Forum Post: George Soros & Other Fleabags Starting to Fall?
Posted 12 years ago on Feb. 2, 2012, 11:23 p.m. EST by Thrive
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It is rumored that George Soros has compounded Swedish and Danish foreign currency derivatives for the purpose of attacking the Russian stock market.
The use of these cross-collaterlized compounded derivatives using the Luxembourg banks, violates the terms of the Basil II European Union banking agreement.
http://www.newskosmos.com/details.aspx?id=422685
“Note: Soros use of these cross-collateralized compounded derivatives utilizing Luxembourg banks violates the terms of the Basil II European Union banking agreement.
Item: Both the IMF (International Monetary Fund) and European INTERPOL are preparing a “Red Notice” against not only Soros but Bush-Clinton Crime Family Syndicate financial stooge Marc Rich and his Swiss-based Richfield Commodities Brokerage firm.
Putin has also recently confronted Federal Reserve Chairman Bernard Bernanke and told him that the Russian Federation will no longer tolerate the use of individuals like George Soros and Marc Rich in massive foreign currency derivative fraud that is destabilizing the world economy. In other words, folks, there will be NO backdoor QE3 using derivatives tied to George Soros and Marc Rich.
P.S. We can also divulge that the government of Greece has joined John Hancock insurance company in a class action lawsuit against the criminal U.S. banking giants Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan.
The class action lawsuit accuses both Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan of fraudulent sales practices in the marketing of bogus mortgage-backed securities from the year 2003 to 2007.
Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan sold these bogus financial instruments to the government of Greece while at the same time they were actually shorting these financial instruments in offshore hedge funds on the Isle of Man and the Cayman Islands.
P.P.S. At this hour the government of Greece is ready to leave the European Union and try to save their nation similar to that which took place in Iceland.”
πηγή: NewsKosmos.Com/olympia.gr
uh oh,... someone's listening to Faux News again...... Hey any progress on the Obama birth mystery?
More Rush Limbaugh dittoheads spouting lies and inanities about Soros' fictitious connection to OWS.
Here's a goodie you don'k know -
conspiracies somtimes are staring right at you
Soros named our organization after his father
Oliver
Wendel
Soros
LOL !!!
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Didn't realize that since I'm not a dittohead. But damn, I must be right if that's what Rush says!!!!!
Since you're spreading the false rumors that he started, you are indeed an dittohead. You clearly have no problem spreading lies, as he does.
The only question is, why would you do that? What do you have to gain by posting shit about OWS on the OWS support site? What's in it for you?
Why? I've done my own research that links Soros to OWS. I spread this because I think the folks camping out and challenging the cops to get violent are no different than Lenin's (and Mao's) useful idiots.
I care about this country and OWS could be a good thing, but the Canadian anarchists (funded by Soros) have a far different agenda.
Read this about Soros' funding. It is a myth, promulgated by Rush Limbaugh, after being falsely reported by Reuters and going viral (apparently Reuters either had an agenda or didn't fact-check):
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/13/on-george-soros-occupy-wall-street-and-reuters/
google Soros,ows...you found one article to support your OPINION and posted it here.
Do you REALLY believe ows started as a spontaneous congregation of people in Zucotti back in Sept? Come on. Even a useful idiot can do the research to see that it was the brain child of Adbusters. Now, that you accept that Adbusters threw the idea out on a lark, dig deeper,.
Kalle-Lasn, he is the DEAR-LEADER #1
Quit Using the name adbuster's this is just OWS disinformation. Here are the fact's.
1.) Everything is in the name of Kalle-Lasn, he is the DEAR-LEADER #1
2.) Kalle-Lasn also owns CANVAS, and that organization is funded by Soros. CANVAS also used the same 'PROTEST TECHNIQUES" used here in Syria, and ever other two-bit 'arab spring' engineered by the CIA.
Adbusters.com is just one of many companys that Kalle-Lasn owns, so yes he is a 1%-er and this is why OWS-Consensus doesn't allow us to name 1%-er's because by definition, it would have to include "Dear Leader".
