well if you were smart enough you would of gotten a job during college. you are only going to college full time for about 5hour a day. less time than a k-12 student goes through. Granted you are learning a lot more in such a short amount of time.
you are not very friendly nor observant. You only pick points you like and ignore the actual good points. Right now you sound like one of the 1% and the government
I was elected by the 99%. I speak and maybe considered radical but we need radical people in radical times. OWS is fragmented and needs direction that is where I came in. I speak for the 99%. If you don't like what I got to say, then you are free to leave the movement.
In the end even if you "go on tv" and go over your points. you will be laughed at for your ideals because they are bad and not thought out.
I highly doubt you were elected if anything you just rigged the votes if this was any sort true. Radical people are not needed in this day and age at least not yet. You can not speak for a group of individuals who has their own opinions. To me you sound like a Nazi or the American government if i do not see it your way then you will die because of it/or imprison.
1 is true. 2 is silly. While it is true that corporations focused solely on profit making ability cannot care about customers or employees, making a profit is not inherently evil. It's when you make record profits through ethics violations that it's evil 3 would be a hassle. I'd rather use a single currency based on gold.
Did you want to represent OWS on cnn? OWS is getting no respect because everyone has a different view of our goals, I am unifying those goals and if your not with OWS then you are the 1% and you will be dealt with in due time.
OWS is a leaderless movement with actions voted on by general assemblies. Getting on the news by yourself is against what this movement stands for. You are one face in a mass of people (the 99%)
We don't need people going on CNN or Fox to clarify our position. We need the media to look at our entire movement and figure it out for themselves. Not that they will, they are owned by the 1%.
OWS is evolving I am a representation of that. I was voted in by the 99%. We are focusing our message and making an impact. A complete overhaul of our system needs to be done. OWS is not going to be a water cooler joke anymore, its going to be some serious stuff.
I realize that, however I thought we were a little farther back in the process.
The only unified objectives of OWS that I know of are:
Anything else I've heard is from individuals with their own objectives.
This approach will turn off the 99% for sure.
I speak for the 99% and they will fall in line or will submit to our demands.
wow sounds like a Nazi
CNN. The Celebrity News Network. What a bunch of rotten sold-out pigs. It's bad enough that they constantly praise celebrities for their bogus fake humanitarian crap every time they have a new movie, show, CD, fashion line, or some other over-priced crap to promote. All while COMPLETELY IGNORING the record high concentration of wealth that filthy rich celebrities represent. That's bad enough.
But now, they have the nerve to hype up a new show about 'heroes' and claim that its about ordinary people. It's not. It should be but it's not.
IT SHOULD BE BUT ITS NOT. Those 'ordinary people' are being exploited for ratings and PR. How do I know this? That's easy.
The show will be hosted by Anderson Cooper. The CNN poster boy. His face appears on every single ad for the show. EVERY SINGLE ONE. That wasn't necessary. The show will be attended by the same filthy rich celebrity pigs that CNN commentators constantly praise for their bogus 'good will' and fake humanitarian crap. That isn't necessary.
Mark my words: Those celebrity pigs won't be upstaged by 'ordinary people'. No way in hell. THEY REFUSE TO BE UPSTAGED BY ANYONE. They won't stay seated. They won't stay in the background. They have agreed to attend the show in part, to give the ILLUSION that they are humble and modest. They are not. They all have ulterior motives. Every single one of them.
Mark my words: Those filthy rich celebrities have already negotiated with CNN for their own airtime. Their faces will be shown OVER AND OVER AND OVER during the show itself. They will be mentioned by name and invited to appear on stage during the show.
FILTHY RICH CELEBRITY PIGS WHO ALL HAVE NEW PRODUCTS TO PROMOTE. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. THEY ALWAYS HAVE ULTERIOR MOTIVES. ITS AWAYS ABOUT MARKETING. ITS ALWAYS ABOUT PROMOTING THEMSELVES. THIS IS NO EXCEPTION. THEY CANT EVEN STEP ASIDE AND LET A FEW REAL HEROES HAVE THEIR OWN FUCKING DAY WITHOUT SHOWING THEIR ROTTEN CELEBRITY FACES. ITS A SHAM. ANOTHER ROTTEN MARKETING TRICK.
