Forum Post: Get A Job, You Ingrates
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 15, 2011, 9:26 p.m. EST by ItsOnlyMe
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Here you are, living in the greatest country ever & you spend your time on a bogus "protest".
Go to work, like the REAL 99% do or would like to do. You're not helping.
You're just getting in people's way and tying up the police's time.
sorry but when over 50000 people gather in times square, you have to question the bogusness of the protest, most people have better things to do... if we're really lazy ingrates, we'd just stay at home watch tv and scratch our crotches
Apparently you don't have anything better to do or you'd be doing it. Pass the weed and keep partying.
Winter's coming; you'll be home watching TV soon enough.
i hate weed. there are better ways to treat insomnia.
Don' t be so sure. BTW whats your location, I'll come do a job on your face.
So, you're out of ideas and want to beat people who don't agree with you into submission? You'll excuse us if we proceed to ignore everything you say after this. And I assume you've actually been to a protest and talked to the people there before coming to your conclusions? Or did you just sit at home and believe everything the nice people on T.V. tell you to believe?
When corporations can't give unlimited money to politicians in exchange for sweetheart deals, then we will start approaching a "TrueDemocracy".
Wow, you seem really bright. Got your GED yet?
I sir, am far more educated than you think. I have also put my life on the line for my country. There are only 5,000 people in my town.Where do you live. You're brave, you won't even give a fake location. Why don't you go find some porn to download, maybe someone who looks like your ex-wife.
My idea of a party involves heat and working toilets. When you're willing to sacrifice your comfort for what you believe in, come back and preach to us.
Stand by, sacrifice will not be needed just skill and timing.
I have a job. I'm just not arrogantly complacent enough to think that my ability to keep it means there isn't a large problem in this country that makes it unduly difficult for others to work -- or that such problems won't eventually affect me.
"that my ability to keep it" can, in many peoples cases, be replaced with "because I was fortunate enough to keep it"
Same here
Unfortunately, you are wrong. The multinational corporations have outsourced and off shored so many jobs to China and and other Third World countries where people are willing to work in sweat shops. Our manufacturing sector has been devastated. Hiring in this country is a joke. There are thousands of college kids that cannot find work. They are defaulting on there college loans at a higher rate than the foreclosure crisis. People are hurting and tired of the systemic banking and political corruption in this country. The Republican Congress did not pass the jobs bill this week because it would have given Obama "a win". Meanwhile,people are suffering. I have some news for you, this movement is not going to stop. You cannot tell people to shut up and move along...too many are Fed up!
@itsOnlyMe - You sound like Archie Bunker but not in a humorous way.
Yea it's scarey to think that people like ItsOnlyMe are out there spouting off. Everyone should be upset with politicians, Wall St., and the Corporate media for spreading the lies and conducting the coverups that make the corruption possible. However, people like ItsOnlyMe aren't upset at all there too busy starring into the TV sucking on that big gulp, waxing elegant phrases like "uh yep that's right George, duh yep that's right" . He's a 1%er who should be on our side but if we can't get him the message delivered in HiDef, entertaining sound bits, we don't stand a chance. Then when the couch potato does make his way to the computer he calls us lazy.
So did Jesus!!
Great post and very true. Get a life you so called 99% loafers
So far as your comment to go to work like the real 99%. It really exemplifies the fact that your head is up your ass! Real unemployment is at almost 20% combined with 0% job growth I would suggest your just a stupid prick ! When we hang the guilty parties I hope your one of them!
The greatest country ever? Did you know our unjustified sanction on Iraq before we declared war on them contributed to 500,000 children dyeing. Now after the war the amo we used has depleted uranium in it and now they are having unprecedented occurrances of radiation poisoning still to this day from it. We also support and are complicit in the deaths and genocide that is going in Palestine. We are one of the most Waring nations in the history of the world. Our politicians have sold out the people to big business and the corrupt central banks. We have more people going hungry than China does today. Not a greater percentage but more people in cold hard numbers. I am an ex marine and I volunteered to serve the country when I was 17 years old. To be honest if I knew then what I know now I would have never risked my life for such a biased corrupt country!