Adbusters.com has NOTHING to do with OWS, Kalle-Lasn has been very careful to have a legal wall between his political hobby's and his businesses.
Lastly, the reason this is all done in Vancouver Canada, is that it is illegal for the CIA to operate this type of campaigns on USA soil, but it is legal to have a contractor do so abroad.
I've seen several of your posts. Thank you for this info!
The one article traces the money precisely, something you did not do. It is not the number of articles that is important, it is the accuracy of the information. If 50% of the country's newspapers cite 0.05% of the scientists who are climate change deniers as the ones being truthful, does that mean the science is 50% correct? No. Either one side is or the other.
You also have a very incomplete understanding of the beginnings of OWS, and you also don't realize that the beginnings are not necessarily the present. Everybody knows about Adbusters initial idea and support. That has nothing to do with Soros. A clearinghouse foundation that independently distributes small amounts of money to dozens upon dozens of organizations does not constitute anything close to direct involvement, or even less, management. Soros' involvement in OWS is a fiction.
As to the beginnings of OWS, and how it attained its current structure, here's another article, form a decidedly non-left publication:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/david-graeber-the-antileader-of-occupy-wall-street-10262011.html
You don't have to be a pure Rush listener, to be a dittohead these days.
there must be a thousand of them on AM radio, plus of course...................FLAKESnews, flakes.
They are all mindless dittoheads.
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Even if true, it sounds like business as usual.
It's what capitalists do.
Do I need to post the activities of that guy that's backing Gingrich?
So make up your mind, do you hate runaway capitalism, or not?
Soros has been linked to the Clintons in the past, isn't it interesting that Soros chose Obama over Hillary Clinton and used all of his leverage to game the system to give Obama a scant, yet questionable democratic nomination victory in 2008.
Like I said, business as usual.
That's capitalism.
You can name drop all you want, but I want it ALL to stop.
I particularly like Soros, ... have you bothered to read his books? I have pity for him and respect him, I think him & kalle lasn have much in common from the backgrounds and they both hate totalitarian governments,
But that said while Soros will fund virtually anybody because he can,... I think Kalle-Lasn is more interested in selling protest models and software and the BOT's to run your 'virtual protest', ... I think the model has been proven successful to the village-idiots running DHS/TSA, ... I'm sure they have bought licenses to this software because anything that can create FUD is in their interest. ( FUD - Fear, uncertainty, and doubt )
Soros should have been fine with either Hillary Clinton OR Barack Obama, it was not necessary to be the decider so early on, no?
And for that reason, I don't trust him. After the decimation of home foreclosures during Obama's first three years, I wish Soros a prompt departure from this planet.
That may be, but you obviously answered his sirens call to occupy.
And I've noticed the intrinsic narcissism in parts of the occupy movement. Student loans petitions get 100,000 signatures, people fighting unfair foreclosures get 500 hits.
I'm not fooled. The movement is 8 parts narcissism, 2 parts altruism, but that's better than most other options out there.
Please let's debate this if you wish, I'm an expert on these issues.
Obama didn't have a fucking thing to do with Real Estate implosion, its happened everywhere from Hong-Kong, to Japan, to Ireland, ... to the USA, you name it the whole world from 1998-2007 played russian-roulette with their homes, the bubble burst in 2007, and no matter who was president nobody in the world could have fixed the implosion, and its still going down.
Study the last depression, real-estate collapsed 90% in 1933, some 4 years after the stock-market crash, ... and stayed down until post wwii, ... then and now it will be the same.
The only thing Obama could of should have done, was send some bankers to prison, but as we known Dimon & Corzine just robbed $3billion a few weeks ago and are walking, by the way Corzine & Dimon financed Obama's campaign.
But fucking HRC she's even deeper, Rubin was dining with HRC when they de-regulated the banking in the first place, all that shit was done under CLinton.
If you want blame for the USA economy go after Rubin and Team Clinton from 1992, but honestly its all irrelevant, cut the USA blew its was on the Vietnam War and never did recover, its a failed state and today its terminal.
You have to go back to the actual democratic nomination contest, when Obama professed to having a plan for home foreclosures. Hillary Clinton actually had a plan, Obama just said he did.