Of course, there will be scripted lines. The ordinary people were chosen in part, for their willingness to show love for their favorite celebrities or fake it for the camera. Of course, there will be celebrity praise. Maybe, even fake tears. Just remember: Commercial airtime is incredibly valuable. Each minute of commercial airtime is worth six or seven figures. They aren't allocated unless there is a profit to be made. These shows don't just happen. They are carefully planned and rehearsed ahead of time. Every single participant has been coached on what to do and what to say. This includes the ordinary people. Most of whom probably don't realize that they are being exploited by CNN. The Celebrity News Network.
CNN. It's bad enough that they constantly praise filthy rich celebrity pigs for their bogus fake humanitarian crap. They even devoted an entire segment in December of '09' to Madonna and her now disgraced 'Raising Malawi' foundation. That's bad enough. But they can't even throw a bone to a few ordinary people without including a bunch of filthy rich fake humanitarian celebrity pigs.
ALL OF WHICH HAVE NEW PRODUCTS TO PROMOTE. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
It makes me sick.
Good will has become big business.
Most of us don't support violence. You sound like a worse tyrant than the tyranny we are fighting. The easiest way to defeat OWS is by people who advocate violence and use it. They will send out the national guard, and the people will be welcome them. Please reconsider your methods before you make a grave mistake.
Listen I am the one giving orders, and I will ban from the movement. You are a tool of the 1% you will play by their rules. The national gaurd are on my side.
I'm not sure we have consensus on your five points.
Items 2,3,4 need a bit of tweeking to provide a certain nuance to them, we don't want to terrify the public,
and item 5 is a personal matter - while I agree that it is completely unreasonable and insane to meet this generation's obligation to educate the next and do so by placing the next in a form of indentured servitude, it remains that we must present this idea in a manner that does not come off as selfish or self serving.
We want to attract the public.
NOT scare the shit out of them.
Whose side are you on again?
This has got to be a decoy troll post.
yeah, I think friendly observer isn't either friendly or observant
The public will submit to our demands or they will be serious consequences for messing with OWS. We are the 99% and I am going to throw our weight around.
yeah-ya.
throw your weight around - all ten pounds of it - I know you have it all in a five pound bag . . .
you blivet
LOL...
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The problem isn't the 1%. It is the stupid 99% that allowed the less the 1% to kick their butts. Education is the key. If you remain stupid, you will get the same results. Protesting is not a strategy or a plan. It's only confirmation that we don't know what to do except lash out like children in anger. Wake up people!
FIGHT THE CAUSE - NOT THE SYMPTOM
Read “Common Sense 3.1” at ( http://www.revolution2.osixs.org )
Do you know what real freedom is? http://WeAreFree.osixs.org
LOL, just ask Anderson who pays his salary!!!
Yeah! Yeah! Eating the Rich will also solve world hunger
Oh you are right. You have a right to the money you make but if someone makes more than you it is automatically wrong. Its basic human greed with a nice little humanitarian load of bullshit thrown in. It sounds to me that you are just in it for yourself. There hasn't been much talk about being violent or bloody anywhere on this forum so I'm not sure where you are getting these ideas
I speak for the 99%. I was elected by all the general assemblies and I am going to define the movement's messages. I am the 99%. maybe my personality is a little extreme but extreme times call for extreme people.
I am against you. Please come at me.
I think conservatives should be rounded up for re-education. I would like to force rich people out of their fancy houses and move my no working ass in there. I think I should be guaranteed a living, nothing fancy, cable, food, internet, rent, small car.
You got it buddy I was thinking about rounding up anyone who disagrees with us and having them reeducated, if they cannot be changed they will be permanently reeducated if you know what I mean. OWS is serious these days. No more letting the evil 1% push us around. We own the streets.
why don't you suggest that we reoccupy Zuccoti park
Excellent point, I am going to suggest we occupy the White House as a way to garner support, Obama has told me personally he would welcome us and our message in Washington, I think I will take him up on that offer.
Article 5 NOW!
State "The demands are real and law of article 5 of the constitution shows that a convention to propose amendments can indirectly act to meet demands and provide permanent relief in defense of the constitution for the 99%"
Article 5 NOW!
Lessig power point on article V http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gpbfY-atMk
Lots of facts here about Article V. http://algoxy.com/poly/article_v_convention.html
Article V conference, Lawrence Lessig at harvard 9/25/11-other attendee video comments http://vimeo.com/31464745
You got it buddy I will let him know comrade.
FriendlyObserver, I can't think of a better person to officially represent OWS on Anderson Cooper 360. Make sure you do that thing where you answer a question with an even vaguer question.
I don't like your tone, I will boot you from OWS, you are a card carrying member of the 1%. Don't you dare come back to this website.
But I support you representing OWS!