I am a small business owner. I have a job. I create jobs. I am the 99%. I am planning to take my children to see how democracy works in this country. I am willing to take a day out of my life to support this movement. I would be creating more jobs right now if the banks in this country were not looking out for only their own bottom lines, which would be fine if they were not taking help from the government in addition to helping write the laws that benefit themselves. NO ONE came to my business and offered to help me when we were struggling. NO ONE gave me any money when it was needed to save jobs. I DID NOT take a large salary and bonus and then lay off a huge portion of my company but many of the largest corporations in this country have done just that. That is worth giving up a day of my life. I work. I protest. And it will help.
Time to reconnect with reality...
What does getting a job have to do with anything? If I get ANOTHER job, is that going to stop corporate CEO's from carelessly spending government funds? Will any of these CEO's actually get charged with their CRIMES, or just be able to pay off the system to keep themselves from being imprisoned so they can continue their corruption. Or if you look and a much bigger picture, will me getting another job some how miraculously bring back natural resources that are obviously on decline, building tension threw out the world?
What causes people to think yelling "get a job" will change anything? To me, these people just seem painfully oblivious to the world they live in.
Fine, buy me the ticket to china, india or mexico, cause that's where all the jobs have been sent, or better yet, you go to china or india or mexico and I'll take the job you leave behind
What makes you think you're in the 'greatest country ever'???? Have actually travelled overseas ever? You're in the world's greatest consumer society, that's for sure. Don't get me wrong, i love America and the American people are wonderful, but that doesn't mean everything is perfect, far from it, and there's some people putting their necks on the line to fight for things to be better, you should be ashamed of yourself, seriously, you're blind.
What you call bogus I call an exercise in democracy.
I see it as a refreshing exercise of first amendment rights.
Americans have been asleep at the wheel for too long.
It's sad that people have to be unemployed or lose their home's before they get involved but hey politics is generally reactionary anyway.
Here something for you to think about, Capitalist whore!!
Woodstock! A bunch of drugged out, dirty, drunk, free 'loving' party hippies concentrated in a small town in upper New York, changed America.
Vietnam protests! Ended the failed Vietnam war, changed politics, and changed America.
Martin Luther King! A bunch of people peacefully marched, protested and went against the racist establishment, changed America.
What you have to ask yourself is,,,,, what do you think the Occupy Movement will do to America, and the world, now that it's global???
go be a socialst elswhere you stupid shit. capitalism is what we built this country off of, and the reason we face problems like this today is because stupid democrat shits like you added socialism to a system that was purely capitalistic. get the fuk out you fucking kike.
Capitalism is dead!! It is NOT accepted by the majority of people and when the corrupt system explodes in your face you will know people like me were right all along.
The next system that will take over will be a type of socialism. LOL
why do you assume that EVERYBODY need to "go to work" believe it of not there are plenty of people involved that are working..
1) I have a full-time job, thank you. I also hold a MA degree from an ivy league school, but I do indeed appreciate your concern. 2) No one requested the presence of the police; they chose to join us. 3) If you are so busy with living in the greatest country ever, being the "REAL 99%" and your job, why are you on the OWS forum on a Saturday night? 4) I love my OWS brothers and sisters for "getting in the way" to take back what is rightfully ours (yours too). 5) At Times Square tonight, I graciously stepped out of the way of anyone who said "excuse me".
I have a master's degree, had a 3.85gpa in my master's program, and just got a job after a year of trying - part time, no benefits, didn't even require a college degree. My job is deliberately split between two people so that my employer does not have to pay any benefits whatsoever. My husband works 40-50 hours a week, but I cannot get health care through his job because it would increase the cost by $450 a month. So I have no health care - just hope I don't get sick. Oh, and he's also underpaid too, because he's in a working class field where unions have been completely destroyed.
The OP here doesn't understand - yes, the people in the street are probably mostly young. But there are MILLIONS of us out here who would be right there with them if we actually were financially able to take a day off of work. If anything, this is a WORKER'S movement!
Protests WORK because many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:
http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures
Join
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/
because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org to support a Presidential Candidate -- such as any given political opportunist you'd like to draft -- in support of the above bank-focused platform.
Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Congress replacing the "old" Congress according to your current Occupation & Generation, called a Focused Direct Democracy.
Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet; it's the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under, in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing & Group Investment Power, that's important. In this, sequence is key.
Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.
The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.
Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupation & Generation.
So please JOIN the 2nd link so we can make our support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.
If only it was that easy....five years, 250 applications sent out for jobs that I am qualified for and nothing...