Obama should actually be impeached for luring homeowners into a taxpayer sponsored program that over a million homeowners could only access by defaulting on their home mortgage payments first.
Obama has a habit of trotting out a new program with a lot of hullaboo, then a year later trotting out a new and allegedly improved version of the same program.
All Obama had to do was initiate an across the board 4% interest rate to EVERYBODY with a mortgage. Then offer a 3.5% rate for those who needed to save even more money and were willing to go through the hassle of all the paperwork shenanigans.
These shenanigans have happened under Obama's watch. And Obama's top people have been AGAINST mortgage mods. Obama's latest scam to is to EXONERATE the banks FIRST, and then conduct an investigation against the banks.
What is so sad, is the republicans are even worse.
Which brings us back to Hillary Clinton.
What is so ironic is that the 90's were the best economic times for the U.S. for the past I don't know how long. Bill Clinton made a point from his very first annual federal budget until his last, to always lower the yearly deficit.
Bill Clinton is the only president to achieve this budget reduction feat in the past 80 YEARS. Bill Clinton is also the only president to leave office more popular than when he entered.
Hillary Clinton would have done a better job than Bill Clinton.
Read these THREE home foreclosure nightmare stories, they ALL happened under Barack Obama's watch.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/foreclosure-crisis-twisted-world-mortgage-lender-error_n_1236634.html?page=1
one party, the KLEPTOCRAT party.
Please like I said, I'm a expert on this subject,
Sure there are a zillion 'plans', but this shit don't mean shit, this week Obama announced he has a 'plan', but NOTHING can fix Humpty-Dumpty when he fall's off a wall ( Imploding real-estate bubble )
The Real Estate market was a bubble, they did the same thing in the 1920's, that the did 1998-2007, and like I said above this shit happened all over the world, the real-estate ain't coming back in Ireland, and it ain't coming back anywhere was a bubble the USA is NOT special,
The KLEPTOCRAT's that run the world did this shit everywhere, the USA is just a third-world-prison colony with Nukes.
Study 1933 in the US Depression, then as now real-estate was down 90%, nothing can bring that back, when you have that kind of deflation, a large majority of people walk away from their house-payments for the simple reason that they can rent for less else-where, nothing can stop this process about time.
Obama just yesterday announced a plan, that folks that have never been late could refinance at a lower principal, but so fucking what, by definition most people hurting have been late, ... so all these type of plan's are BULLSHIT, but folks like you like to point out "He has a plan", the plan can't fix the problem, cuz it will take 10+ years, only time can fix the problem of real estate de-valuation.
Lastly, the SAME people running the money today were running the government under BUSH nothing has changed, if OBAMA were for change he would have replaced TEAM-BUSH at Federal-Reserve or US Treasury, he did NOT.
Because OBAMA is owned by the same people who owned CLINTON, and the same people who own BUSH, ...
There is only one party, the KLEPTOCRAT party.
The problem was created by everyone in the world, and everyone profited from 1998-2007, but yes WALL-STREET and the BANKS orchestrated the Housing-Bubble worldwide? Some say to destroy the world economy and put the world on a world wide currency controlled by the USA, ... but IMHO what happened is the same that happened 1929-1942, ... just plain old fashion greed virtually destroyed the USA, and only WWII got people back to work.
I think Obama has acted criminally in this regard. I've said that Hillary Clinton would have done much much more to protect the 99%.
You're just a hater, it's easier that way, for you.
Hillary Clinton was thrown off the bus because she was going to make a difference.
Hillary was thrown off the bus, because America cannot tolerate dynasty's,
Roosevelt, ... Roosevelt .... forever
Bush, Bush, Bush ... forever
Clinton, CLinton, ... forever
This is NOT a monarchy, there will be NO family perpetually running america, that is why HRC was thrown off the bus.
This makes no sense simply because Bill Clinton is the ONLY PRESIDENT in the past 80 years to leave office with a higher popularity rating than when he entered office.
To compare Bush's to the Clinton's is ridiculous in my opinion because one family seemed to want war as often as possible, and the other (The Clintons), seemed to focus on good ideas from both sides of the political spectrum.
