Forum Post: Enough Talk-----Heres The Action We Need
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 5, 2011, 10:15 p.m. EST by sean007e
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A MANAFESTO FROM A 99er By Sean Monaghan
First- We must repeal the $50,000 tax break that helps American companies’ ship jobs overseas.
Second- We must repeal the Bank Moderation Act of 2000.
This is the law that allowed the federally insured banks to become investment banks and start using the stock market as a casino. This a prime cause of the financial crisis and the reason that we are having so much trouble getting out of this economic hole. And since the banks can make money playing the market, using their insured deposits as leverage, they have no reason to make money the old fashion way by lending it to us.
Third- Make the estate tax real and at a 60% level of all wealth over 25 million. This will include trust funds and have them be part of the estate. Also make it illegal to try to get around this law. We don’t need the rich buying our congress and if you can’t get by without working on your cut of 25 million you should not have more money. We will call this the Paris Hilton tax.
Fourth- Get rid of special tax rates on capital gains and investments. We are told these are necessary because of the “risk” involved, but a search of information shows not one death from “investing” but thousands every year from people working. Also no deductions for any income over 1 million. If you try to hide income the penalty is to be 1) the hidden income 2) the tax owed on the income and 3) all penalties.
Fifth- Freddie and Fanny are broke and bankrupt. End the fiction that they are not and make them a government agency again, the “investors” lose but that’s the way capitalism goes. The “new” agency will do the same thing but will be run by accountants using actuary tables not people trying to make money at all costs.
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I suggest you read the 99% Declaration https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/ and The Declaration of Desperation http://thedeclarationofdesperation.wordpress.com/ It will show the process you have to employ to get anything done. BTW it's man i festo
Have you brought any of these ideas up with the current Congressional Members on the Committees in Washington that oversee, write legislation on finance issues?
Look, we know the government is not going to implement all the reforms necessary, but they must be asked. Right now they have the power, if they refuse to use it to do anything, that is one thing. To not even ask, is another.
We must educate and ask for reforms. Many of them want to do something, but nobody asks them to, and they themselves may not have the knowledge of what needs to be done, so they do nothing.
We need to educate them and ask for change.
"if they refuse to do anything" then what?
Keep records, when they come up for re-election which is in 2012, all of them come up then, educate the public on their voting record and their refusal to change what is wrong. You have to give them the chance, because they have the ability and opportunity to do something. When they don't, then we are justified in not allowing them to continue to work for us, and they do work for us, we hire them via the ballot box.
While admire your spirit, the cost of educating the public is enormous. Honestly, how many people would take the time to listen to the record of their local congress rep? The level of voter apathy is very high and the true level of the rep actually giving a shit about the 99% is for all intents and purposes, zero. The time to invest in voter education is after "they refuse to do anything" But now you are talking to voters about what your friendly neighborhood 99% Candidate is doing. Have you read the 99% Declaration? https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/ or this? http://thedeclarationofdesperation.wordpress.com/
Yes, but I still say, we have to try to work with what is in power now. each ows movement member has a congressional member, they could take the time to try to meet with that person when they are in their home office.
I know OWS wants to replace all the Congressional members, that is fine, both things can be done. Work for getting local people on the ballot, but also approach the people who are there now.
If the movement only focuses on getting other people on the ballot to replace the current people in office, if those people do not succeed in getting elected, you are still stuck with whoever is in office right now.
If you have begun to try to educate them and make them do some work for change, something might be achieved. There is a chance, however slim that is.
If you don't do that, nothing changes from the incumbents, then if the people we get on the ballot do not get elected, nothing changes. Then you have an uneducated, multi term incumbent and nothing else. That's the risk of not trying to reach the incumbents.
It's not about being pessimistic, it is using more than one way to try to effect change, covering your bases.
not sure why you are so hell-bent on defending the status quo. The problem is that it's the citizens that are shelling out the most money that get to meet the Rep and a Rep's time is scarce therefore valuable. I say we've been there done that. OWS has been a wake-up call but The Powers That Be (TPTB) are all putting the same thing on their christmas list: The dust-bin of history containing the OWS Movement. They have visions of sugarplums dancing in their heads and at the rate things are going they're not going to be disappointed. There's no time left to pussy-foot around. OWS must move forward right now. The occupation has served it's purpose (read wake-up call, shot across the bow) Having members living in tents in the depths of winter so that the movement can prove something will justifiably discredit OWS. And it's no longer necessary. Declare the occupation over (I like 11/11/11) and declare that the next move is to form the National General Assembly. That's what TPTB don't want to hear. OWS comes out of the occupation "smelling like a rose". The NGA will be a REAL thorn in their comfy seats, with our pesky List Of Grievances. The only thing those folks need to learn is the true legal power of the people and that OWS will meet them at the ballot box. "We Are The 99%" will send chills down their spines every time they hear it. They can't say they were not given adequate chances and warnings.
I'm not hell bent, I just don't want a the military being in charge if OWS takes down the govt. by a revolution. Reform will be a slower change than a revolution. Revolution is more risky. Who's running Egypt? Tantawi. By law they could have held elections within 30-60 days of Mubarak stepping down, but it did not happen that way. The military just took over and stayed there running things. We don't want that in this country.
Take down the government of the United States? roflmfao! The only thing OWS should be working on is petitioning the government for a redress of grievances, their First Amendment right.
Blame the Egyptians, everybody got ideas after watching what happened there. It was even more surprising because their military has been known to be hardliners, who would think they could do that there. I certainly didn't.
why not demand the right to vote on all issues directly by the people. Then we could all vote for each of these 5 ideas. I'm sure the majority agrees with you.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-demand-informed-direct-democracy-online-whos-wit/ openassembly.org
Maybe learn how to spell manifesto first?
thanks for noting the spelling errors-----a take it the theme was over your head