Forum Post: How many "protestors" are being paid??
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 11, 2011, 1:29 p.m. EST by necropaulis
(491)
This content is user submitted and not an official statement
I was looking through the want ads, and found a posting about protesting for Occupy whatever, it took me to a link called Working America where you can protest for 32k a year, full benefits, paid vaca, etc. Now I see how some of you can sit in a park for 10 weeks and not sweat it. You're being paid to do it.... Pretty sweet scam "occupants".
If they ran this on Fox news, conservatives and Republicans would be dumb enough to believe it.
They would be using it to prove how Georges Soros is footing the bill
For crying out loud...that the best you can do? Working America dot org. A non-profit organization. Evidently they have adopted the 99% slogan...Jeez...
Necropaulis, Busted.
Thanks for providing the link to the information that outed your claim.
Are you retarded or something ? Then again your a Republican. No need to answer that question. Don't want you to waste the last 2 brain cells you have left on that simple question.
Anyway, Working America is a left wing / pro union lobbyist group. It has nothing to do with OWS other then it supports our message. Also, the $32 K per year job is for field managers. People who organize ((( their ))) event's. Not the OWS movement.
Now that we got that all cleared up. I highly suggest you rent a gun, buy a bullet. Load the gun or get some one to do it for you, Put it to your head and pull the trigger... Do your part to make the world a better place.
Well you're just sunshine and butterflies aren't you?
Working America is the community affiliate of the AFL-CIO and has nothing to do with OWS. I personally am a part time occupier. I have talked to dozens of occupiers in at least 5 different occupations and I have yet to meet a single person who is paid to occupy. Very early on OWS developed an extremely healthy relationship with sectors or organized labor, but it is just that, a relationship. That is, organized labor and OWS are two separate entities. While it is true that some professional labor organizers have been charged by the organizations that they work for to act as liasons with the occupy movement, they are not themselves occupiers and I know of no occupier who has ever been paid for occupying.
How do you know?? You don't find it odd that some -not all- don't go to work for months, but don't worry about cash, rent, etc?? In a relationship(work and otherwise), there is give and take. What's to say some workers haven't been given to some camps??
I know how OWS people survive. Mostly, before the evictions, they were able to live on essentially a money free economy. They got all the food they needed for free and other needs like clothing, tents, sleeping bags were provided by the Comfort Working Group and they could avail themselves of one of the really great libraries at the People's Library at the occupation.
Since the eviction the Housing Working Group scrambles every night to find housing for more than 200 people. They are also providing people with metro cards so they can get back and forth from where they are sleeping to Zuccotti Park and 60 Wall Street. But essentially they are still unemployed and living outside the money economy as are many among the perpetually unemployed. A few do still have unemployment benefits that have not run out. But they are most certainly not being paid in the sense of having a wage or a salary, any more than any homeless person who finds shelter for the night would consider that shelter a salary or a wage.
I have a job. I don't make a lot of money but I always make a few bucks contribution every week. The expenditures of the Finance Working Group are very closely scrutinized by the nightly GAs.
That would be expensive besides that would hurt the cause as they would hurt us in moral law (read the art of war).
I keep the Art of War on my bed stand. And that was kinda my point.
I have been paid to gather signatures, register people to vote. Many considered me a protester. Thing is, there has been no statewide CA petition to qualify for the ballot without the support of paid signature gatherers. Would I do it for free if I had the luxury? Sure I would. In fact, issues that affected the wealthy had lots of volunteers, but still not enough without paying some.
I have heard rumors that there were some occupants being paid, but I have no idea as to how much of this is really going on. With that said, I can't really say that I am against it, so long as we do not simply go up to random people and encourage them to join.
I used to work for PIRG. They tend to go from house to house trying to raise funds for a variety of social matters. I got paid to do this. I was never fond of the door-to-door approach, but I needed money at the time, and it was a job that I thought was simply making a difference than just simply working as a stock boy or cashier in some supermarket. It was also much easier to get in with PIRG than many other jobs, especially if you had good knowledge of social issues that were relevant to their work.
Say that PIRG paid a few to protest? Would I support that? Probably. As long as they didn't go around handing money to random people and asking them to join. If it's a job, then people have to come and ask. It has to be their decision. I have no idea whether or not PIRG does any of the sort, but I don't have a problem with this, for the most part.
The point I was making is don't you think it kinda hurts their case?? How many jobs did you have where you could honestly not care less about the people you work for?? If I got paid 32k + to hang out in a park, I would jump on it.
The jobs within our economy that actually make a difference are often low paid or heavily involve volunteer work. It is very hard to actively make a living in an attempt to make the world a better place. Unless you are a manager or some other form of high official, even the charity non-profit world is out of reach. It is part of the reason as to why charity groups often tend to be perceived as being corrupt, since the high officials make all the decisions and often determine how the money is utilized.
If charities and similar non-profits can't find a way to utilize employment, then I doubt that Occupy will be doing that. PIRG is very low paid. If we can find a way to bring employment to more charitable and progressive causes, then I am for it.