You are talking some bullshit line you've been coached to say as far as I can tell.
A dynasty is a dynasty.
HRC's favorite historic figure was Eleanor Roosevelt, HRC wanted her daughter to be president, tossing HRC off the bus completely destroyed HRC's dreams of making the Clinton's a monarchy in the USA into perpetuity.
Putin has a +90% popularity and Obama has 16% popularity, if popularity was important? Then why are republicans so mute?
It's always fun to watch how liars and fools pick stat's like Popularity to prove their drivel.
Clinton hit bottom so low when he was president for finger-banging little girls that by the time he exited he could only have gone up, its called rebound.
[ Correction, finger banging wasn't his preferred fantasy, he liked to put cigars up the Vagina's of young women. ]
Speaking of Dynasties. Soro's dads made millions upon millions of dollars during and after World War II selling the homes and the stuff in the homes of Jews who had been sent to concentration camps never to return.
Soro's money is ALL BLOOD MONEY, and if you are so sure that dynasties should not rule, that should include Soros and his ill gotten past.
I love this shit, .. you know ON has got to be an ASSHOLE of Orwellian-OWS Order #1, ... fact is Soro's spent his child-hood in a concentration camp. Learn your facts shit-head.
Here, asshole, right from a sixty minutes TRANSCRIPT.
http://message.snopes.com/showpost.php?s=0271d53520f8ee892848afb1f0da31af&p=939217&postcount=4
Bill Clinton's popularity when he came into office HAS NOTHING TO DO with what happened in your perverted mindgutter, Clinton came in popular, and left more popular, the only president in the past 80 years to actually leave office more popular than when they arrived.
YOU ARE A HATER.
I hate to admit it but I wanted HRC less than Obama, I was one of those who thought we couldn't have bush-bush, clinton-clinton, ... bush-bush forever...
We had to break the link and keep HRC out, besides she's butt face ugly,...
But I too voted for OREO-OBAMA for no other reason that the other guy was a bigger asshole than the OREO, but the HRC my gawd ...
SO I completely support Soro's in throwing his weight behind Obama.
That said of course OREO didn't accomplish shit, would of could of HRC done better? I doubt it, look at what she's doing she's a fucking war-monger for Israel.
Depending on when you made up your mind, Hillary Clinton evolved as the campaign progressed, Obama just repeated the same speech every day, only changing the number of days to the next primary.
Hillary Clinton talked with the real main street, and listened. You should also consider being bothered by all the ways that Obama gamed the presidential election system, including
Fraudulent tallies in the caucus contests, manipulation of the three of the biggest states in the country by stopping Florida and Michigan's votes from counting for moving up their date, while Illinois moved up it's primary date from the end of March to the beginning of February, and those votes counted, debit card fraud.
And assuming you are male, why aren't women upset with the some of the crap you said about Hillary Clinton, instead, women just went along and voted for Obama,
Somewhat pathetic in this day and age.
And, after all of that, the actual total popular vote in the 2008 democratic race (with Michigan and Florida not counting), was still a tie.
She's still HRC, and she's still a nasty manipulative woman, and she's a lawyer to boot like her husband, ... you can just look at her and see how condescending she is, ...
But like I said, it was a dynasty thing, ... I simply think we can't have clinton-clinton, or bush-bush forever, ... just like last time we had Roosevelt forever and had to change the law to change the terms, first TDR, then FDR, blue-blood rich familys from the 1800's then and now never let go of power, so its could that the 'dracula stake' was driven into HRC's political ambition.
Lastly, I don't give a rats ass if they're homo, black, a woman, or have six legs, all I care about is what they do, and if you bothered to have followed Clinton's career, you would know that the Rockefeller family gave him the governor of Arkansas, and paid for his Rhodes scholarship and ran his whole life, ... groomed just like the OREO-OBAMA, but OREO was a new face, ... and he proved like HRC that he's just a whore to wall-street. HRC got rich on trading while hubby governor ( her law firm ), and they got richer ever since from wall-street.
