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Until this week, though, $3.3 billion dollars of political spending from 2005 to 2011 was hidden, jammed down deep beneath the sofa cushions of public life. A blockbuster Wall Street Journal report revealed that Big Labor has been filing most of its disclosures with its friends at the Department of Labor (which, due to its mission to produce jobicidal regulations, is about as accurately named as a funeral home called a Department of Life). Unions’ disclosures to the Federal Election Commission, where you would ordinarily seek information about spending on elections, comprise only one-fourth of their total spending on politics.

Read full article here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kylesmith/2012/07/10/if-big-money-in-politics-offends-you-then-you-must-loathe-labor-unions/

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[-] 1 points by throaway (57) 12 years ago

Very diisappointed in the DNC crowd. No justification for unions spending billions (quietly til WSJ brought to light the FULL amount) on Dems? No acknowledgement that Citizens United protects unions, too? No acknowledgement that both parties are fed by the 1%? Oh yeah, think I saw a DNC thread denouncing 'both parties are the same" is a myth.

I just pray this forum has become a refuge for seriously partisan folks and not a true reflection of the thoughts of the OWS folks in the street.

OWS denoinces politics, but unless you are gonna get your 2nd ammendment tools out, politics is all we got. WE need a 3rd party. Not more Democrat shit. Do you REALLY think the Kennedy's care about the less fortunate?

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[-] 1 points by throaway (57) 12 years ago

Don't suppose that has anything to do with Obamacare waivers, do you?

For a special interest group that pushed so hard to enact legislation that weighs on the rest of America, unions seem to be the largest group that want to avoid the very law they helped enact. In fact, according to Friday afternoon’s document dump, the vast majority of individuals receiving special treatment in this latest waiver boondoggle are union workers. This brings the total of unionized ObamaCare waiver recipients to over 50% of the total recipients.

full article on waivers here:

http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2012/01/07/vast-majority-of-obamacare-waivers-go-to-union-workers-in-latest-round/

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[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 12 years ago

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[-] 1 points by throaway (57) 12 years ago

Eliminating corporate personhoold would include labor unions. You do realize this!?

I actually agree that citizens united needs to go. I am able to ignore tv ads, but i know a lot of folks can'tl. Way I see it, it just helps the economy along since people get paid to make these ads. Could say it's a HUGE income redistrution plan. RIch donors > working class ad makers!

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[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 12 years ago

80% of Americans already want to get rid of CU.

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[-] 1 points by throaway (57) 12 years ago

80% of Americans already want to get rid of CU

That doesn't answer the question I posed regarding corporate personhood and labor unions.

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[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 12 years ago

Almost everyone on the amendment "team" expects unions & corps to be treated identically. I agree One of the dozen proposed amendments ( SJR33 ) does not.

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[-] 1 points by throaway (57) 12 years ago

OK! Guess I was confused since all I ever hear about in connection with money in politics is wall street and corporations.

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[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 12 years ago

I would like to blame the evil right wing for the "Lie"
but its reall the simplicity of "corporations are not people" that is so easy to use all of the amendments [except SJR33} say constitutional rights are exclusivly for humans.
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