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Forum Post: Good jobs! How do we get them back.? Who is standing in the way.?

Posted 10 years ago on May 20, 2014, 2:51 p.m. EST by 99nproud (2697)
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http://interoccupy.net/blog/help-wanted/

Build on any momentum!! All these new jobs are coming back partly because of Occupies focus on the 99%

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-returning-jobs-20140513-story.html#page=1

http://www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1386&doc_id=273081&dfpPParams=ind_182,aid_273081&dfpLayout=blog

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304587704577333482423070376

http://www.jsonline.com/business/wisconsin-manufacturers-see-value-in-returning-work-to-us-b99238723z1-254065201.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/us-manufacturing-will-keep-coming-back-government-willing-national-association-manufacturers-1557861

Jobs moved to China (& other offshore countries) by greedy corps?

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/why-u-s-going-after-chinese-hackers-jobs-n109081

Fight over here, over there! Everywhere. Not just America

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/u-k-manufacturing-confidence-brings-jobs-back-home-cWRnaGrHQyGP4Taydf~kow.html

There are years of hard work ahead to achieve lasting change. And we must all these jobs must be to be higher wage jobs.

Who supports good jobs? Brining back, creating, mainting. Who?

California Legislature.

http://www.calchamber.com/Headlines/Pages/05122014-New-Law-Supports-Job-Creation-in-Californias-Space-Industry.aspx

American people!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/161438/americans-widely-back-government-job-creation-proposals.aspx

Infrastructure jobs?

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/06/24/2200961/americans-jobs-infrastructure/

http://americanmanufacturing.org/content/how-infrastructure-investments-support-us-economy-employment-productivity-and-growth

Govt jobs! (Restore & EXPAND all levels of govt employment)

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/labor/report/2011/09/08/10257/government-spending-can-create-jobs-and-it-has/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/08/26/most-government-jobs-are-local-and-so-are-the-cuts/

Red states suffer most! Why?

http://www.thenation.com/article/167050/states-went-red-2010-massive-public-sector-job-losses-came-next

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/jobs/posts/2012/08/03-jobs-greenstone-looney

So much work ahead

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[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

there should not be a need to compete for jobs

jobs are necessary to move food and house and clothes us

jobs should not become a meaning for out lives

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

How to create good paying manufacturing jobs?

http://www.caeconomy.org/reporting/entry/wanted-skilled-workers-for-californias-manufacturing-comeback

Is that useful?

Peace

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Agreed.

Shorter work weeks, higher pay, better conditions!!

Solidarity

[-] 2 points by nakedsex (94) 10 years ago

I've thought a lot about shorter work weeks. I lived at a yoga community for some time and we did 20 hours. It was perfect. You never got sick of the work, it was always fun, and you still had enough free time to do things with your life.

Also creating jobs just for the sake of creating jobs seems like a strange idea, almost like polluting society with overcomplication. It made sense that cutting work hours would also have the effect of creating more jobs.

More jobs, more fun, less stress, and more time to explore your personal life? I still think it's an amazing idea. But I keep coming back to the thought that most people will take advantage of the extra time and get other jobs just to make more money.

The whole thing might just ebb into what we already have, people trying to make as much money as possible and that setting the standard for everything else.

[-] 3 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Sign the Petition or start one in your state

http://nysaflcio.org/buyamerican/

thx

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

t people will take advantage of the extra time and get other jobs just to make more money.

for rent and debt

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Best case is a combination of many models that all provide living wages w/cola, good benefits and safe conditions.

I agree "creating jobs just for the sake of creating jobs" is a strange idea. I'm against it.

Did you see that strange idea on this thread?

on topic:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/170720/americans-say-big-business-helps-overseas-less-home.aspx?ref=image

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/europe-is-doing-better-at-creating-jobs-than-the-usa-cm357546

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/the-avenue/posts/2014/05/16-infrastructure-jobs-tour-kane-puentes

The following article shows the anti worker/people, pro corp policies that have hurt millions of decent hard working families just when the world economy was crashed by corp oligarchs.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/03/27/452745/republican-states-cut-most-public-sector-jobs-in-2011/

Let's start by hiring all those people back, right???

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

direct public healthcare would make insurance agents redundant

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Those private insurance agents will have to work w/ public health providers or other private insurance jobs, or other healthcare jobs, or retire.

http://www.bizjournals.com/albuquerque/news/2014/05/15/health-care-jobs-up-big-census-bureau-says.html

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[-] 2 points by wickerman (62) 10 years ago

We have been here before, and we passed new laws and reforms and got through it. We can do it again, but we have to be united in our efforts. http://www.fairfightfilm.org/crf/TRTrustBustingProduction.pdf

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Nice history lesson, btw. Where from? Didn't see attribution.

