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Forum Post: Growing support

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 5, 2011, 9:26 p.m. EST by GarnetMoon (424)
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Hope I am not violating the forum's guidelines, but I thought you all should know that finally, Roger Waters has come out with a public statement in support of OWS. If you visit his FB page "The Wall" you can see his video statement.

Now all he has to do is bring the giant pig!

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[-] 0 points by me2 (534) 13 years ago

Finally! I can't take my first shit of the morning till I have gotten my beliefs validated by some celebrity.

[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 13 years ago

You can't be serious.

[-] 0 points by stevemiller (1062) 13 years ago

Corzine/MF Global ripped off customer funds.

Money never moves by itself. Its not a dog, a cat, or a kid that decides to move to some other spot. The FBI is supposed to be investigating the missing money. There might be other people involved beside Jon Corzine, but there is no question that Corzine took the money or directed some other employee to move it without notifying the customer whose funds Corzine took. There is no mystery. The FBI is trying to find a way to protect Corzine from prosecution or he would have had cuffs on days ago the minute they knew funds were missing.

When funds are remove from a commodity account that will cause margin calls. The clearing house will be involved the minute there is a margin call. OWS people need to watch this case and let me show them how OWS will use that to get elected. As a candidate I will be posing questions on the forums, blog, websites, to expose the cover up of Jon Corzine because he's part of the privileged who gets to commit crimes.

[-] 0 points by happybanker (766) 13 years ago

No one wants to hear you. That's why OWS doesn't want you to come and speak. What part of that are you not hearing? Get lost, you clown.

[-] 0 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

The rich and famous do not want to be seen as 'pigs' or go down in history as 'villains'. They want to be seen as 'heros' and go down in history as 'humanitarians'. The market for their product has become global. The fan base has become global. Therefore, the 'humanitarian' effort and 'good will' PR machine has gone global.  These 'humanitarian' efforts and 'good deeds' are not chosen to address the greatest need or injustice. They are chosen almost exclusively to appeal to the largest demographic for their respective commercial products. The largest fan base.  Efficiency or effect is of little or no concern. Its all about PR, marketing, image, and fame.

This is why the rich and famous have all taken up 'philanthropy' or 'good will' around the world. This is why so many have 'schools' or 'foundations' in their name. This is why so many play golf or appear on a TV game show for 'charity'. This is why so many sign motorcycles, other merchandise, or auction off their own 'personal effects' for 'charity'. This is why so many have TV shows with a 'charitable' gimmick. This is why so many arrange photo ops with wounded veterans, firefighters, or sick children. This is why so many have adopted children from around the world (Which they always pay others to care for full time. The hired professionals are sworn by legal contract to confidentiality. Not allowed to discuss or appear in public with the children they care for. Those 'photo' and 'interview' opportunities are reserved exclusively for the rich and famous 'adoptive' parents.). This is why every 'humanitarian' effort and 'good deed' is plastered all over the media worldwide. Its not about 'humanity' or 'good will'. Its all about marketing, image, fame, and PROFIT. This is why we are so often reminded of their respective 'good deeds' or 'humanitarian' efforts shortly before or after the release of their latest commercial product. 

Charitywatch.org and Charitynavigator.org are both non-profit charity watchdogs. Of all the well rated charities (about 1500) only three are closely affiliated with celebrities. Michael J Fox (not the primary donor), Tiger Woods (not the primary donor), and Bill Clinton (not the primary donor). That's three well rated celebrity foundations out of 1500. In general, celebrity foundations run like crap because they blow half the money on private jet rides, five star accommodations, and PR crews.

The fans have been terribly misled. For example:

Virtually every penny 'donated' by Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt to date has come from repeated sales of baby photos. With each sale, the baby money goes to the 'Jolie-Pitt' foundation. A foundation which has never done anything but shelter funds. The 'donation' is immediately publicized worldwide.     

When Jolie or Pitt have a new movie to promote, a portion is then donated from their own 'foundation' to a legitimate charity. This leaves their ignorant fans under the impression that 'another' donation has been made. When in fact, its the same baby money being transferred again and again. Another portion is blown on private jet rides, super-exclusive accommodations, photo ops, and PR crap. This saves Jolie and Pitt millions in travel/stay expenses and their respective studios tens of millions in advertising. It's all very calculated. 

Of course, Jolie and Pitt could simply endorse any of the 1500 most efficient and effective charities. Of course, the baby money would go much further and do far more good if it were donated to such charities to begin with. 

But that would be too boring. 

The 'Make it Right' Foundation took in over $12,000,000 the first year alone. Tens of millions overall. Brad Pitt has never been the primary donor, planner, or designer. He is a figurehead and salesman with a position on the board of advisors. Nothing more. Still, he has been showered with glorious praise by fellow celebrities and media outlets around the world. Again, the fans have been terribly misled. 

In order to move into a 'green' home, the innocent victims of Katrina are required to provide a property deed, meet a number of financial requirements, and pay an average of $75,000 UP FRONT. The difference is offered in cheap loans or on occasion (according to the website) forgiven. To date, only a few dozen former home owners have qualified. 

The 'Make it Right' foundation was never intended to help the lower income residents of New Orleans reclaim anything lost in Katrina. In fact, 'Make it Right' is part of a calculated effort to rebuild the Lower Ninth Ward without them. Part of a calculated effort to raise property values in the area by displacing the poor. They are by design, excluded. Unable to qualify.   Of course, Brad Pitt could have simply endorsed 'Habitat For Humanity'. A well known, proven, and efficient home building operation. Of course, the tens of millions in funding would have gone MUCH further.