If only it was that easy....five years, 250 applications sent out for jobs that I am qualified for and nothing...
agreed
It honestly saddens me that some people refuse to consider others but instead opt to criticize them. Many protestors do have jobs and decided to protest locally for one afternoon. These same protestors are concerned for the people without jobs, the people in danger of losing their jobs, and the nation's future. As a college student, I've been doing all I can to attend job fairs far and wide since July to prepare for when I graduate in December. I have an internship and I'm applying to graduate school. I'm afraid that education is not enough anymore. Please, peel your eyes off of your big-screen, HD television and realize that we cannot go on as a united nation if the country continues down this path.
Damn...you still havent stop breathing?Do us good people a favor.......hold your nose and glue your lips together! THANKS...YOU ARE A GREAT AMERICAN.
The CEOs want the following process to be implemented (for higher ROI): the CEO - Monkey. Jobs must be outsources. The people who help outsource - jobs must be gone. Knowledge transfer completed and monkey to be trained. To work and live off the bananas. The rest (who disagree to understand what is democracy) - can stay and work for bananas as well.
DEAR INDIVIDUAL READING THIS, What must we as people do to fight this grave injustice inflicted upon us, by the ones who lust for power? How can we end the reign of the wicked and immoral and mete JUSTICE upon the oppressors as we have suffered from their hands-their blood stained hands... An idea of REVOLUTION-no, the act of revolution enacted by the proletarians! Must we as individuals ,as is always done, remain pawns to these people, these monoliths that we alone as individuals cannot surmounted...I surmise that we are not ignorant to the woes inflicted upon us by their enormities? We must UNIFY! Unity will be the way in which we assert ourselves!...While I realize all are not are not without income or funds and many cannot unify with this growing movement do to reasons of possible opposition and they being the people I'm question who we oppose (Wall Street), and many have responsibility they must tend to that take precedence. We must rise and vanquish this behemothto restore the equilibrium, for when disturbed it causes much chaos and strife in the hearts of man( man being neutral to represent all genders) in his mind and when mans mind and soul are in chaos as many are they rise to vanquish the pestiferous wealthy. However we should not just target these individuals, each of us individually must confront the corruption in our hearts, how can we judge the corrupt and deem them so when we cannot be amenable for ourselves we will surely be deemed hypocrites as we will be.....I am not meaning to say that this protest is in any way unjust, for far too long have we suffered, I mean that we are expected to expiate our sins -assume our parts in the problems we face and how we may have caused it. Yes, the Bankers on Wall Street are corrupt in ways we don't have evidence of without an investigation. But as we suffer soshall they, for we will make it so. But what of our government I say, my fellow citizens do not neglect to Confront the complicit in this affair for the roots of corruption are deeply seated, we have silent enemies amongst us-be warned that although succession in our goals will happen we may face a greater threat to our rights granted unto us from birth be prudent and circumspect. Another issue I wish to address is the idea of mans continual corruption as all things will be permeated with this darkness Inside our hearts.......when a system is created it always deviates from the righteous path, for nations we have learnt of in our education are littered with tales of nations that became corrupt and faded Into the ruin of collapse, we know that a society without corruption is utterly inconceivable, impossible in ways each and everyone of us know...for as long as men exist so shall our inner evil....but I digress from my original Intent of this passage and I ask forgiveness as we must forgive all in all eventual....the rising potentiality of this movement is quite an astonishment, I thought we were not capable of such things and thus I admit I had less faith in my fellow man. I see that we have all come to the realization of the need to bring the greedy to justice, although the reasons for your protesting may be unique to you, you share many goal, I had prognostications, inklings seems more appropriate of a term, that one day man would wake to realize the greater truth outside of his/her reality, and break the cycles of obsession with superficial base needs and trite motives, a dull and predictable lot we were but we've surpassed that I hope....for if not we will founder and fall Into the patterns we had grown so accustomed to, living such prosaic pedestrian lives stultified by the elite and of our own ignorance we always have the means to educate ourselves in this age, we have no limits to what we may learn based on our status in society, the powerful can no longer succeed in keeping us stupefied we have freewill to reason and learn and form our own ideas, ideas that would otherwise have died by the hands of the bigots! Our endeavours shall be crowned with fruition of our goals for our will allows it, we have broken free from the will of the oppressors.... part...now it is your turn...as Desmond Tutu stated "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor." YOURS TRULY- Aaron Thomas Bridge
I worked 60 hours last week what does that have to do with anything? If I wanted to be as rude and narrow minded as you I could retort by saying" get an education you ignoramus." but instead I think I'll take the higher ground and suggest you understand what OWS is about. Commenting on things you don't understand could make you look stupid and we wouldn't want that.
