Forum Post: How OWS has neutralized any chance for genuine reform.
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 16, 2011, 4:19 a.m. EST by GlobalTruth
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Adhereing to a leftist agenda has done nothing but entrap the idea itself and the mindsets of all participants into the false and deluded left right paradigm. Occupy Wall Street could have capitalized on the general populist anger of the American people that has been for years released against perceived government corruption, the Federal Reserve, occupation of foreign countries and nation building and other poor polices that are never changed from one administration to the next, but instead, it became clear at some point that this was to be a movement which made class warfare its agenda, effectively making its leverage nearly nothing.
The issue of taxing the rich more should have never been brought up due to plenty of other items to resent and the divisiveness of the issue. I am still confused though why so few of you address the current activities of the government. Sympathetics of OWS may direct blame at the government, but still are so blind as to not see that Obama has already proven himself to be a worse president than George W. Bush, and still mantain that Obama is their best option against any of the republican hopefuls (including Paul and Huntsman?)... please, you only further prove the founders right for their criticism of too much democracy and justify voting requirements in my mind. What has Obama done to warrant even the slightest approval? He has proven himself a liar as concerns NAFTA, GATT, and Iraq. Along with this, he has eseclated the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan, at the same time, he is using the American military to help jihadists establish Shariah in Libya in a brand new war while America is allegedly trying to stop jihad around the world! Among other things, as far as anyone knows, Obama has never came out and opposed in any form the instution of the federal reserve, a privately owned and operated bank that alone controls the monetary system.
So what will it be? Will OWS continue to define the debate in left right terms, or will it render itself as a genuine problem to the New York and London based international bankers which are currently taking this country over in a hostile communist fashion with its continued forced integration, globalism, and virtual unchallenged ownership of the American government.You could have cultivated a powerful universal movement against all of this historically unprecedented corruption and malpractice, but obviously either a large blunder was orchestrated, or OWS has since nearly the beginning as suspected by some been serving its real goal or end which all along has been to make real opposition impossible.
"Obama has already proven himself to be a worse president than George W. Bush." No one is defending Obama but to let Bush off the hook only makes your argument not credible. Bush's decisions in office has royally fucked up this country probably for the next twenty years, you obviously bow down to playing the Republican Democrat con game. When in doubt blame the other guy, grow up there is plenty of blame to go around.
Bush was no prize. Obama is dangerous. The people who make the rules (congress) need to live under them the same as you and I. All I ask is a level playing field. No special favors asked or given. I am a survivor.
Thank you, at least someone makes sense, how quickly people forget Bush.
the left right paradigm is a construct of our political system because there is no compromises, the electorate feels that congress is comprised of socialist and fascias. but the truth is that the congress is inflicted as to what direction to go. get moderates into congress and prosperity will revive.
We are just getting started. This is bigger than left or right.
What is just getting started, The fires and murders? Do you suppose that 99% of america is really down with that?
The transformation
Of those who consider themselves to the left, and by this I don't mean communist or those opposed to any form of capitalism, I don''t see a lot of satisfaction with Obama. Support for Gatt, NAFTA, and free trade, free market ideology is not leftist. Neither is the never ending war policy. The free market, globalist ideology that you describe,is neoliberalism, not leftist.As for the assertion that the Fed is privately owned, that whole meme is a "red herring". The Fed was "privatized" only to try to afford it some distance from party politics. The chairman and the board of governors are appointed by the president, and confirmed by congress. The Fed may have made some policy errors, but it is not the institution itself that has caused all the problems.
You might like to have a read about what the Fed has been up to, and I would not call it "Policy Errors" at all.
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/10.11/gaoaudit.html
What was revealed in the audit was startling:
$16,000,000,000,000.00 had been secretly given out to US banks and corporations and foreign banks everywhere from France to Scotland. From the period between December 2007 and June 2010, the Federal Reserve had secretly bailed out many of the world’s banks, corporations, and governments. The Federal Reserve likes to refer to these secret bailouts as an all-inclusive loan program, but virtually none of the money has been returned and it was loaned out at 0% interest. Why the Federal Reserve had never been public about this or even informed the United States Congress about the $16 trillion dollar bailout is obvious - the American public would have been outraged to find out that the Federal Reserve bailed out foreign banks while Americans were struggling to find jobs.
If you wish to use stronger language than, policy errors, I am not likely to argue with that. Do you think that this was carried out without the knowledge of the treasury, which is not "private" at all? I doubt it. This brings us back to some of the other serious mistakes made by our elected government, such as NAFTA,GATT and the Iraq debacle that you rightly point out. These seem to be massive policy mistakes to me, but I'm not ready to blame it on our form of government. I do agree that we have an uninformed electorate in this country, or maybe an indoctrinated electorate would be more accurate.