Forum Post: End SSI For Good
Posted 12 years ago on March 3, 2012, 2:18 p.m. EST by NightShade
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I think they should end SSI, only the physically disabled & the old should receive a government check. I've known people that tell doctors they hear voices in there end but in reality they don't just so they can see a public consular once a month get a prescription of meds they don't take and collect $800+ a month while they sit on there asses don't do anything and cause trouble with other people because they got the free time.
Mean while I struggle to death working to support myself and pay into a system that supports their lazy asses.
I'm talking about these lazy garbage citizens that like to cause trouble with people while they receive their monthly government checks for not doing anything. I don't care how stupid or crazy you are, you can still physically work.
Perhaps if all these SSI government check milkers weren't getting handouts tomorrow, than America would finally wake up to the real issue of poverty, unfair wage balances and workers treatment.
no one can work when there are NO JOBS focus on the real problem and leave the crazy sick old people alone
My brother gets SSI. He's a violent schizophrenic with a criminal record a mile long if he were legally responsible for his crimes. His check goes to the state mental hospital were he is housed to pay for his care and when he is doing well, he works in the community mopping floors in a local restaurant.
Feel better? If you want more of these people to work, offer them jobs. My brother gains a lot of self-esteem from working. He's trying very hard to move up to washing dishes, but is being side-lined by some type of tardive dyskenisia or serious movement disorder and can't work right now.
My blind friend receives SSI. She is a 4 year graduate of a good college and went to a special high school for the blind. Most people don't know she's blind the first time they meet her. She can iron clothes better than I can. Honestly. She can't even find a volunteer position, because all the businesses say she's too much of a legal liability. She's worked so hard to be able to work, but no one will hire her. It's not her fault.
If they end social welfare, they should end corporate welfare too.
A bank bailout is essentially SSI for the rich.
if anything the general populations needs to have more of the money
to create exchange of goods and services
SSI for blind people?
SSI puts out yearly analysis on the subject of fraud. I believe the % is somewhere along 5%... since there are at least 50 million people on SSI currently (for w/e reason)... 5% of 50 million is < 3 million or < 1% of the population is fraudulent the system... if you know at least a 100 people it is probable you know 1 of these people. However, if you are in the southern states (that receive more money than they put into the federal coffers), then you may know more than 1. I have no idea what the true geographical distribution of the fraudsters are.
Sounds like you need to form a union.
Your contract negotiation skills are very lacking.
That's just lazy on your part.
I've known people
is not an argument. You will need to provide a better argument.
I'm confused is it talking about the greedy corrupt "Hearing voices" or regular people hearing the greedy corrupt blowing smoke up their asses?
If the 1st they can afford to see a Dr. and they should.
If the 2nd, well then that's not a delusion the greedy corrupt do that in person, over the airwaves, any way possible, that is them just doing the "same old same old" propaganda pushing. So medical treatment not required - for the regular people.
I'm talking about these lazy garbage citizens that like to cause trouble with people while they receive their monthly government checks for not doing anything. I don't care how stupid or crazy you are, you can still physically work.
Perhaps if all these SSI government check milkers weren't getting handouts tomorrow, than America would finally wake up to the real issue of poverty, unfair wage balances and workers treatment.
Lazy garbage??
WallStreet doesn't need SSI.
That is the funny thing, they don't need it but they get it and would take more.
WallStreet Welfare - there's a crime if you ask me.
That's why I say remove the cap on FICA.
Let the lazy bitches pay.
I thought I could believe in you, Shooz. And now I see you calling workers paying into FICA "Lazy B**s?????" What is up with this, man? Am I missing something, or are you part of the trolls too?? What??
You missed something.
I said remove the cap. Make the rich bitches pay their share.
Remove the cap and you just made a $12000 monthly benefit check for a retired 1%- because SS benefits are formulated by what a person pays in.
Are you really sure you want to do that?
There are already family benefits caps that deal with that, although it could all be renegotiated once the cap is removed.
No, no , no. all benefits received by 1%ers, current SS law states the more you pay, the more you get back in benefits.