Speaking of getting an education, at least I understand how to use a comma, Mr. High Ground. Were you asleep in English class?
Meanwhile, you're protesting against something YOU don't understand. Maybe all the "evil" rich should just divide up their money with you know-it-alls.
Wow, an English teacher, and an economics professor. Grab your big gulp and get back in front of the TV moron.
What happened to taking the "higher ground"?
BTW, if you understood economics one iota, you wouldn't be wasting your time with all the unwashed "occupying" places.
I never said I was going to take the high ground, as a matter of fact I tried to get on your level rather quickly. I immediately stooped to name calling by calling you a moron and suggested you Grab your big gulp and get back in front of the TV. By the way, I did think it was funny the way you implied that you know something about economics. So let me make sure I have all of this, you are an authority on how peoples time would be best spent, economics, and commas. Did I miss anything?
The trolls aren't even trying any more!
The jobs have all gone to China or other slave wage nations because of the GREED of corporate America. It's time to fight for the middle class and the American Way.
Take the Poll you some guy i want to take this poll https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&pli=1&formkey=dFlNNHJTRlZwMWs5ZjlhTWN0NlZReHc6MQ
Eat shit and die! Your a coward and a waste of semen.. Your parents should be arrested for birthing you!
be thankful 50% of the world lives on $2 a day or less. People in Africa are starving. In some countries like England they spend tax payer money on a King and Queen that did nothing to earn their title. Mexicans die trying to cross our border just to work hard and make less than 90% of the Americans. People have family members dying of cancer, and you consider taking money from the rich instead of being thankful for how good the US really is.
If the stratification of the economic classes continue the middle class will all but dissappear and shrink the size of our overall economy drastically. This movement should be called the robin hood movement take from the rich give to the poor. It is not about attacking the wealthier or creating instability; it is creating stability and promoting wealth for the masses. It is better to have a slightly smaller piece of big pie than a large piece of a smaller pie; especially for the wealthy. (obviously pie is a metaphor for the economy)
Why comment an offensive and il formed statement if your just going to delete it when I prove you wrong? Learn from your mistakes, don't ignore them.
I do have a job, a small business. I also have 3 children who are going to suffer while people like have tunnel vision. I marched in Austin today with my son. What are you doing to get our governments attention? Voting for the crooks that are robbing us blind? Think about it. Do you have the facts? Do you know how much money has been extracted from our country (by private entities & our fearless leaders) since 2008? Over triple of our entire debt incurred since the forming of our nation. Did you even know they are loaned at 0% interest and have not been paid back. Did you know our mainstream media is told what to report? Do you have a clue? I would love to give you more information. I'm here to unite us as a nation not pick fights. Just because you don't understand what's going on doesn't mean it's stupid....
I have a job a I disagree with you wholeheartedly. If you have not noticed yet we are being joined with many countries for around the world it fight for equality. I am sorry we are getting in your way.
We understand why you are frighted. Change is unnerving. This must be very difficult for you. You and the others who are posting negative comments on this forum are feeling threatened and uncertain. We understand. These are anxious times.Try to consider this from the perspective of those on "the other side."
Keep in mind that there is no "other side": there is one country, under God.
A large sector of the population has been purposely kept unemployed for at least the last 60 years. This has the effect of emotionally keeping people in check for fear of going hungry or homeless. More importantly, it establishes a low wage rate. If you will not preform labor for minimum wage, the next million persons standing behind you will. This is a precise mathematical formula and has been implemented by the government as yet a further method of establishing and maintaining the economic stability of the upper class while deflating the value of labor by those who actually work for a living.
This is one of the best posts I've seen. You are so right. When I took labor economics at a fine University (many years ago) we were taught that 5% unemployment was the norm. I thought to myself, gee, that's weird, and here you are summing it all up. I finally understand. Good job.
Thanks for the reply. I am no economist, actually an Artist, inventor, writer etc. However, as I cast my eyes about the political landscape I see a good deal of transparent maneuvering in the financial sector in collusion with political entities. I am just as surprised that so few have put this together in the past. This of course is just the tip of the iceberg considering all the protectionist practices which have been built into the economic/banking system.
