Forum Post: How They Are Planning to Defeat You (OWS Supporter)
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 16, 2011, 11:57 a.m. EST by SingularTruth
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from Washington, DC
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Read this, please. I will not be able to post again.
I was on a research team created during the 2011 Egyptian revolution. The group consisted of governments, corporations, military, intelligence agencies and others. Representative from the US, the UK, Saudi, China (yes, China participates..don't believe the press), Rand Corp, Goldman, the Joint Chiefs, and others were there. We created models that simulated and reviewed the Egyptian revolution with an idea to blocking similar movements. They were scared, never having seen a meaningful movement develop that fast. They are still frightened, even more so after yesterday.
We determined that the key, the critical point of failure was the military and the police. Control them, and Mubarak is still in power. Thus, we determined that the key to blocking these movements was to maintain control of the local police. The local police must not be allowed to become sympathetic to the protest. If this takes bribes, money, threats, whatever, we determined this was the thing to do. As Syria developed, we determined to use it as a test case. Theory confirmed. If you control the local police and they are ruthless with the demonstrators, momentum can be stopped. Notice what they are doing. This tactic worked in London, Boston and Denver. It will work in DC and NYC, too.
You must get the local police on your side. Not the officers, but the Patrolmen and Women.
Speed is your critical advantage. Move so fast that the old control mechanisms no longer work.
One other thing: our models showed that if the protests are willing to bear the cost of significant casualties, if they continue to reform and regather time after time after time, then, while they will be weaker since reactionary forces will have a chance to infiltrate deeply, they will ultimately be successful.
Good luck.
I don't know the first thing about your credentials, so I don't have much faith in your claim to empiricism.
But I think we already know that we can not win - and we can not hope for legitimacy - if we dehumanize and vilify the people who make up our police force, or the people who make up our military. We may have some problems with the structures as they currently stand, but we must - as a moral imperative - separate the individuals from the structures. The men and women on the ground are people, just like we are, and deserve to be judged as individuals.
I am just curious
Why didn’t you mention that the blog sites would be infiltrated with distracters, liars and people who divert blame and cause phony reasons for alarm. They are a dime a dozen here, but are pretty transparent
That’s what I would have my men in black do first.
I feel I need to mention that your life might be in danger. If you were in the kind of a high level meeting you claim, their operatives on this site probably know who you are. Grab some shit and run.
I agree that people are trying to divert our attentions.
If they can't they'll just pose as OWS people propose radical extremist views so they can paint us as the lunatic fringe.
As long as you stick to what seems to me the core message, they will reveal what they are all about
To me the core message is end the corporate corruption that is facilitated and enabled through collusion with our government (my opinion)
ANYTIME the "99%" police come down to the park, gently ENCOURAGE them to leak documents/information about this crackdown!
Hold up signs describing where to leak documents, and how to switch to our side!
Follow them! Gently, but CONSTANTLY plead with them to help us!
To be honest I think when the snow and 0 degree weather moves in this will move off the street. Although we should come together on one site to exchange ideas and debate and to help everyone stay informed. Not copying and pasting links to 5 websites on neo nazi or w/e keep it to a single link per post at least and we should all at least read over what everyone is saying. How else are we going to come together and fix anything or address any concern. We can't fix everything at once.
... not much time... they're coming for me
it was operation blackbriar
the jets were a cover up
the moon landing was a hoax
...idiot
Well, that's a good point.
Are the police on our side? Do they represent the 99%?
I don't think it was very successful in Syria... unless you call 'success' descending into civil war instead of reform. Right now at best one could describe Syria as tottering on the brink of disaster.
Thank you for your words of wisdom. Their tactics are obvious, and I sincerely hope it's beyond their control at this point. Their paper money and violent threats have no match against a revolution inspired by truth.
Oh let them infiltrate.
The only thing they can do is ask us to play their game of hide and seek.