Ok, so you suggest we then limit SS benefits so the 1% wont get crazy huge checks... thats a means test and you have now made SS like Welfare.
Oh and we'd have to give up the "Earned Income Tax Credit" which was intended to make up for the fact that SS taxes are regressive. SInce you've removed the cap, SS taxes would be flat.
Nice way to destroy a perfectly good insurance program, thanks but no.
Remove the cap and all of that can be negotiated.
All of it.
Whoa, thanks man, I'm seriously sorry here, I was afraid you were one of the trolls. I swear I'm starting to get paranoid here, I didn't know who was trustworthy anymore. I spend some time on neo-con type sites, and I got so used to presuming all the people on the site were arrogant rich bigoted haters of the poor before I talked to them. I'm glad to know you are on team Truth! Keep up the good work!
It's just a silly forum, no need for paranoia.
Except for those that think we all belong to the CIA.
Go get 'em Juan.
What?!! You, you, you mean we don't belong to the CIA?
Citizens (are) Intelligent Association.
Means testing, remove the cap and hire more investigators to rid the system of the scum. Union and non Union have scum that milk the system. By scum I don't leave out the doctors and lawyers who help this fraud.
You left out the real, major scum, the corporations who scam both government and the people every day, to the tune of billons of dollars. Humm . . .
I did indeed!!! CNA was my demise.....for all the commitments we can break ;)
For some of these corporations.
SS fraud is a way of life, and that would include the current Governor of Florida.............and that's just sad.
Yes it is, and many are proud they are milking the system. And at times it may even get you a seat in Government.
Of yeah, Shooz Walmart is just the same up here in NY, all they do is hire to SSI Scum that work part time 20 hours and under a week so Walmart doesn't have to payout benefits to more full time workers. If these people can work 15 or 20 hour work weeks than they don't need no freaking Government disabled assistance.
I know one girl that works at Walmart, perfectly healthy except she has a few screws loose in the head, she makes about $1,100 a month on SSI. $300 for food stamps, $400 in heap, and $350 a month working part time, plus she has a free government phone add that shit up. While I myself as a man make a little under $900 a month working full time at a job and I can't receive benefits because apparently I make too much at my job nor do I have a doctors slip that says I'm fraudulently disabled.
Sounds to me like you need to join, or form a union.
They have much better negotiating skills than you do.
You're just bitching about what you perceive someone else having.
Better yet - make them pay for the economic clean-up. Like BP is supposed to be doing for the gulf spill.
I think they already made us pay for that.
All they pay for is their cocaine, whores, DMT, scotch, and champagne.
Oooops, they made us pay for that too.
See? Time to send a bill. Letem know that it is not all fun and games.
It's just talking to hear itself talk. I vote for number two.
Most of what you tout and support is indeed number two.
So says the troll with 50 other identities. You're fun. Wanna play, douche bag?
I'd say you'd be qualified to know when a person may have 50+ ID's.
I'm 100% certain you have at least 75.
Thou doth protest too much.
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.....you're slipping. Are you hungover or something?
Just stand in the line with your hand out waiting for working people to fill it full of birth control pills for your sorry ass.
Everyone knows screwing a watermelon, busted in half, would be more gratifying.
You know, I think I have been giving you too much credit. You really, really are a dumbass. LOL.
Your fat-assed welfare-sucking witch doctor momma.
Yep. Definitely giving you too much credit. You're as dumb as they come. Of course, I should know better than to expect anything from a little Koch whore. :D
I can't wait until you're in the unemployment line.
Nope, I'm a HUGE Koch WHORE, just like you!
Oh, I don't like the Koch heads. That's your game. LOL @ you being out of a job!!!!
Sistah, as long as there are Kochs to suck, you and I will never be out of a job!
You taught all of us, over at the crack haus, very well.
Your ability to breathe through your reptilian eyes while having your fat jowls stuffed with ten day old pork is still celebrated and spoken of fondly amongst the 10 buck Ho Union Members!
LOL. Scum bag. You still suck! Nice try though. LOL @ you standing in the unemployment line.