It's funny. I was just having a discussion with a couple of people about forming a sort of think-tank for OWS. And, I was saying how I think we are all equal, formally educated or not, economists or not. Keep it open. I think this process is very organic and I am learning so much from all the different points of view. Everyone has something to say. Let me know if you have any other pearls of wisdom.
Amen brother
If the stratification of the economic classes continue the middle class will all but dissappear and shrink the size of our overall economy drastically. This movement should be called the robin hood movement take from the rich give to the poor. It is not about attacking the wealthier or creating instability; it is creating stability and promoting wealth for the masses. It is better to have a slightly smaller piece of big pie than a large piece of a smaller pie; especially for the wealthy. (obviously pie is a metaphor for the economy)
Many of the "middle class" got there from borrowing. At least it looked like they were there. This is simply a reset. The "rich" get there by being smart, using their talents, and taking the business risks that you will never take.
Funny there was recently a documentary about one of the rich who got his start by stealing...so is that the type of business risk you are speaking about?
So if we find one crook we should label them all? This is an excellent example of how mentally bankrupt the OWS group really is.
I was merely asking a valid question, if you believed that this is the type of business risk you are referring to. Nice point judging many by a few words from one.
Many of the rich got there by being greedy, manipulative, sneaky, slimey predators....not all but many. You would be one of them.
Dont blame others for your poor career choices. We all get out of life what we put into it.
Sorry...you would be wrong..again. I am a medical professional, quite successful. You Sir, are a pompous as_.
If you really were successful you would know how good you have it and wouldn't be ready to support those who think success is a right. Nice try though.
Hurry back to the teller's window. People are waiting to withdraw their money and close their accounts. Nice try.
No the rich get there by exploiting, backstabbing and lying. The middle class get there by being creative and intelligent. true wealth cannot be achieve in one generation, if you believe otherwise you are a fool; and if you consider yourself rich you are wrong. I live next to a guy who owns gold mines in Africa and Alaska, he is rich and he inherited the things that put him there. People like him, however much of a nice guy he is, are out for themselves and no one else. We are simply picking up on that style of thinking.
I like your caveat - "Go to work, like the real 99% do or "WOULD LIKE TO DO." What do you mean? Are there not enough jobs? Is there 9.1% unemployment. Hmm.
You can thank Obama for that.
Obama had nothing to do with the Unemployment rate being 9.1%. Jobs were being shed at the rate of 400,000 per month when he took office. The recession had nothing to do with Obama. If anything he kept us out of the Great Depression II. You can spin it any way you want to.
I do have a job. I work 40 hrs a week as a meat cutter. I am tired of seeing my wages stay the same as the cost of living sky rockets.
get a better job or start your own meat cutting company. And when you start that co. go to a bank for financing.
it is tough for you, but you cant just blame someone, that wont help, maybe you can take like 1 or 2 online classes a semester and eventually work toward a degree to help you
tell that to 50000 protestors, good luck with that one. All that is easier said than done
Sadly education no longer guarantees a living wage or any job at all. That's part of the problem.
if you just have a four year degree in anything you can teach english in a place like Korea or India
What would happen if every college educated person left the country to go teach English elsewhere in the world? Soon there wouldn't be enough jobs there either.
On a more personal note, most of us have family in the United States we'd rather not or can't leave.
Then your wages were overpriced in the past. Supply and demand at its best.
Or, inversely, perhaps the cost of living is overpriced? Simply because we make more than 50% of the world doesn't mean that the ratios are quite as steep as might be expected. the 99% are NOT impoverished, but in perhaps in a few years without some sort of change, who knows? Do you fault a generation for PROACTIVELY dealing with a situation rather than waiting for it to hit them?
Again, supply and demand. Costs only go to an equilibrium price that balances demand. Others with high demand jobs are earning wages that are keeping up. Stop blaming others for your poor career choices. It's a recession, of course it will be tough for many but they will learn and remember like the Great Depression survivors did.
Learn and remember by living in poverty and violently rioting simply for food to eat while the EMPIRE STATE BUILDING was created, costing enormous sums of money? Oh, I should hope it doesn't come to that. If a generations dreams that it might save itself from a handful of pain, I say let that dream carry it to new and brilliant places.