[-] 1 points by wickerman (62) 10 years ago

I didn't realize that it was just the document. The site is http://www.fairfightfilm.org/index.html

I haven't seen the film, but have done some reading on the site. The document above is from their supplemental materials section.

I believe that the site is sponsored by the CRF http://crf-usa.org/

[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

From your website

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfRdG5eSnBI

Create Jobs! Break up the banks & the big media corps.!!

http://ourfuture.org/20101008/Want_To_Create_Jobs_Break_Up_The_Banks

[-] 0 points by wickerman (62) 10 years ago

OK, I watched the film, and can't say that I found anything wrong with it. So I assume that you agree with me. For the record, it wasn't that I couldn't find the film, it was that I work two jobs trying to make ends meet and hadn't had the time to watch. We are in a truly dangerous situation here, the big corps have found ways around most of the anti-trust laws. That does happen, and just means that we need to revisit good laws from time to time to see how they are working, and tweak them when needed.

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

No need to explain, just thought I would post it.

I support renewed glass steagal & other assorted strong regulation.

Break up the banks!

[-] 1 points by wickerman (62) 10 years ago

The banks and any other so called to big to fail company. How about import tariffs? And why are people down voting your comments?

[-] 3 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Tariffs & taxes should absolutely be used to benefit the 99%. Without creating a trade war, and being careful to maintain global trade.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-05-22/sugar-and-steel-strain-u-dot-s-dot-mexico-ties-as-kerry-concludes-visit

current events!

[-] -1 points by wickerman (62) 10 years ago

A look at US history shows a roller-coaster of up and down tariffs, with economic boom and bust riding along. High tariffs domestic businesses boom employment goes up and everyone benefits, low tariffs only the rich benefit.

[-] 3 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

History sucks, but most educational.

Do we like DeBlasios ideas on jobs?

http://observer.com/2014/05/de-blasio-rolls-out-jobs-task-force/

[-] 0 points by wickerman (62) 10 years ago

It seems like a start, but without production we cannot sustain our economy. From the list of people he has on his committee it seems he is more interested in financial sector jobs than in manufacturing.

[-] 3 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Financial jobs? In NYC? Go figure. I've seen stats showing he is doing a lot for tech jobs.

That might be good.

[-] 0 points by wickerman (62) 10 years ago

True, I could only go by who was on the committee, with the guy from J P Morgan on there you have to wonder.

[-] 3 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Living wage jobs!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/05/23/public-sector-job-cuts-ontario-hudak-graph_n_5359737.html

This is why recessions deepen, and recoveries stagnate.

[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Correct this empl inequity and we will go far in addressing chronic destructive unemployment.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/22/black-grads-doubleunemployment.html

Agreed?

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

perhaps it struck a nerve

i'd abolish the whole investment strategy system

glass steal seems like playing along

[-] 0 points by wickerman (62) 10 years ago

You ever heard of raw materials economics? Under the theory that we current operate investment, and thus interest are thought to be the driving force of the economy. But how can wealth be created out of nothing? If I loan someone money, and am paid back with interest, that money didn't grow, I just got my money back as well as some of his. Our current economic model does not create wealth, it moves wealth and consolidates it in the hands of a few. According to the raw materials economic model new wealth enters the economy as raw materials (chiefly farm products), and the processing of those products drives the economy. It was a concept that has been used at various times in US history through the efforts of The Raw Materials Economics Counsel.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

manipulation of raw material is an important role

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

fuck you are your money scemes

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

stop driving cars

localize business with resident

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Sounds like a plan.

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[-] 3 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

That is certainly one of the reasons I've been fighting for change.

Good luck.

Don't know if this is still working but maybe it could help.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/occupy-protesters-launched-website-help-134738706.html

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[-] 3 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

I like all my various tax credits thank you very much.

Credits for all

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/04/us-swiss-pay-idUSBRE9930O620131004

This way some don't HAVE to work.

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[-] 0 points by 99nproud (2697) 10 years ago

Identify these anti public jobs pols and send them home!

http://rabble.ca/columnists/2014/05/tim-hudaks-bizarre-plan-to-create-jobs-cutting-public-services

"We need pols/gov that works for working families not corporationa"

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