I only have one name and this is it, I've been posting on and off for 6 months, when did you come here, oh thats right when you thought it was cool to come here. douche bag
Oh, look........it wants to play because it can't provide a solid argument. How cute.
Maybe you should stop collecting checks and get a job. Your not sick.
I have a job. :D
You on the other hand.........get paid to troll.
Is your job a nark for the government?
Nope. :D
yes, what are you like 5?
No, douche bag. I am not five. Are you a high school drop out? Must be. You only see the type of argument that you are attempting to make from those that are under educated.
Think we should stop feeding this troll post now that the truth has been verified/supported?
You mean leave the worthless troll that must have been acquired at a discounted price off of Craig's list alone? Hmmmm.....
Well I was just thinking it might die a quiet death.
One could hope.
It would be pure karma if the toxic shit they spewed did kill them.
They will get kicked to the curb soon enough. Po' broke and alone. They are just disposable tools.
Sad thing is they probably already know this, but still do it anyway.
When is a paycheck not just a paycheck. When it is voluntary euthanasia?
Well, see and that is the problem with the whole thing. They are actively working against themselves. It must take a lot of work to get up and look in the mirror every morning. I don't know how it is that they can reconcile their slimy disgusting filthy selves with all of this.
You think they all drink pepto instead of water due to stress ulcers?
Well...........they have to be drinking something. They probably wouldn't have all of these problems if they put the crack pipe down every now and then.
You know?
I take back what I asked earlier.
This is stress relieving, very therapeutic.
Please continue.
I mean a troll should have some sort of redeeming social value.
Even if it is unintended.
LOL. It is stress relieving but they are rather boring. They don't have anything new to offer.
Yes.
1 points by GirlFriday (3261) 1 minute ago
Oh, yeah! You?
Still it is nice in these stressful times to be able to share an easy laugh.
1 points by GirlFriday (3261) 1 minute ago
LOL. It is stress relieving but they are rather boring. They don't have anything new to offer. ↥like ↧dislike permalink
Yes, it is. :D
Hey Girl, having a good day?
1 points by GirlFriday (3261) 0 minutes ago
Yes, it is. :D
Oh, yeah! You?
I'm not a troll dumbass
What you mean your just anti-social?
I think that still qualifies.
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Hey, I really like that name nightshade. It really says it all; you're just poison. That's what you and all your ilk are, just a poison in the body politic. I'm sure that poison spreads to your families as well, and infects your community. You create a black hole that sucks everything positive out of the atmosphere until finally you choke on it yourselves.
Enjoy.
I know many people who collect SSD/SSI because they went to a lawyer who sent them to a "doctor" and now work everyday and also collect these benefits. Mean while others who are truly disabled that do not scam the system suffer.
I'm disabled, but because I have a lot skills and talents I've been able to switch careers to something I can do (I have to work from home). Many people are not so lucky. I also have had my family to support me as I switched. Without family support, I certainly would have had to file disability and then maybe try to start up my home businesses on government money.
SSI is basically always denied, so you have to get a lawyer. They denied my brother I was talking about above while he was an in-patient in the state mental hospital. What other evidence should be needed? My friend was a fireman for 30 years and burning beam fell on him and broke his back. He has a rod in his back and the condition is causing him to lose mobility and get arthritis. He lost his workman's comp due to one doctors stupid note in a file, was then rejected SSI and now has a lawyer to get both. Getting a lawyer has nothing to do with scamming the system. The system is broken.
I have five herniated disks DDD, stenosis and arthritis at 46 years old. I was harassed and lied to by my lawyer who I later found out that he worked for the insurance company prior to "representing" workers. I was hurt on the job and the insurance company harassed my neighbors and I. My neighbors took the insurance company's side and to this day I'm treated like a criminal even though I went through two back surgeries and need more.
I know people who claim to be injured go to a lawyer which in turn "recommends" a doctor. Those people now collect and work off the books working construction. Fraud is fraud and it hurts those who are truly injured. Never mind being under treated for my pain since some people use pain meds to get high and doctors are too scared to help those in pain.