It's fine to dream but don't expect that you can riot your way to a successful life. Work, save, and sacrifice. Get rid of the iPhone you can't afford and stop thinking that anyone else owes you anything.
wink No one owes me a damn thing.
Me either. Congrats on being someone who gets it.
What evil shit do you do for a living?
Reply to idiots on the internet.
Afraid to admit what you do? You are probably an unprincipled parasite. However you "earn" your money I bet it's complete bullshit that contributes nothing to society.
If you had a brain, you would not contradict yourself...since you point out that this is such a great country...did you forget that freedom of speech and the right to assemble is legal? You sound like a hater!
Im sorry, i would get a job but: A) i dont speak Chinese B) i cant afford a plane ticket to China C) you are still a bad troll.
You forgot to add that you don't have a decent education that is competitive in the global market.
My education is fine.
Keep pretending while the successful 90.9% of us have jobs because we do have.
I would be in the top 10% myself, if it wasnt for the bankers. The bankers ARE the problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1vpEcebYBg
PS. Wheres my bailout?
I'm in the financial industry and I used to manage a bank. We never made a loan to someone who didn't come asking for it first. Live within your means and stop borrowing from others to fund a lifestyle that you can't afford.
"You don't get it. People wanted to borrow money so we loaned it to them." - You dont get it. Your job is not to loan money to every body that walks in your bank and we both know that never happens though you act like it does. Stop acting like you are innocent.
You are in the business of making sound financial decisions. And assessing risk. You made BAD financial decisions out of greed or stupidity. You took unnecessary high risk. The taxpayers bailed the banks out. You still got your bonuses and your check and everyone else got screwed. You should be in jail wearing a mop wig and begging Bubba not again.
I on the other hand was paid by general contractors who were paid by banks. We were paid to build a house. We built a house.
I did not prey on my customers. I told them how much it was going to cost up front. If there was additional work, i signed a contract for the work before the work was performed or i didnt do the work. If i ran over budget, i ate it.
You preyed on your customers. You used predatory lending and shady business tactics to make money. You made high risk business deals that were probably going to default at one point.
You belong in prison.
I can tell that you are mad that your shoddy carpentry business went under because your work was lousy and carpenters are a dime a dozen. The so called bank bailout was forced on the banks and most have paid every dime back.
"If it weren't for housing bubble being created"- Sure i would of. I was running a 5 man crew for 8 months out of the year and a 3 man crew for the other 4 months before the housing problem came up.
The problem the bubble cause was the contractors i subbed from were getting such high demand that in order for me to keep my no bid privilege i had to get work done faster. So i had to hire more guys. And there was all kinds of construction companies that sprung up. Anyone that could read a tape was starting their own company.
So the result of your greed flooded my fairly steady job with demands and wannabe carpenter companies. Then when demand dried up i had 5 times as many companies to compete with as i did before the bubble.
Had the bubble not of happened i would of worked my company steadily up and been able to pretty much retire by the age of 45 or 50 since i dont need all those pricey toys to make me happy.
But you had to go and ** up the working man's living with your greed so you could afford ridiculously priced cars and houses didnt you?
You don't get it. People wanted to borrow money so we loaned it to them. That's what we are in business to do. People took that money and wanted homes. You built them for them. That's what you are in business to do. We both profitted from it. Why are the banks any more to blame than you are? Were you greedy when you built the homes for people that they couldn't afford? Did you tell them no? Neither did the banks. We all benefitted and no it's time for us all to pay.
I love it when someone makes an assumption out of ignorance.
I am 33. House is owned with no lien holders. Truck is owned with no lien holders. All my tools are owned and were bought with cash.
You see the problem is bankers( see my link above). They are terrible at their job. It might be because of incompetence or greed but its probably a mixture of both. These are people who are suppose to be well educated in making financial decisions. But they seem to of made a lot of poor financial decisions.
One of a banker's jobs, since they do not seem to know this, is risk assessment. You see they are suppose to be professionals in determining what people can and cannot afford. So one of two things either happened here, and we know how this went down already, and i am going to guess it was a combination of the two.
First the bankers pushed loans through on people that really had no business getting these loans. They gave people loans that the people really could not afford. These people probably already have to high of debt to income ratio.
