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Forum Post: I agree Carbon Dioxide is a Green House Gas

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 13, 2011, 9:23 p.m. EST by EsotericAgenda (34)
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I agree Carbon Dioxide is a Green House Gas, but you will never stop CO2 from being in the atmosphere. We need it, we each produce it in cellular respiration, and with out CO2 we would not have O2. You can legislate all you want but in the end the common man will suffer and the rich will benefit from any CO2 legislation. That is why this theory of CO2 driven global warming is so popular, the elite stand to make a fortune in taxes if people agree that this is such a problem that governments have to take action.

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[-] 3 points by Corium (246) 13 years ago

I recently read the world population has reached 7 billion people... 7,000,000,000! Wow, that's a lot of people! I began to think... How much air does each of us get? If you take the earths entire atmosphere and divide it equally by 7 billion, how big would each persons "box" of atmosphere be at sea level? (I'll put the math at the end.)

The answer is 22,704,000,000 cubic feet per person.

That's a box 1 mile X 1 mile X 814.39 feet high. That's it!

To put that into perspective... If your piece of the atmosphere were as wide and tall as a football field; your "box" would be 300 feet wide, 300 feet tall, and just under 47.8 miles long.

Imagine that! Seriously think, what if all the air you have for your entire life were in a box 300 X 300 feet, 47.8 miles long, and everything you do to your air stays in your box.

What kind of car would you drive? How would you heat your home? How far would you drive every day? Would you protect the trees in your "box"?

Because what you do to your air in your 20s would determine what you breath in your 80s.

The sad truth is the only reason those of us in the developed world can live the way we do, is because most of the world isn't developed. There's a farmer in Bhutan whose simple low impact life means the rest of us get a bigger "box". That said we in the developed nations should all realize how lucky we are. We have a responsibility to be thoughtful in the decisions we make that impact the atmosphere, because one thing is certain. If everyone in the world affected the atmosphere like the typical American, we'd all be in trouble very quickly.

The math...

The atmosphere has 11,353,000,000,000,000,000 pounds mass of air (source Wikipedia - or you can calculate it by multiplying 14.7 by the number of square inches on the surface of the earth)

At sea level 96 F dry air is 14.005 cubic feet per pound mass, and 78 F saturated air is 14.003 cubic feet per pound mass. It's less at colder temperatures. (source Fan Engineering book eighth edition by Buffalo Forge Company)

Multiply the mass of the atmosphere by 14 and you'll get total cubic feet of the atmosphere at 14.7 psia between 78 and 96 F depending upon humidity.

The answer is 158,928,000,000,000,000,000 cubic feet.

Now divide that by 7,000,000,000 people.

You'll get 22,704,000,000 cubic feet per person.

5280 x 5280 x 5280 = 147,197,952,000 cubic feet per cubic mile. Divide that by 22,704,000,000 and you'll get 6.48335 people per cubic mile of atmosphere.

5280 feet / 6.48335 people = 814.393939393939 feet for 1 mile square

300 feet x 300 feet = 90,000 square feet. (height and width) 22,704,000,000 cubic feet / 90,000 square feet = 252,266.667 feet (length)

252,266.667 feet / 5280 feet per mile = 47.777778 miles (length)

[-] 0 points by EsotericAgenda (34) 13 years ago

what percent of ambient air is CO2?

[-] 1 points by Corium (246) 13 years ago

Very very small... if I recall far less than 1%, but my point isn't based on CO2. It's based on the combined effect of our American lifestyle, if we had to keep the air we screw up.

[-] 0 points by EsotericAgenda (34) 13 years ago

It is less than 1%. We should be connected to nature, but this can not be done through legislation and force. That will only lead to the elites benefit, the common man will be screwed.

[-] 1 points by roloff (244) 13 years ago

I agree that you are an asshole

[-] 0 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 13 years ago

Agreed. The jury is still out as to how much of an impact man has on the subject of global warming. And with all due respect to Al Gore, I take with a grain of salt the word of anyone who pushes an agenda that they stand to make millions from. At any rate, this carbon credits idea is just the latest big-time SCAM designed to make a handful of people much wealthier while doing absolutely nothing to actually reduce greenhouse gases.

[-] -1 points by RexDiamond (585) from Idabel, OK 13 years ago

More C02 is released by decaying plant matter than anything we could dream of producing. The climate is changing. Just like it has been changing ever since the earth has been present.

[-] -1 points by KahnII (170) 13 years ago

Until Al Gore actually produces evidence that stands up to a scientific rebuttal than he just continues to be full of shit. CO2 is not the culprit, climate is not static it's dynamic. How else can you explain the ice age up to now? If climate were static most of the hemisphere would still be covered in ice. People aren't the problem, it's the natural evolution of the planet. The North African desert used to be a lush tropical forest for crying out loud. People like Al Gore are just sniveling 1%'ers who have found a way to sucker you out of your money, and they call that way "global warming" or "climate change."

[-] -3 points by EsotericAgenda (34) 13 years ago

Do you support government intervention when it comes to Carbon Dioxide?