I understand it's low paying. Which is why I get your point about the corruption. Why would any corrupt person want to waste their time with that. No offense, but they could be making real money somewhere else. Which is why I think their good. I'm not saying Occupy is paying for it. I just thing these groups/labor unions are paying people to pad numbers.
Dick Armey is making over $500K from Americans for Prosperity (Koch Industries) To create, organize and manage the Tea Party. Does that hurt their case? More than a few people making $8.50 per hour? How many? It is OK to buy politicians though, right? Take your pick.
Ha! Dick Armey! It's not okay to buy politicians. It also doesn't make it right to buy protestors either.
In the civil war and many others, people paid other people to join the army. Was that wrong? Wrong for both parties? Now, were any people actually hired to act as protesters? And, did they represent themselves to be OWS people?
I could hire people to mow your lawn but they wouldn't be you, and they probably couldn't convince you or your family that they were you. And they might not be able to convince your neighbors that they were you. And even though I paid them to mow your lawn, I wouldn't expect them to vote for your or buy cars in your name. That would be fraudulent and wrong for them to do.
The guy that shakes the bell by the red pot outside the store, isn't really a member of the Salvation Army. He's just a guy trying to make a couple of bucks for a cup of coffee or something. Shame on him?
No shame you're right. I also just think it's kinda interesting also.
Since I am the leader of OWS, I demand to know who is paying. I should be getting paid the most.
george soros, acorn, Tides.
If I tell you, can I be second in command??
Sheesh, I thought I was the leader, did I miss a meeting? Crud, I was all ready to go, too, when the aliens land and say "take me to your leader." But, ok, you guys can come-- there's probably lots of room. I heard the aliens harvest asteroids that are solid gold, we're all gonna get rich!
NO I am leader motherfucker and if you have a problem I will boot you from OWS, Do you understand asshole? I don't like your crack about aliens. I am truly the leader of OWS watch me on CNN tomorrow.
Take it easy there.
Friendly called OWS, he should run the east coast, where are you?? You can have that half of the country if in the west. You get from Alabama north and west. If your from the south, we can split it at, say Virginia's southern border. Fair??
I just want a small chunk of East Central Illinois, maybe part of western Indiana-- it's lovely in the fall. Oh, and I want a crater on the moon, but I'll wait for the saucer gang to hook me up there :) Ok, I don't really want to be a leader, I'm not nearly tall enough. You guys can have that gig. I want to be... Hmmm... Well, I'll figure it out some day. Oh wait! I've got it! I want to be... An active participant in reforming our government :) I'll try to hook up with the U of I folks, maybe they have a leader, already? By the way, I heard somewhere being a protester pays pretty well bwahahahahaha!
Invader Flobee called the moon, but we can talk to him and see if he'll split it with you (he's pretty flexible). On Earth, you may have ALL of Illinois and Indiana. Nobody has claimed those.
Ack ack ack ACK! Ack ack ack ACK ACK!
(deal!)
At least they are working. That is better than sitting on the sidewalk begging for alms from unfeeling passers by.
No argument there. But I even put in an application, and I could care less. Picking up what I'm putting down?? They think everyone is with them, when who knows how many are getting paid to do it?? I can fake it for a few hours for that kind of a hook up.
Sign me up!!! Please share a link.
LOL this post was a hoot.
check below
How about PROVING your outlandish claim, huh?
"necropaulis " = long outed T R O L L
It's not outlandish, don't you think it's a little odd these people can carry on for months without going to work and not worry about getting kicked out of their houses?? I'm not a troll. I don't write without fact. So, without further ado:
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/npo/2744106338.html
Do you really expect us to believe in the authenticity of a want ad on CRAIGSLIST????
LMAO
You have to pay to post an ad. If you actually look instead of sidestepping, like most of the weak minded on this site do, you will see where the link on that site goes. You guys believe everything YouTube has to say, but notreputable sources. It's people like you who make this whole thing laughable. Of course, you could also look at what people have to say above. Not to mention more people get jobs on craigslist than on some other employment sites.
"You have to pay to post an ad." LMAO Talk about WEAK arguments from a WEAK-MINDED TROLL!
Has it occured to you that the 1% just might have the BUCKS to spread disinfo through Craigslist? Gee, ya think???????
It costs $25 to post a want ad. Look above. Betuadollar is getting 8.50 to protest. YOU are the weak minded one. Unless these people are independently wealthy, then how do they not lose their jobs and housing?? Do some research, fool. But then, it goes against what you think, so you most likely won't. You are the weak minded troll. aeturnus got paid to go door to door to get people to listen to whatever cause PIRG had going on.
What's wrong with getting paid?? THose teabaggers got paid and they had to clean up after themselves at their rallies at least we get to shit and litter wild and free!
Nothing at all. Every party did and still does. I just wondered if they knew some of their people were paid to be there. How do you think some of these people can go months without going to work, which how are they going to pay their responsibilities??
That's funny; they're only paying us 8.50 an hour (part time, without bennies) in Alabama.
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9654-acorn-officials-cover-up-occupy-wall-street-involvement It is proven that some were paid to protest.