Forum Post: HCabret vs. derain......Battle of the PM......

HCabret said 0 minutes ago at Feb. 21, 2013, 7:38 p.m. EST (delete)

Thank you. At least you responded..... ;)

derain said 0 minutes ago at Feb. 21, 2013, 7:38 p.m. EST (delete)

you're an idiot.

HCabret said 1 hour ago at Feb. 21, 2013, 6:20 p.m. EST (delete)

I would rather die, then become a murderer, just to justify mine being here in the first place.

Murder is ALWAYS wrong. No amount of self-defense could ever 'justify' homicide in my opinion.

Killing is ALWAYS wrong, no matter the circumstances.

derain said 2 hours ago at Feb. 21, 2013, 5:11 p.m. EST (delete)

you wouldnt fight for your own life or the lives of your loved ones? if someone is trying to kill you and you kill them instead,..........violence is extremely effective.

HCabret said 8 hours ago at Feb. 21, 2013, 10:49 a.m. EST (delete)

I'd rather be the murdered than the murderer.

Violence is extremely ineffective.

derain said 21 hours ago at Feb. 20, 2013, 10:20 p.m. EST (delete)

yes , it is. or have you forgotten the american war for independence? regarding personal protection, ,.......a home invasion, civil disobedience will get you murdered.

HCabret said 1 day ago at Feb. 19, 2013, 8:41 p.m. EST (delete)

You can fight without violence. Is violence really necesary to fight an unjust government?

derain said 2 days ago at Feb. 19, 2013, 4:34 p.m. EST (delete)

and if you READ what george mason said,...... " to disarm the people is .the best and most effective way to enslave them " you are really stupid.

HCabret said 2 days ago at Feb. 19, 2013, 1:57 p.m. EST (delete)

Evidence that George Mason advocated violence: HE WROTE THE 2nd AMENDMENT!!!!!!

What more is there?

derain said 2 days ago at Feb. 19, 2013, 11:37 a.m. EST (delete)

what information do you have to support your charge that george mason advocated violence?

HCabret said 2 days ago at Feb. 19, 2013, 10:58 a.m. EST (delete)

George Mason was a violence advocate. I don't take much stock in his POV.

derain said 3 days ago at Feb. 18, 2013, 7:38 p.m. EST (delete)

"I ask sir. , what is a militia? It is the whole people. To disarm them is the best and most effective way to enslave the" spoken by george mason ( co-author of the 2nd amendment) during the virginia convention to ratify the constitution, 1788