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Forum Post: "How It Happens - "Big Finance" Takes the Gains and Leaves Us With The Losses

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 9, 2011, 8:27 p.m. EST by opensociety4us (914) from Norwalk, CT
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There’s no doubt that the financial instruments used in transactions causing the above may be complex (not always) and unless one is working with them on a daily basis or studying them it should not be expected that one would understand them quickly. Nevertheless, do not be fooled by their complexity as the resulting transaction usually boils down to this:

The bankers/traders bet heavily that an event, which they have statistically, not realistically, calculated (using imperfect and heavily criticized financial models) as highly unlikely to occur. Because the risk of the event occurring and creating a loss is deemed highly unlikely by these “false-experts”, the parties (bankers/traders) to the transaction are required to put up very little money to secure the transaction. However, if the event that the bankers/traders assume will not occur does in fact occur, then the losses from the transaction will dwarf by multiples the amount of money the bankers/traders have and they will go bust. The bankers/traders are fully aware, before entering the transaction, of these potential losses that society will have to cover but ignore them, however, because of their perceived improbability. Because the negative events that cause these transactions to create catastrophic losses are statistically improbable, these transactions can go on for years without any hiccups and will fool the traders/bankers and regulators into believing they are “good trades”. For those years, while the going is good, the bankers/traders will be paid large bonuses for these “good trades” and these charlatans (bankers/traders) will be celebrated and labeled by society as talented or geniuses (bolstered by their Harvard and Wharton MBAs). Then, as it always does in financial markets (see reflexivity*), the improbable event occurs. The transactions suffer catastrophic losses beyond the ability of the bankers/traders to cover and society has to step in and cover the loss or else “the economy will collapse” (sound familiar?). Meanwhile the bankers/traders keep all of their bonus money and homes in Greenwich, Darien, Westport, New Canaan, Scarsdale, etc. (you get the idea – sorry for keeping it short, Westchester ) and defend their actions by stating that “their models predicted that the event was highly unlikely to happen” or “how could we have known that event was going to happen” or even better, “we’re doing God’s work”. Needless to say, it is hypocritical that pro-capitalists (bankers/traders) engage in, defend and lobby for a behavior that causes losses to be socialized and gains privatized and which is certainly not what free market capitalism is about.

*It’s argued that, theoretically, the act of placing a trade in the financial markets will affect the very probabilities you calculated before placing the trade, often in a way unfavorable to the trade you placed.

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 13 years ago

tell us that our investments involve risk

some years later

tell us our investments are gone

step three

profit

[-] 1 points by opensociety4us (914) from Norwalk, CT 13 years ago

nope, profit first (bonuses) before the hidden risks are finally discovered in the form of catastrophic losses that society covers. then blame the markets.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 13 years ago

where did the money go to when the catastrophic losses occurred ?

[-] 1 points by opensociety4us (914) from Norwalk, CT 13 years ago

to the counter-parties of the trade. it's basically insurance underwriting. the financial institutions provide insurance to other parties that a certain rare event will not happen. inevitably it does and the financial institutions have nowhere near enough capital to pay out on the policies they've underwritten. that's where our money (bailout) comes in.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 13 years ago

so the counter parties of the trade got it

who is that?

[-] 1 points by opensociety4us (914) from Norwalk, CT 13 years ago

mostly other financial institutions that are hedging.

[-] 1 points by beyondmoney22 (233) 13 years ago

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[-] 1 points by ProvidenceRhodeIsland (40) 13 years ago

This echos some of George Soros' "Reflexivity Theory".

[-] 1 points by opensociety4us (914) from Norwalk, CT 13 years ago

see Nassim Nicholas Taleb