Typical male bias showing. She's nasty, she's manipulative, bla bla bla. The real answer is Hillary Clinton was going to focus on saving middle america even if it cost wall street, that's why Soros went for Obama.
Typical political correct bullshit but none intellectual.
Soro's is one smart mother fucker. But honestly to sum up the situation Soro's hates what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, and he knows that HRC doesn't give a fuck about people, only about power and money.
Rather than bashing Soros why not read his latest book, .... its a great read.
"The crash of 2008" - soros
Learn some truth, and quit talking shit
Suggesting that HRC could have saved the world, or that Obama could have saved the world, ...
Jeebus fucking xmas I remember when HRC was president and her bitch poodle was running this country, and I didn't see her saving shit, except money in her bank account, today the clinton's are a million times richer than they were in the 1990's.
A lot of people did well in the 90's. It did not carryover into the new decade because of the wars. The wars were not Clinton's doing.
You're just a hater.
You are a BOT, anytime you see these general non-context reply's you know its coming from a very poorly designed OWS BOT. It's sad that adbusters.com, is using this to make their 'brand' name recognition, yet everything about their technology sucks dick.
When I see some context in these 'canned' reply's I just might be impressed, but so far I only have pity on the OWS TEAM.
Fuck you. You've made 32 posts, I've made 715, get a clue you dipshit.
Thrassy, you probably can make a post every 2 hours by law, and you have been doing so since birth of OWS, ...
Let's see your other avatars have this logic...
Zendog - I'm real cuz I have a website,
dufus - I'm real human cuz I have youtube
occupynews - now we have a BOT who claims to be human because he can post drivel every 2 hours 24 hours a day
All the above proves that a rock can be made to appear human.
Actually, dumbass, I don't usually respond for as long as a day or two. You have yet to say one intelligent thing to any of my responses. congrats.
Your name, owsleader 2038, talk about delusions of grander.
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It is such a shame that the Father of OWS (Soros) will get away scot free. But, that's how the 1% live. I still haven't figured out his end game tho.
Nutter.
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C'mon Thrassy. You were pointing out the Soros/Tides/Adbusters connection months ago!
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Maybe not, maybe I just followed the money based on Adbusters on my own. My apologies!
And yes I know Soros denied giving money to Adbusters. But the way I see it, his donations to Tides that were to specific projects was just a mixing of the money pot. It rang hollow.
Born in Estonia in 1942, Kalle Lasn spent his early childhood years in a German refugee camp and then relocated with his family to Australia. From 1965-70 Lasn lived in Japan, where he founded a market research company and worked in the advertising industry. In 1970 he moved to Vancouver and spent the next two decades producing documentaries for PBS and Canada’s National Film Board.
In 1990 Lasn lent his support to an environmentalist group that was engaged in an anti-timber-industry campaign. When the CBC and other television stations refused to sell advertising airtime to that organization, Lasn and his allies started Adbusters magazine. (In this publication, Lasn would offer an open forum to all manner of radicals such as Marxists Michael Hardt and Antonio Negri, anarchist David Graeber, and post-anarchist Saul Newman.) Soon after launching the periodical, Lasn and wilderness cinematographer Bill Schmalz co-founded the Adbusters Media Foundation (AMF).
Denouncing American consumerism as an “ecologically unsustainable” and “psychologically corrosive” phenomenon, Lasn derides “the dog-eat-dog world of capitalism” as “a destructive system” that has caused “a terrible degradation of our mental environment.” In his 2000 book Culture Jam: How to Reverse America's Suicidal Consumer Binge—and Why We Must, Lasn wrote: “The aggregate level of American life fulfillment peaked in 1957, and with a couple of brief exceptions, it’s been downhill from there.” According to Lasn, “at least 75 percent” of the U.S. population is “caught in a consumer trance,” having been “brainwashed” into “believ[ing] in the American Dream.”