The second is loans with shady terms. These are loans that start out looking great until you get a few years into it and then all the sudden all kinds of little fine print starts beating you over the head. Since bankers are dishonest by nature, they dont bother pointing out the "fine print" or explaining what it means. They take advantage of a persons "financial ignorance". Which makes them predatory bankers. These loans almost always end up costing the homeowner way more per payment a few years down the road than they did in the beginning. Thus a house they could afford just fine till now suddenly becomes unaffordable.
The bankers then started to get greedy doing this more and more. Until they were putting people in houses that were way out of that person's price range. This greed backfired on them and ultimately caused the bubble collapse.
This is where i come in because i use to build these houses. I have since Clinton was president. I knew in 05' that the housing industry was going to collapse. People that made less money than me( $50k-$75 k a year) were building houses that cost $250k or better. I couldnt keep up building. We had a 10 man company and i couldnt find enough guys that could competently swing a hammer to build fast enough.
I knew it was going to come to an end though. And it did. Suddenly people stopped building. Everyone ran out of credit. It was taking months to sell spec houses compared to a few weeks. I jumped into the remodel market. And so did everyone else. Many folded quickly. They too lived on credit and ran their company on credit. They had to sell almost everything just to pay their bills.
I lived in my non spectacular house and i paid it off during this time. By late 2008 i was bidding against 10-15 people for a job when i use to get no bid contracts to build houses from other contractors. Now a days i work for less than $100 a day maybe a few days a month. Mostly for poor people. Sometimes i get paid in lunch and gas money just to get out of the house.
The bankers caused the problem. The bankers cause a lot of problems. They finance every war/scheme/ and project on both sides.
So i would like to take this time to thank you very much for ruining everyone elses life because you were greedy.
Amazing how someone blames someone for helping them. If it weren't for housing bubble being created, you wouldn't have all that work that you benefitted from. Are you to blame for building those houses for those people that they couldn't afford?
I'll buy you a ticket to China if you swear to stay there.
Why would i want to do that?I like standing on your bridge, troll.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Amazing how people who disagree with you are "trolls"
I never said I disagree nor agree with you. You are stirring the pot without adding anything to conversation, and putting words in my mouth. You even said get to work like the real 99% do OR WOULD LIKE TO DO. Many seem to be upset because they were promised the world but handed a bag of shit while our leaders verbally masturbate without accomplishing things that would actually help our nation as whole.
You say they're not helping but neither are you with comments such as these.
So yeah, you're a troll.
Seems to me this thread was created to insult, not to exchange ideas. So yes "Obvious troll is obvious". Move along people nothing to see here.
Redundant much?
Troll much without adding to the context? And you call me redundant...
Time to get money out of politics on both sides of the aisle and fix our corrupt and bought out trade, tax and banking system.
http://www.getmoneyout.com/
http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/08/09/dylan-ratigan-mad-as-hell-his-epic-network-moment/
http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/08/03/job-wanted-jobs-ending-rigged-trade/
http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/08/04/jobs-wanted-ending-rigged-tax-code-jobs/
http://www.dylanratigan.com/2011/08/05/jobs-wanted-ending-rigged-banking-jobs/
Idiot, read a history book. If it wasn't for people like OWS you would be working 16 hours a day 7 days a week like Americans did 120 years ago. You need to thank these people for fighting your battles. George Carlin said it best: http://youtu.be/acLW1vFO-2Q
Or if the rich are not rich and nobody earns over 1mm, who can you tax? Even if you took all the wealth in the USA $50T, that's $163k/person
Rant on Liann; maybe eventually you'll make some sense.
And you are a pawn of all who are evil in this world.
Yadda, yadda. You could be doing some good, but you're wasting your time on a bogus protest. Maybe you expect people to just HAND you everything.
I am doing some good. I am fighting for the people who don't have a voice. I like how your name is ItOnlyMe because it definitely reflects your attitude toward the human race. You don't really care about others except yourself. Must be awful.
You're a regular Mother Teresa. You're arm tired from patting yourself on the back yet?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
What's wrong, cat got your tongue?
http://occupywallst.org/forum/remember-why-were-here/
die troll
How clever. You must be in Mensa.
The pot calling the kettle black...
What?? Protesting while collecting unemployment isn't a job?
Plus, tying up police time increases their overtime. Those NYPD on the verge of retiring within the next 3 years should thank me as they are going to make a killing on their pension!