Forum Post: Homeless man gets 15 years for stealing a $100
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 7, 2011, 8:43 p.m. EST by distortion
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A homeless man gets 15 years for stealing $100, a CEO gets 40 months for stealing 3 billion... explain that one http://a2.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/118/4f315b90a633445d9fa5d23153d18764/l.png that should be a placard
The courts hate small timers. Go big if your going to steal is the obvious message isn't it? The English used to say if your a big enough criminal they make you a noble.
What it comes down to is that--if this is real--the man stealing 3 billion ought to get life. The homeless man shouldn't NEED to steal money. No one should NEED to steal to eat, even if they fucked their own lives up. I'm sure the poor guy wasn't given a good chance in this life to be a success.
C'mon folks, break out of your bubble, only in the US would this man get jail time. In the middle east he would have been executed and the same in China. Actually in China they wouldmhave put the bullet through his head and then charged his family for the cost of it.
First time petty theft in the middle east, off with your right hand. It makes you an outcast and forces you to eat with the hand you wipe with.
We Americans are soooooooo cruel, Go Fuck Yourself, proper fuck too.
Simple, they gave that homeless man a place to live and 3 square meals a day.
Keep it in perspective. Are you mad because he got so many years - or are you mad that the corporate criminal got so little time? Direct your anger appropriately. Roy Brown had a criminal record that went at least as far back as 1988 - not for simple possession either - but for charges that painted a completely different picture than just some poor homeless man. He made life choices - and honestly, the judge did him a favor because he has 3 squares and a cot now. The judge should have put him back out on the street if he really wanted to punish him.
You know, it costs more to keep the man in jail for 15 years than it would to give him a welfare check and food stamps. And hell, you could even give him an apartment for less than the 35 K a year for 15 years it is going to cost us to brutalize him.
Don't give him welfare or foodstamps. This man chose to be on the streets by his past criminal actions. Like I said, the judge should have really punished him and put him back out instead of giving him 15 years of food, shelter, and clothing at the expense of the taxpayers.
No i'm not mad that he got 15 years, well... yes... actually i am, i believe the punishment should fit the crime, should he be punished? yes? but 15 years after he voluntarily turned himself in immediately because he felt bad? and over $100?? But that wasn't the point, only an example, the point is If any average member of society regardless of race was to steal 3 billion and destroy all the lives that went along with it, that's a life sentence, but when a CEO of a big company does, it's 2 years at club med. I know it says 40 months but he'll be out in a 1 or 2 with good behavior and nice big fat fall guy pension waiting for him.
15 years - but I would imagine his criminal history probably had a hand in it... The max punishment for armed robbery (and even though he wasn't really armed, he pretended to be and the teller wouldn't have known the difference so it's considered armed robbery) is 25 years, so the judge was actually lenient if you want to look at it like that.
regardless if his sentence was fair or unjust, his sentence isn't the problem, it's the sentence of the CEO
o man now i get it! Rich man is eating ice-cream man? Like i hope they got some 4 me too man before it melts. I got the munchies and the point now man. If i fall down and rip my bell-bottoms I can have some cauz he found 20 bucks in a parking lot and got some right man? See its easy man how come it so hard to get man?
thank you for your intelligent contribution
Then why make the comparison? Why even bring up the homeless guy's punishment? That's just a red herring to the argument. It's just another example of where and why this movement overall will struggle... There's no clarity in any of it. It's like saying, "It's OK if Obama drops a bomb in Pakistan, Yemen, and Libya because Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan." Make your point and debate your actual point...
How do you not see something wrong with 1 man steals a $100 and gets 15 years and another man steals 3 billion and gets 3 years? You don't see the problem there? i really need to explain to you whats wrong with that picture?
I never said I didn't have a problem with it. What I said was that I'm wondering why you feel the need to mention both when you "claim" to have a problem with the latter - your words, not mine. You fit right into this movement because you can't make and stick to any single point any better than those leading OWS. Best wishes.
I claimed to have a problem with both of those, but you kept drawing your attention to the homeless guy and whether or not his sentence was fair and missing the point, the real question is the CEO and whether his sentence was fair, using that guy as an example what happens when ordinary citizens steal.
If the problem is with the CEO, then the argument against his punishment should stand on its own - without garnering support for the argument by making an apples and oranges comparison to a completely unrelated case (regardless of that man's disposition in the other case). If the problem is with both, then they should be debated separately. I'm not missing the point you are trying to make. I'm trying to help you understand how to make your point. You won't win debates with red herrings thrown in the mix.
Yea, I was in court last year and I saw a man get sentenced to 8 years for stealing a CD player out of Walgreen's. I think Walgreen's should have been grateful that he took that obsolete technology out of the store for them.
My guess is he had priors and/or was on parole/probation.
Yes, you may be correct about that, I really don't know. It still seems harsh unless he had priors for violent crime, in my opinion.
Not homeless anymore, right?
Now he has a room, three square meals and cable TV. He's hit the jackpot.
And free health care.
The homeless guy is no longer homeless or hungry. OWS should be happy.