Forum Post: Fear Us!
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 9, 2011, 8:24 p.m. EST by jerseybob
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Politicians needs to fear us (...the American voting public) more than they fear each other, their chosen party, and most importantly big corporations and special interests.
This movement should be about mobilizing support around a set of simple ideals and then holding our elected officials accountable for addressing them with the threat of not re-electing them if they fail to deliver. Obama shouldn't get another 4 years because he has failed us...the 33 senators (democrats and republicans) up for re-election should not be re-elected...and all congressmen should not be re-elected.
It will take a few election cycles for them to get the message, but we can't keep rewarding them with long-term jobs while so many of the people in this country are struggling. And they're all guilty...I voted for Obama, but will not vote for him again...I don't care who the alternative is...Debbie Stabenow? not get my vote in '12. John Dingell? I will vote for his republican challenger even though I will probably not like everything he has to say. Why? Because the guy has served 29th term!!! I'm willing to give a new president, senator, and congressman a chance regardless of their ideology. And if stuff is still f'd up in 2014 I'll vote for another congressman and another Senator (Calr Levin up in '14). And if stuff is still f'd up in 2016 I'll vote for another congressman and another president.
We're all kidding ourselves if we think it's going to change...they take our votes for granted based on geography and demographics.
As far as ideals go...we need to lower unemployment, stop spending more than we take in (...just please walk away from Iraq and Afghanistan), get rid of personal and corporate tax loopholes and credits (child tax credit? if you can't afford to raise kids then don't have them)...every dollar I earn should be taxed the same, whether it's my 1st one or my billionth one...whether I earned it making $7/hr at McDonalds or as dividends from my investment portfolio. That last part is an important part...nobody has a legitimate bitch if everyone is being taxed the same for every dollar they earn, regardless of how they earned it.
We need to create a level playing field and remove the class warfare arguments if we're going to move forward...rich people have a gripe when they see folks less fortunate than them paying a smaller percent in taxes, sometimes no tax...and less fortunate folks have a gripe when they see rich folks take advantage of loopholes and favorable tax rates on investments.
And the only way this all gets fixed is if our elected officials FEAR US!
There should be no income tax; only a consumer tax.
I disagree with that...that's a philosophy that seems highly beneficial to rich folks because they would be allowed to accumulate wealth without taxation.
Wealthy people spend lots of money.
Not as a percentage of their overall wealth they don't. That type of tax program would provide a bigger tax break to wealthy folks than capital gains tax.
Politicians won't fear you unless you're successful at getting out the vote.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/vote-or-else-this-will-all-be-a-pointless-exercise/
Understood, but this is effectively a protest vote. I think it's much harder to rally folks to gfo out and vote for the same old candidates that have done nothing to fix the problems than rally folks to go out and vote for the guy/gal they probably wouldn't normally vote for. I live in a highly democratic-leaning district (> 75%), so if it voted republican next cycle it would send a message...and to be honest, my congressman is a good guy, but I'm not his priority...his party and the special interests he relies on are priority 1a and 1b...I'm a distant 2nd or 3rd...and as long as I keep voting for him that won't change.