Forum Post: Help on Essay!!!
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 8, 2011, 9:51 p.m. EST by adoboy93
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Hey everyone, I need some help on a persuasive paper I'm doing for my English class. I writing a paper that SUPPORTS the Occupy Wall Street Movement and basically, I just need a clear/complete list of reasons why the movement started and what the protesters want to happen. Thanks!
Most the comments below have merit (except MisguidedYouth2 and Jay1975, who obviously are missing the point). For an idea as to the genesis of OWS check this link:
http://anarchistnews.org/node/16624
there has been some controversy here about OWS "demands" some want to list "demands"
I want to demand FROM OWS TO OWS
the goals WE will work for
I speak for MYSELF and some OWS -
I DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN! I WILL WORK TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN:
There are a huge number of great, well thought out, COMPLICATED ideas that will require a huge amount of "selling" and explanation" and will garner GREAT OPPOSITION.
We need to be realistic & pick an issue that is simple - that is popular -
that 83% of Americans already agree on -
that 56% of TP already agree on -
that will bring together the people in OWS with the people outside of OWS.
Everybody wins!
Our only goal should be to pass a constitutional amendment to counter Supreme Court decisions Citizens United (2010) & Buckley v. Valeo (1976), that enable unlimited amounts of anonymous money to flood into our political system.
“Corporations and organizations are not a persons & have no personhood rights”
and
“money is not free speech”.
We don’t have to explain or persuade people to accept our position – we have to persuade them to ACT based on their own position. Pursuing this goal will prove to the world that we, at OWS, are a serious realistic Movement, with serious realistic goals. Achieving this goal will make virtually every other goal – jobs, taxes, infrastructure, Medicare – much easier to achieve –
by disarming our greatest enemy – GREED.
THE SUCCESS STORY OF THE AMENDING PROCESS The Prohibition movement started as a disjointed effort by conservative teetotalers who thought the consumption of alcohol was immoral. They ransacked saloons and garnered press coverage here and there for a few years. Then they began to gain support from the liberals because many considered alcohol partially responsible for spousal and child abuse, among other social ills. This odd alliance, after many years of failing to influence change consistently across jurisdictions, decided to concentrate on one issue nationally—a constitutional amendment. They pressured all politicians on every level to sign a pledge to support the amendment. Any who did not, they defeated easily at the ballot box since they controlled a huge number of liberal, and conservative and independent swing votes in every election. By being a single-issue constituency attacking from all sides of the political spectrum, they very quickly amassed enough votes (2/3) to pass the amendment in Congress. And, within just 17 months, they were successful in getting ¾ of the state legislatures to ratify the constitutional amendment into law. (Others were ratified even faster: Eight —took less than a year. The 26th, granting 18-year-olds the right to vote, took just three months and eight days.)
If they could tie the left and right into a success -
WHY CAN'T WE??????????
I feel that we should stay with this simple text to overturn CU:
”corporations are not people” and “money is not free speech”
for four simple reasons and one – not so simple:
1
83% of Americans have already opposed CU in the ABC/Washington post poll and the above
IS THEIR POSITION ALREADY.
2
We don’t have to work to convince people on the validity of our position.
3
Simple is almost always better.
4
This simple Amendment is REQUIRED to overturn CU.
And all other electoral reform can be passed through the normal legislative process.
5
OWS and these pages are chock full of ( mostly ) excellent ideas to improve our country.
All of them have strong advocates – and some have strong opposition.
None of them has been “pre-approved” by 83% of Americans !
Pursuing this goal – without additional specifics is exactly what Americans want.
What do we want? Look at that almost endless list of demands – goals - aims.
Tax the rich. End the Fed. Jobs for all, Medicare for all. So easy to state! Can you imagine how hard it would be to formulate a “sales pitch” for any of these to convince your Republican friends to vote for any of them?
83% of Americans have ALREADY “voted” against CU. And 76% of the Rs did too.
All we have to do ask Americans is to pressure their representatives – by letters - emails – petitions.
Wanna take your family on vacation?
Convince the 7 year old and the 10 year old to go to Mt Rushmore.
Then try to convince them to go to Disneyland.
Prioritizing this goal will introduce us to the world – not as a bunch of hippie radical anarchist socialist commie rabblerousers – but as a responsible, mature movement that is fighting for what America wants.
I feel that using the tactics of the NRA, the AARP an the TP – who all represent a minority – who have successfully used their voting power to achieve their minority goals - plus the Prohibition Amendment tactics – bringing all sides together - is a straight path for us to success that cannot fail to enable us to create and complete one MAJORITY task.
Separation of corporations and state.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
Fascism/corporatism is what we are fighting against. Liberty is what we are fighting for.
I writing a paper? sorry, i just couldn't resist that one : )
ok. now: The reason the movement started can be summed up in one word, ANGER. People are fed up with the bullshit. The reasons are very well laid out in http://thedeclarationofdesperation.wordpress.com/ -------- What the protesters (not just the occupiers but 99% of the angry, pissed off, fed up people) want to see is an end to this bullshit. Here's how it's done: https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/
research K-Street
There are a lot of different reasons why people got involved in the movement and there are a lot of different goals put forth by different subgroups within OWS. I would guess that what most of them have in common is this.
-When the financial crisis hit, large numbers of ordinary Americans wound up out of a job, foreclosed upon, etc.
-At the same time, some of the banks that were most deeply mixed up in the shady derivatives trading that caused the crisis got bailed out by the federal government.
-To add insult to injury, a lot of these same banks turned around and paid their top people (many of whom were involved in this mess) lavish bonuses.
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Separate money from politics.
http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/occupywallstreet.html
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Well, if you really want to understand when and why it started, you need to read the evil in Mien Kampf and the good in Bonhoeffer because at it's heart, this is a struggle of good vs. evil and OWS is far more aligned with evil, the marxists and socialist (I.e. Adolfo Hitler) than the Christian Dietrich Bonhoeffer who died trying to save his nation, it's soul, and an entire population of Jewish descendants.
Fool
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Re-elect Obama...and money in politics or something or other.