The dangers of consumerism, says Lasn, have profound "environmental, psychological, and political consequences" not only domestically, but internationally. Asserting that "every single purchase that you make has some kind of an impact on the planet," he complains that "we, the rich 1 billion on the planet, are now consuming 86 percent of all the goods in the global marketplace, leaving a lousy 14 percent for the rest of the 5 billion people on the planet." The worldwide resentment that is allegedly bred by this "overconsumption in the rich countries," Lasn concludes, "is one of the root causes of terrorism."
Lasn and AMF strive to combat consumerism through such initiatives as “Buy Nothing Day” and the “simplicity movement,” which encourage people who have been “stung by consumer culture” to drop their obsession with money and material possessions.
Warning that anthropogenic “climate change” poses a worldwide ecological threat, Lasn says that "overconsumption is in some sense the mother of all our environmental problems." Specifically, he derides the automobile—because of its greenhouse-gas emissions—as “arguably the most destructive product we humans have ever produced.” To counteract the environmental damage allegedly caused by such emissions, Lasn recommends “not just a carbon tax, but a global across-the-board pricing system” in which cars would cost “around $100,000” apiece, and “a tankful of gas, $250.” Moreover, Lasn calls for the imposition of a 1 percent “Robin Hood Tax” (i.e., taking from the “rich” and giving to the “poor”) on most goods and services worldwide, with the aim of using its generated revenues to fund social-welfare programs.
Lasn refers to advertising professionals, whom he holds in contempt because of their commitment to perpetuating consumerism, as “the cool-makers and the cool-breakers” who “more than any other profession ... have the power to change the world.” He hopes to promote “a mental/environmental movement that will wipe the advertising industry out as we know it.”
In 2004 Lasn wrote a controversial Adbusters article entitled “Why Won’t Anyone Say They Are Jewish?”—criticizing America's most influential neoconservatives and noting, derisively, that “half of them are Jewish.” This would not be the only occasion when Lasn singled out Jews for critcism. In a June 2009 article/photo montage critiquing Israel's embargo of the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, for instance, Lasn's Adbusters magazine likened Gaza to the Warsaw ghetto of the WWII era—suggesting that contemporary Jews' treatment of the Palestinians resembled the manner in which the Nazis had treated Jews under Hitler. And in September 2011, Lasn praised Palestinian leadership—which had given no indication that it would abandon its longstanding quest to destroy Israel—for “moving beyond the Israel- and U.S.-dominated peace process” and “asking the United Nations to formally recognize Palestine as an independent, sovereign state within its 1967 borders.”
Describing himself as someone who has “been a student of revolution all my life,” Lasn says that in the summer of 2011 he and his fellow Adbusters staffers—especially senior editor Micah White—were "inspired" by the popular revolution that had recently occurred in Tunisia, part of the so-called "Arab Spring." Moreover, they “thought that America,” whose economy was in crisis, “was [also] ripe for this type of [mass] rage.” According to Lasn, Americans' anger stemmed chiefly from Wall Street financial speculators' violation of the “sense of fairness Americans have always believed in.”
Lasn was also confident that young Americans' “despondency” over such concerns as “climate change,” “corruption in Washington,” and the “decline” of their country, greatly increased the likelihood that the U.S. might experience “a Tahrir moment” of sorts. (The reference was to Cairo's Tahrir Square, a focal point of the 2011 Egyptian Revolution, which was part of the Arab Spring.) Emboldened further by “that sort of anarchy cred” which the civil disobedience/“hacktivism” group Anonymous had been demonstrating in recent times, Lasn and his Adbusters associates held brainstorming sessions on how they themselves might effect “some kind of a soft regime change” to diminish the political influence of “finances,” “lobbyists,” and “corporations.”
In an effort to “catalyze” a protest movement against those forces, Lasn on June 9, 2011 registered the domain name “OccupyWallStreet.org” and thus gave birth to the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement, which he hoped would help “pull the current monster down”—i.e., the two-headed serpent of capitalism and consumerism.
On July 13, 2011, Lasn and Adbusters posted an “Occupy Wall Street” call-to-action recruiting “redeemers, rebels and radicals” to join a mass protest movement “against the greatest corrupter of our democracy: Wall Street, the financial Gomorrah of America.”