But that would be too boring.   Big name celebrities have no desire to make the world a better place. 

Their primary goal is to appear as if they do.

It's a sham. Good will has become big business.

[-] 0 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

Still not convinced? Here is a short list of well known public figures and executives who's respective 'good deeds' and 'humanitarian efforts' were documented and publicized at critical moments in time. Their true colors were eventually shown: Bernie Ebbers (Worldcom fraud). Kenneth Lay and Jeffery Skilling (Enron fraud). Martha Stewart (Insider trading). Bill Gates (Anti-trust). Michael Vicks (Dog fighting). Wesley Snipes (Tax fraud). Mike Tyson (Rape). Lil Kim (Perjury). Chris Langham (Child porn). Jim Baker (Ministry fraud). Michael Richards (Racist). Mel Gibson (Anti-semite). Michael Jackson (Pedophile). Al Capone (Crime boss). So what else do they all have in common besides their incredible greed, over-pay, and rotten moral character? Thats right. A MASSIVE CAMPAIGN OF 'GOOD WILL' 'HUMANITARIAN' PR MARKETING CRAP. Look it up. All of the above took part in 'good will' 'humanitarian' efforts. All were publicized. They also got caught in rotten immoral contradictory behaviour. Most were convicted on felony charges. Mark my words: There will be many more. More true colors will be shown. We are living in the most profound era of greed, fraud, and hypocrisy ever. Its nothing short of an epidemic. Not a single well known living public figure is anywhere near as noble as they are made out to be. Not a single one of them took up 'philanthropy' or 'good will' until AFTER they became well known public figures. Not Oprah, Angelina, Brad, Bono, Bill, Melinda, Richard, Warren, Donald, Michael, or any other well known celebrity or executive. NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Thats right. Before their fame and fortune, there was no time in the service. No time in the Peace Corps. No work at a soup kitchen. No work at a homeless shelter. No work at an animal shelter. No neighborhood clean-up. No anti-war protest. No anti-fur protest. No environmental work. No help-line. No foster parenting. No 'Big brother' or 'Big sister' work. No adoption of children. No sponsorship of children. No fund raising for charity. No scrubbing out of garbage cans at the local church. Before their fame and fortune, there was no philanthropy, charitable contribution, humanitarian effort, or volunteer work on their part. No attempt to make the world a better place. No documentation to prove it. Not even in public record. Why not? BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL TOO BUSY TRYING TO GET RICH AND FAMOUS. If you don't believe it, then pick any well known celebrity or executive and do the research. Find out how they spent their time and money just before they became rich and famous. You will find nothing but business school, business related work, study, investing, career building, beauty pageants, modeling, singing, dancing, auditioning, rehearsal, sports, exhibitionism, materialism, and the same old self-centered CRAP. Not that I have anything against entertainment, sports, education, business, or personal goals in general. I don't. But true heroes and humanitarians are not born from RICHES. They are not born from CELEBRITY STATUS. They are not attention grabbers. They get involved on their own without the slightest regard for fame, fortune, image, credit, or profit. Millions around the world do so at this very moment. Often putting their own modest livelyhoods or lives in jeapordy. Some even die for it. Still, they don't get even a tiny little fraction of the credit and support they truly deserve. Why not? BECAUSE TOO MANY HOLLYWOOD, PRO SPORTS, AND BIG BUSINESS 'HEROES' AND 'HUMANITARIANS' DELIBERATELY GARNER AS MUCH ATTENTION AS POSSIBLE FOR THEMSELVES. THESE PEOPLE ARE FAKE. THEY ARE CALCULATED. THEY ARE GREEDY HYPOCRITE PIGS. THEY DELIBERATELY CONCENTRATE THE WORLD'S WEALTH AND RESOURCES. THEY DELIBERATELY EXPAND THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICH AND POOR. THEY ARE CAUSING THE VERY SAME PROBLEMS THEY PRETEND TO CARE ABOUT. ITS A SHAM. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE HUMANITARIAN.

[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 13 years ago

RW was an anti-nuclear activist as a teenager...among other things.

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

RW?

[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 13 years ago

RW.

[-] 0 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

Who is RW?

[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 13 years ago

Did you not read my post? Your comments are extremely long for someone who is lumping RW with the glitteratti... I don't care for many of them, however there are some that do care. You obviously know nothing about him and what formed his social consciousness.

[-] 0 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

Yes. I did read your post ahead of time. I've been a big fan of Pink Floyd music for years. But for whatever reason, I didn't realize you were referring to him. Anyway, I'm a fan of the music. Not the man.

Tell me: Why would a man with such social consciousness deliberately concentrate $145,000,000 of the world's wealth?

[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 13 years ago

Oh please... Why are you railing on and on? I just wanted people to know that he supports the movement and you have started a volley of rants. RW is a man with a conscience. You obviously don't keep abreast of his activism or don't understand the meaning of his music...

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

No. You don't understand. This relentless concentration of wealth and resources is CAUSING poverty around the world. It's CAUSING conflict. If RW had an ounce of social consciousness, he would stop concentrating and start reversing.

No excuses. It's gone too far already. Would you like some statistics? Perhaps you can run them by RW.

[-] 0 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

As I suspected. RW has a strong commercial tie with NY. A significant commercial event was recently held there. His new tour kicks off next spring. I did some checking and found that RW tickets are being sold already at a premium. Evidently, RW has something in common with Wall Street executives.

$145,000,000 just isn't good enough.

ROGER WATERS WANTS TO GET AS RICH AS POSSIBLE.

Must be that social consciousness.