According to Lasn and Adbusters, “Tahrir succeeded in large part because the people of Egypt made a straightforward ultimatum—that Mubarak must go—over and over again until they won.” Following that model, Adbusters instructed its recruits to likewise “incessantly repeat one simple demand in a plurality of voices.” But that demand, explained an Adbusters communique to “radicals and utopian dreamers,” would have to be carefully worded so as to conceal its deeper motives:
To guard against this possibility, Lasn knew that his organization would need to articulate “a deceptively simple Trojan Horse demand” that was “so specific and doable” that it would be “impossible for President Obama to ignore.” Soon thereafter, under the slogan “Democracy Not Corporatocracy,” Adbusters demanded that Obama “ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington.”
Lasn's “Trojan Horse” tactic adheres faithfully to the methods of the famed community organizer Saul Alinsky, whose preferred brand of revolution was a slow, patient process of incremental, rather than sudden, transformation. As author Stanley Kurtz explains, Alinsky “was smart enough to avoid Marxist language in public.... Instead of calling for the overthrow of the bourgeoisie, [he] and his followers talk about 'confronting power.' Instead of advocating socialist revolution, they demand 'radical social change.' Instead of demanding attacks on capitalists, they go after 'targets' or 'enemies.'”
While Lasn concedes that every popular movement faces the “danger” that its idealistic leaders may eventually “turn into monsters,” he nonetheless said in 2011: “it’s very important for us to win, and [to] worry about how badly we behave later—right now we need to pull the current monster down.”
I read a good bit of this last year. All I can say is Lasn grossly underestimated the American people.
Will also say his timing was impeccable since all these liberals are bemoaning the OBAMA DECEPTION. Historically, the people react badly when their raised hopes are dashed so thoroughly.
PT Barnum,and WC Fields long ago mathematically proved that the US public can be conned and fooled ad-infintim, there is NO limit to the stupidity of the US citizenry, this is an established law and fact.
Kall-Lasn's entire theory of crowd manipulation theory's ( CANVAS, Inc aka CIA ) is completely based on Goebbels propaganda theory, that if you repeat and meaningless message it becomes to have meaning, ... such as "We are the 99%", ... utterly bullshit and meaningless, or "Leaderless Organization", .. total fucking bullshit, yet its establishments for the nit-wits here "Goebbels" was Hitler's information officer, ...
Soros NEVER gave money to adbusters, he gave money to CANVAS, which is also owned by KALLE-LASN the guy that owns this website and all of OWS.
So its correct that soro's didn't give money to adbusters.com, cuz that's Kalle-Lasn's private company.
Now CANVAS this software here and everything has been used at all the CIA 'arab-spring' event's this year all supported by Soro's with Kalle-Lasn running the software.
It's always been my conviction that Thrassy is on contract with CANVAS that's how he can be on this site 24 hours a day and trying to manage content, also Thrassy and the admin here are the same person.
Woa! That's a bit deeper than I can take in, but I must admit I have puzzled over Thrassy;s true agenda. Hell, I thought you were he for a while.
The Tides Center does fund Adbusters and Soros does fund it.
My biggest concern with this movement is it's helping our growing police state along. Terrorism, war on drugs and now this nonsense. Glad I'm old and have no kids. This is NOT my parents' country, or even the country of my youth.
The OWS has two purposes.
1.) To empower SEIU, the public prison unions. 2.) To re-elect Obama 2012, to make sure the prison unions are NOT defunded.
Thus there is an enormous conflict in interest. The essential viewpoint here is that OWS like all Kalle-Lasn made for business protests are products that are created and sold. Kalle-Lasn created protests all over the world and sold them to the highest bidder.
In the case of the OWS-NYC protest biz it was sold to SEIU last november 2011, and co-opted by Obama 2012.
It could have just as well be sold to anyone, this is the age of made for believe worlds all to be sold to the highest bidder. This is why OWS has been kept so general and non-specific so the product could be bought from anyone. There is no double that kalle-lasn has made a small fortune on selling protest models and software to the world's dictatorships.
You didn't address my point that Soros funds Tides. SEIU is nothing but an Obama machine.
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Conspiracy. period. Like you